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Old 07-01-2009, 09:17 PM   #120
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I have a question. Except for performance, and the hood, does anyone know, or have an idea of what other kind of exterior or interior changes will be made?
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:23 AM   #121
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I can give you weight on the basis of performance, since once you do get into supercar range the weights are up there. Stock, no the weight is too much, but if you're looking at it as a platform for building a supercar, then I will grant you your points.

Now aside from performance, GM still has to think about CAFE, and the only way to do that and retain performance is to shrink power and weight to maintain power to weight ratios.

The other part of the weight issue is the perception of size. For whatever reason, while the G8 seems to shrink around you in turns, the Camaro feels like its growing larger. Make all the numbers you want, but if you can't place the apex, you're still at a liability. I don't think that's anything they can fix on the Z28. It will have to come with the next generation, when the inevitably shrink and de-power the car.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:27 AM   #122
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The other part of the weight issue is the perception of size. For whatever reason, while the G8 seems to shrink around you in turns, the Camaro feels like its growing larger. Make all the numbers you want, but if you can't place the apex, you're still at a liability.
Now you are on my turf. When we are done Pedderising your car you'll be able to hit apexes with a 2010 Camaro that feels 1,000 pounds lighter. The car will track and turn-in at levels that will radically alter your opinion. The difference in perspective is that I have already driven a dialed in 5th Gen. We have to get you into a fully Pedderised 5th Gen.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:43 PM   #123
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:23 AM   #124
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:13 PM   #125
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The 500 hp Genesis doesn't surprise me. Even the 4-bangers are related to the Evo motor. It shouldn't be too difficult to extract that power out of them.

JusticePete, I'm going back and forth over the direction I want to go with my Camaro. Right now, I'll probably get a convertible as a weekend cruiser, and so the weight/suspension won't be all that important to me. I'm still considering getting a coupe for both DD and weekend fun duties (mainly depends on gas prices & work travel demands) and if that's the case, a Pedders suspension is mod #1.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:59 PM   #126
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There are plenty of Genisis/heavy Camaro/fill in the blank, threads out there. Take that conversation there please.

Back on track.

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Old 07-06-2009, 12:58 AM   #127
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The Z28 specs are huge and the concept pics are sick...however; I think I will just opt for the SS and gleefully watch the Z28 trump the Stang from the side lines..if/when it comes out the price will undoubtly marginalize a lot of perspective buyers...
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:06 AM   #128
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but really z28s are lighter, better suspension, better for road courses and have a smaller/higher reving engine.
SS=Straigh Line Beast
Z28=Road Course beast
in what year that does not apply to 4th gens
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:53 PM   #129
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This is how I would want my Z28 to look just like in the pic below!
If I don't get a Camaro within the next year I will wait for this bad boy, silver is amazing!!!!



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Old 08-18-2009, 04:12 AM   #130
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I do not know how anyone with a brain could call Transformers 2 a flop maybe it could have been a little less convoluted but the fact is it has done 400 MILLION in the USA that is about 100 million more than Star Trek or Harry Potter or UP the next three highest grossing films in fact it is like 7th all time and could end up 6th when all is said and done. For someone to say its a flop is lets just say not very bright add to that that Camaro sales in the two months its been out as been better than mustang need I say more.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:18 AM   #131
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On the Z28, I hope it does come out and looks like Bumblebee in part 2 that is a lot more stunning than the current SS and lets hope for more power would love the CTS-V 556hp motor and if they feel that is too low mileage at least put direct injection and get the LS3 power to at least 475hp minimum and less weight at least 150-250 pounds and no stupid rev limiter.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:35 PM   #132
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #133
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:57 PM   #134
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its not that bad of a necro... only a month or two old. and half the posts are bickering over whether TF2 was a flop or not....lo
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its not that bad of a necro... only a month or two old. and half the posts are bickering over whether TF2 was a flop or not....lo
Yeah it didn't even crack 2 months yet, so its borderline, but I thought a little ribbing couldn't hurt. And it does seem like any thread mentioning Z28 possibilities is immediately hashed out.
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