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Old 04-16-2013, 08:41 AM   #15
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Dodge has a long way to go. I had a 2010 Challenger SRT-8. For an everyday driver, it was a great car. As far as a performance car, it left a lot to be desired. Still, I hope Dodge makes some significant improvements to the Challenger.
They already many large improvement since 2010. Hell the 2011 is far better and every year they just keep getting better. If they end up matching performance with GM and Ford they will have the best car of the bunch.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:05 AM   #16
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I was told this is the last year for the Challenger
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:06 AM   #17
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They already many large improvement since 2010. Hell the 2011 is far better and every year they just keep getting better. If they end up matching performance with GM and Ford they will have the best car of the bunch.
They have the best looking car of the bunch
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:37 AM   #18
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New model SRT8s are promising. My 2010 Challenger SRT8 was great but once the Camaro was released I jumped. Interested to see what changes they make.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:38 AM   #19
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Just wondering if the guys @ GM are having a chuckle over this announcement
Doubt it, Dodges are generally DD cars. Z/28 isn't practical for most.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:53 AM   #20
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Dodge Mulling Camaro Z/28 Rival, Barracuda Reportedly Delayed
The unveiling of the Camaro Z/28, based on the latest incarnation of Chevrolet's muscle car, seems to have gotten Chrysler officials thinking. Their Dodge Challenger is currently far too heavy, and they feel that it can't compete with the more modern bow-tie sports car, or the much-improved latest Ford Mustang.
However, according to MotorTrend, a Z/28-challenger may be on its way, but it will require a lot of work on Chrysler's side, in order to make it happen, and to be competitive.

It is suggested that the track-focused Challenger would have to lose a lot of weight, gain better brakes and stiffer springs, as well as an improved version of the 6.4-liter 392 Hemi V8, which currently makes 470 hp and 470 pound-feet (636 Nm). Power should be up, and if it still isn't enough, there's always the 8.4-liter V10, and if they were to put that under the bonnet of the Challenger, it would be turned into a much more unique proposition, and probably be priced above its rivals.

The magazine states, however, that chances of getting the V10 are very slim.

In addition, if they are to keep the same naming philosophy that they have with the Viper, then this more focused machine would be called the Challenger TA, which stands for Time Attack. Production won't stop at 33 units like they are doing with the Viper, though, and while it will carve itself a niche within a niche, it is probably the way to go for Dodge and Chrysler, if they don’t want to be left too far behind the muscle-car pack.

There is also another option of basing this TA model on the replacement for the current Challenger, rumored to resurrect the Barracuda nameplate. Still, according SRT boss Ralph Gilles, the development of the new Barracuda, is still a few years away. The repost says it may very well share its platform with Alfa's upcoming RWD 5-Series-challenger, and go on sale around the same time as that car – whenever that may be…
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Yes, here's the picture of it that came out last week. Oh and they have a longgggggggggg way to go. But it does look good.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:58 AM   #22
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Anything is possible with Dodge.

Don't count the Challenger out just because it bigger and heavier than the Camaro anf Mustang.

History has proven time and time again that bigger is sometimes better.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:07 AM   #23
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:11 AM   #24
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Remember, the ZL1 is over 4000 pounds
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:21 AM   #25
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Yes, but it's not better because it's bigger. It's the technology. And Dodge has never really been that high on tech. They're more brutish.
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The only way I see Dodge having ANY chance to compete is to seriously take some weight out their current Challenger chassis platform or shove a 600+hp powertrain in it. Neither seems possible without pricing itself out the pony car market!

I've met Ralph Gilles a few times at a few Mopar events and he and his crew at SRT want a pony car that'll be on par or better than the ZL1 and Z28. Maybe pony car history will repeat itself like back in the late 60's and early 70's when Dodge came late to pony car market with the Challenger. I hope by 2015 or 16 the Dodge boys will have something wicked for us to play with!
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Yes, but it's not better because it's bigger. It's the technology. And Dodge has never really been that high on tech. They're more brutish.
I remember seeing a Top Gear episode where they compared the ZR1 to a Viper ACR. They described both as brute American cars, but the ACR was so impossible to control that they said they'd rather drive the ZR1. Right now, the only thing keeping the 392 under control is the weight. I don't see Dodge building a supercar out of the Challenger that can be taken seriously until they get their act together with technology.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:41 PM   #28
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Considering the Z/28 is a whole 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 and the Challenger cant touch the ZL1 I highly doubt this is going to happen. But hey, let em try
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