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Old 02-19-2013, 10:15 PM   #141
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So... what's the difference between SC and ST/TT ? Also who has the best kit out there for increasing the power and performance of the V6? I hear IPF,Gretchen,Rx, etc.. ? O_O Need some clarity!
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:22 PM   #142
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So... what's the difference between SC and ST/TT ? Also who has the best kit out there for increasing the power and performance of the V6? I hear IPF,Gretchen,Rx, etc.. ? O_O Need some clarity!
The difference in Supercharger, Single Turbo, and Twin Turbo is basically in how they make their power. Turbos make their power by being fed from exhaust gases while Superchargers are powered off a belt driven by the engine.

Currently, the only superchargers available are centrifugal superchargers which make boost as rpms increase so you'd be making peak boost at higher rpms. Turbos make boost as soon as it spools up.

The Superchargers available are the ones by RX and IPF. They pretty much all make the same amount of power.

The difference between turbo and supercharger is that turbos will produce more torque than the supercharger solution we have right now.

Since you own a 2011, it really won't matter what option you choose because they will all pretty much make the same amount of power since we have fueling issues. The turbos will produce more torque though. You'll be at about 400hp 400 tq with turbos and 400 hp 350 tq with a supercharger. Those are rough figures so don't flame me if I'm a little off.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:25 AM   #143
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The difference in Supercharger, Single Turbo, and Twin Turbo is basically in how they make their power. Turbos make their power by being fed from exhaust gases while Superchargers are powered off a belt driven by the engine.

Currently, the only superchargers available are centrifugal superchargers which make boost as rpms increase so you'd be making peak boost at higher rpms. Turbos make boost as soon as it spools up.

The Superchargers available are the ones by RX and IPF. They pretty much all make the same amount of power.

The difference between turbo and supercharger is that turbos will produce more torque than the supercharger solution we have right now.

Since you own a 2011, it really won't matter what option you choose because they will all pretty much make the same amount of power since we have fueling issues. The turbos will produce more torque though. You'll be at about 400hp 400 tq with turbos and 400 hp 350 tq with a supercharger. Those are rough figures so don't flame me if I'm a little off.
+1 what he said is it.

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Old 02-20-2013, 09:28 AM   #144
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Summed up well LS.

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:29 AM   #145
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So how much do these kits all range from ? 5-7grand max ? obv TT being most expensive
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:35 AM   #146
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W/23, you're in the ballpark.

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:32 PM   #147
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JohnnyB, in your opinion now that you have the IPF SC, would you consider suspension and clutch upgrades as necessary in addition to the SC, or merely nice additions if you have the extra money?
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:02 PM   #148
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I'll replace the clutch after I smoke this one. Not sure how long this one will hold up.

My next move has to be suspension. With so much more power on tap, it makes sense to get things tightened up. I'm on board with the Pedders approach. Take care of basic underpinnings, bushings first, sway bars last, don't use a strut bar.

My corner approach speeds have placed this next upgrade squarely in front of my attention. Brakes are fine for now, since I don't track the car I'm not bothered by possible brake fade, and I haven't seen it crop up yet. The stock brakes work nearly as good as the Brembos until they get hot.

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Old 02-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #149
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I would agree w/johnyb.....clutch is going to give up first.

Here are some pics from the latest RX SC build...AWD CTS Caddy 3.6L DI.

The AWD is amazing....NO traction issues on launch. Amazing cars:

Did our heads and stall converter as well as new timing chain set.


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Old 04-16-2013, 02:50 PM   #150
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This shit is sick.

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Old 04-16-2013, 06:59 PM   #151
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:13 PM   #152
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:41 PM   #153
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This shit is sick.

dam dude he went through those soooo quickly its insane...

I was laughin when he just kept driving hahaha
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:53 PM   #154
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I saw that car in the article in Camaro Now magazine! That build is insane!
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