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Old 04-17-2013, 08:14 AM   #71
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Sounds good.does not look like it is moving that fast
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #72
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...Chevy said it's 3 seconds faster at Milford than the ZL1....how much is it going to shatter the ZL1 time at the Ring? By quite a bit I surmise, fasten your seat belts gentlemen.....
Did they said Milford? I don't think they did actualy. Where did you read that?
They only said 3 seconds faster, this might be the tyrack they are talking about.
The Z/28 could be only 3 seconds faster then the ZL1 at the Nurburgring!
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:59 AM   #73
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7:41 was an incredible time. No way the Z/28 beats this by 3 seconds on the ring, but I sure hope it does.
It will beat it by a lot more than 3 seconds. Remember the lbs/hp ratio will be very close to the ZL1. The tires alone will give it close to a 10 second advantage, before you even begin to factor in the new suspension and brakes.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:04 AM   #74
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DId they said Milford? I don't think they did actualy. Where did you read that?
They only said 3 seconds faster, this might be the tyrack they are talking about.
The Z/28 could be only 3 seconds faster then the ZL1 at the Nurburgring!
In an article from the The Detroit News, dated March 28, 2013.....

""New York — General Motors Co. pulled off a surprise Wednesday at the New York International Auto Show by rolling out a new version of the legendary Camaro Z/28 after a decade's absence
GM North America President Mark Reuss was all smiles as the white muscle car with black rear spoiler was driven on stage to applause and cheers from automotive journalists.
"This is for all of us who want a Camaro that's absolutely built for the track," Reuss said. "Dubbed code-word 'HP' inside of GM, this is something we have longed to do and now we have done it."
Reuss said GM will begin building the Z/28 this fall for testing. It's expected to generate about 500 horsepower and get 470 foot-pounds of torque.
Pricing isn't available yet, but it will be the most expensive Camaro offered, Reuss said. Production likely will be somewhat limited, but Reuss said, "We'll make as many as people want."
The new Z/28 shows GM is healthy financially and is able to again make cars like this.
"This won't be the highest-volume car we do obviously," Reuss told reporters after the reveal. "But these kind of cars, you have to be able to be a car company that can do a few of these here and there to make sure everybody knows what this brand is, and that it's alive and well. This is the kind of stuff ... it gets everybody crazy excited."
In lap testing done so far, the Camaro Z/28 is three seconds faster than the Camaro ZL1, Reuss said.
Reuss said GM built a mule Camaro Z/28 about two years ago at the Milford Proving Grounds.
"I took my boss for a ride in the car and I said, 'We want this car badly,'" he said referring to GM CEO Dan Akerson."


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Old 04-17-2013, 10:02 AM   #75
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In an article from the The Detroit News, dated March 28, 2013.....

"[I]"In lap testing done so far, the Camaro Z/28 is three seconds faster than the Camaro ZL1, Reuss said.
Reuss said GM built a mule Camaro Z/28 about two years ago at the Milford Proving Grounds.
"I took my boss for a ride in the car and I said, 'We want this car badly,'" he said referring to GM CEO Dan Akerson."

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2QjHFXY7F
Thank you for digging up the article and quotes!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't mean the two comments are linked together necessarily, does it?
(Since this lap testing video was shot not too long ago and the original Mule was made 2 years ago.)

Anyway, I would prefer a 3 sec faster at the Milford ground then at the Northcliffe, this would mean less then 7:30 at the Ring... yeah!
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:16 AM   #76
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I don't think it's linear like that.

It depends on how the track favors the advantage each car has. Would the Z/28's better handling, braking and tire help more at the Ring or would the ZL1's better power?
Don't forget gearing.
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Notice how it is not doing the pogo stick motion through the banked turn that the SS prototype did in 2008. Much better control.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:54 AM   #78
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...Personally, I sort of hope the Z/28 doesn't out-do the ZL-1 on "every" track...

...Gotta give some props to the King-Kong of the streets, super-charged muscle and all the development that went into the ZL-1 somewhere in the mix...
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:55 AM   #79
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That car sounds Bad ASS!!!!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:42 PM   #80
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Here's some additional shots of the almighty Z/28 on track in Germany. Enjoy!

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/2/inde...round-the-ring
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:46 PM   #81
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...Someone please tell me that there's a legitamate reason for that "paint job"...lol...
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:57 PM   #82
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...Someone please tell me that there's a legitamate reason for that "paint job"...lol...
It's groovy man! Dig it! (camouflage wrapped, many mfg's do this exact thing))

Anyone else see a rollbar in there?
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:03 PM   #83
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...Someone please tell me that there's a legitamate reason for that "paint job"...lol...
...actually it's a wrap, but I see your point! Woooooh my eyes..., don't stare at those closeups too long, you'll see the imbedded picture in picture if you relax your eyes...LOL.....reminds me of this...


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Old 04-17-2013, 02:04 PM   #84
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It's groovy man! Dig it! (camouflage wrapped, many mfg's do this exact thing))

Anyone else see a rollbar in there?
Good eyes! Looks like a rear roll bar with cross-bracing, not a full cage. Hope they offer that as an option!
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