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Old 04-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #18
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This is Edmunds. I didn't expect any more or less from them and I don't race magazine articles.

I didn't buy (or) order the 1LE because I care what the people that read Edmunds think of me or my car. I know what it can do and what it will do for me!

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Old 04-18-2013, 05:28 PM   #19
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For me these are the 2 most important statements that I've hear about the Camaro SS.

The first one made me think about upgrading the suspension and dynamics of the car with the 1LE track pack and the second one confirmed that I made the right choice waiting 3 years to do it GM Performance Parts.

Quote: Randy Posbt from The 2009 Car&Driver best Driver’s car Laguna Seca Hot lap.
" Understeer! frustrating understeer. When I got done with my hot laps, I didn't want to drive it anymore. There is hope, potential is what I see here. I just think they've been too conservative at Chevrolet with the handling setup. "

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...#ixzz2QqozMJVB

Quote: Randy Posbt from 2013 Ignition Episode: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE: Best Handling Camaro Ever!
"The Camaro is definitely at home on the race track. Minimal body roll, well controlled for what is essentially a street car. It behave very well as a race car. I’d race this Camaro right now; Frankly. This is the best balanced Camaro yet! "
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-chevr...on-310955.html
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:36 PM   #20
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Lots of complaining going on about the "negative review"... but those results basically reflect about all the vast majority of owners will be able to achieve.

You want Randy Pobst to put up some handling numbers? Why? You will never be able to duplicate them.

Maybe we could get Evan Smith (if he would actually drive a Camaro) to put up some hero 1/4 mile times that NOBODY will be able to match. They'll look great on paper, though.

I don't know who that test driver is, but he is probably better than most of us. I think those numbers are a pretty accurate representation of what 90% of owners can expect out of the car.

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:24 PM   #21
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The 2013 Chevy Camaro 1LE was born from complaints from only 2 percent of Camaro drivers...

I wonder how they got that info?
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #22
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Lots of complaining going on about the "negative review"... but those results basically reflect about all the vast majority of owners will be able to achieve.

You want Randy Pobst to put up some handling numbers? Why? You will never be able to duplicate them.

Maybe we could get Evan Smith (if he would actually drive a Camaro) to put up some hero 1/4 mile times that NOBODY will be able to match. They'll look great on paper, though.

I don't know who that test driver is, but he is probably better than most of us. I think those numbers are a pretty accurate representation of what 90% of owners can expect out of the car.
Understandable but they should at least be able to find a driver that can outdrive the traction control and stabilitrak. They most likely tried it with the nannys off and couldn't get better numbers.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #23
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Understandable but they should at least be able to find a driver that can outdrive the traction control and stabilitrak. They most likely tried it with the nannys off and couldn't get better numbers.
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Lots of complaining going on about the "negative review"... but those results basically reflect about all the vast majority of owners will be able to achieve.

You want Randy Pobst to put up some handling numbers? Why? You will never be able to duplicate them.

Maybe we could get Evan Smith (if he would actually drive a Camaro) to put up some hero 1/4 mile times that NOBODY will be able to match. They'll look great on paper, though.

I don't know who that test driver is, but he is probably better than most of us. I think those numbers are a pretty accurate representation of what 90% of owners can expect out of the car.
This quarter mile test was not done on a semi prepped drag strip but on the front straightaway at Roebling Roads road course on a cool day for a little comparison to other runs that we know to be better in the 1LE. But we also must take into consideration that this car might be a little tight from not be broken in yet along with tires that perform much better on warmer days.

Motorweek has in the past put up some impressive numbers for their test Camaro's especially SLP tuner cars but they used the drag strip in Maryland for all of their numbers gathering tests when weather permitted and Roebling Roads near Savannah, Ga for road course work.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:31 PM   #24
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Understandable but they should at least be able to find a driver that can outdrive the traction control and stabilitrak. They most likely tried it with the nannys off and couldn't get better numbers.
The times posted are faster with TC off (as noted in the article). Or am I missing something?
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:22 AM   #25
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Going to Edmunds.com for performance car reviews is like going to church for a strip tease. You just don't do it.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:33 AM   #26
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The review was short and to the point, but I thought it was fine.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:31 PM   #27
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Edmunds always has higher 0-60 and quarter times..I find there information to be invalid. I base this off the other many reviews that continually show different and better results...
This is not just the 1LE , they do this with every car. THERE FRAUDS or they just can't Drive..
Maybe they can learn from this guy!!!

http://youtu.be/vYiFiWn38jw
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:39 PM   #28
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Poorer measured results can be blamed at least in part on the venue at which the car was tested. A few hundredths difference in lateral-g or a mph or two in the slalom is not unusual.

I don't think the test driver ever got fully familiar with the car, given his repeated mention of visibility as a handicap.


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