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Old 04-19-2013, 02:15 PM   #155
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Thats the part I find ironic as well.

The 69 ZL-1 Had a hand built 427, and was a 1/4 missile, is now powered by supercharged small block and is a great track car.

The Z/28 now gets the hand assembled 427 so it can be the track star.

I know why they used the LS7 for the Z/28, it was the best high revving small block they had but I just find the above ironic in a humorous way lol
Agreed that the ls7 is the ideal z28 engine. Should have been gen 6 though with 600 to 800 less lbs. Probably coming soon...2016...
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:18 PM   #156
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As for the corner speed argument, I did address that . My racing experience show that vehicles that carried more corner speed dominated, until a more powerful(torque) vehicle got a straight or sweeper to stretch its legs.
well, you are talking about bikes though, much different scenario. and the ZL1 doesnt have much of a power advantage like i've said a couple times before now.

we could go on and on back and forth... let's just wait and see lol.
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Did you know that the ZL1 has parts on it labeled Z28. They did have it right. Then hesitated.
Chevy hesitated rightly because the Z/28 by heritage was a naturally aspirated car with modest amenities.

It is the end decision that raises questions with me. While its not a perfect world, and whereas both cars are fantastic, I'm still left with a few more things desired.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:24 PM   #158
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well, you are talking about bikes though, much different scenario. and the ZL1 doesnt have much of a power advantage like i've said a couple times before now.

we could go on and on back and forth... let's just wait and see lol.
True. True. We are all speculating. I really wish they would tell everyone how it did on the ring. It was obviously there. He he. I remember the gt500 going there recently and the ford neglected to advertise their time. Hehehe
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3040. 2006. Change exhaust and remove cats, less than 3000 lbs and 540 hp
source?

i just did a quick search on an 06 z06.

3147 lbs (motortrend)

3180 lbs (Wikipedia)

2013 - 3199 lbs (autoweek)


oh my how we have derailed this thread...
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Chevy hesitated rightly because the Z/28 by heritage was a naturally aspirated car with modest amenities.

It is the end decision that raises questions with me. While its not a perfect world, and whereas both cars are fantastic, I'm still left with a few more things desired.
Oh you're not nearly alone in this one! The Z/28 guys want to haggle about how they made it the ultimate camaro and that ppl are pissed with the way GM handled things, but ill bet many here would choose a drag strip monster over a Z/28 if it was made. Everyone I know in my state that race, it's at the strip. So why the hell would I want a track star? All I wanted was a stripped out street legal drag strip muscle beast naturally aspirated a step above the SS. If I felt the need, then I would add the supercharger, twin turbos or bottle.
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source?

i just did a quick search on an 06 z06.

3147 lbs (motortrend)

3180 lbs (Wikipedia)

2013 - 3199 lbs (autoweek)


oh my how we have derailed this thread...

Totally derailed.

Gotta find my source. I think it was a gm press number . Prolly dry. No gas.
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but ill bet many here would choose a drag strip monster over a Z/28 if it was made.
Not in this section.... There is a reason us Z/28 guys hang out in the Z/28 section. We like to turn.....


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Not in this section.... There is a reason us Z/28 guys hang out in the Z/28 section. We like to turn.....


Lol yea yea I know that, I was talking about the forum in general. I drove a few nails in complaints on the Z/28, but it wasn't to put the heritage or the car itself down. It was because I wanted a camaro that beat a GT500 down the straight from the factory stripped down, street legal. GM has yet to do it. The American muscle car (camaro in particular)was a strip first, with ONE specialized car for the track. What do we have? 3 actually. A 1LE, ZL-1 AND a Z/28. Where's the street legal street racer? That's part of FAIL that I see and GM has yet to give us an answer after 4yrs.
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Not in this section.... There is a reason us Z/28 guys hang out in the Z/28 section. We like to turn.....


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As has been said before: straights are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.
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hehehe

As has been said before: straights are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.
Well where's our straight fast car? Not one street legal camaro out there is a beast on the straight. The SS? Mustang 5.0 got it. The challenger got it the supposedly ZL-1? GT500 all day long.
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As has been said before: straights are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.


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It was because I wanted a camaro that beat a GT500 down the straight from the factory stripped down, street legal. GM has yet to do it.
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Well where's our straight fast car? Not one street legal camaro out there is a beast on the straight. The SS? Mustang 5.0 got it. The challenger got it the supposedly ZL-1? GT500 all day long.
Good question! We all know GM listens to us... Make a non negative thread about it in the general section. Get enough responses and you may just get your car.....
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Good question! We all know GM listens to us... Make a non negative thread about it in the general section. Get enough responses and you may just get your car.....
Can you give me some popcorn please? I could use a snack. What kind are you eating right now?

Btw, how is what I've said negative? Isn't what I've stated true?
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Oh you're not nearly alone in this one! The Z/28 guys want to haggle about how they made it the ultimate camaro and that ppl are pissed with the way GM handled things, but ill bet many here would choose a drag strip monster over a Z/28 if it was made. Everyone I know in my state that race, it's at the strip. So why the hell would I want a track star? All I wanted was a stripped out street legal drag strip muscle beast naturally aspirated a step above the SS. If I felt the need, then I would add the supercharger, twin turbos or bottle.
The funny thing is...is that despite the confusion, if everything remains the same I will probably try to get a zl1. As imperfect as these cars are, its my hunch that in a few short years both of these cars will be a distant memory.

But, yes I'd bet given a chance we'd all take a shot at having the ultimate street screamer. That's what got me started looking at the mega hp 5th gens, starting with the SLP's.
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