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Old 03-31-2013, 03:32 PM   #57
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I think a 1LE LS7 would have been a wonderful street machine.........probably more streetable than the zl1 (no heat issues)......The trouble with that is the target market......zl1 targets the gt500.........coming out with ANOTHER HP camaro that would be slower in all dressed form than the zl1 makes no sense......as Scott said, the zl1 was actually the z28 but things got complicated..........people are really arguing over a badge.........want a HP street machine?........get a zl1
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #58
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Stirring the nest,

for $60K we need this as the engine code:

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Old 04-03-2013, 04:00 PM   #59
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So would I...but a Gen-6 (-300lb vs. current 1LE) LT1-powered version will be the answer for us very patient folks...
thank you for reminding us, the LT1 is coming once the Corvette test-bed is satisfied.

Maybe 3400lb LT1 Camaros will be rumbling for 2015: ~450hp/tq

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Old 04-04-2013, 03:41 AM   #60
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thank you for reminding us, the LT1 is coming once the Corvette test-bed is satisfied.

Maybe 3650lb LT1 Camaros will be rumbling for 2016 MY: ~450hp/tq

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:31 AM   #61
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thank you for reminding us, the LT1 is coming once the Corvette test-bed is satisfied.

Maybe 3400lb LT1 Camaros will be rumbling for 2015: ~450hp/tq

Gm is experimenting with a 6 cylinder twin turbo for the c7 zr1 . Supposoly debuting at the 2014 auto show in Los Angeles . So who knows what to expect in the generation 6 camaro . Lt1's mayb the last of a dieing breed
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:42 PM   #62
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Gm would not invest millions ans millions in an engine that doesnt stay for at least 10years...The Camaro SS 2016 will have the LT1.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:26 PM   #63
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Gm is experimenting with a 6 cylinder twin turbo for the c7 zr1 . Supposoly debuting at the 2014 auto show in Los Angeles . So who knows what to expect in the generation 6 camaro . Lt1's mayb the last of a dieing breed
V6? I don't think so for a ZR1. Unless you had some huge displacement, 420 was pretty awesome in the TT 3.6L GM just announced. So there won't be any 6 cyclinder with any turbos or superchargers that will rival the LT1 let alone be enough for a ZR1 to go up against the Fiat.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:11 PM   #64
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Gm would not invest millions ans millions in an engine that doesnt stay for at least 10years...The Camaro SS 2016 will have the LT1.
I believe you're right in this. THough the LT1 "might" be used for the 6th gen Z/28 as it produces the same amount of torque as an LS7 under 4000 rpms. I may wait to see what a 6th gen looks like before I pull the trigger. Idk. I was hoping we could get a non track packed car with around 500HP in the 5th Gen. I know Im wishing on it and GM wont make one. Hopefully this 6th Gen will look as good as ours now.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:19 PM   #65
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe GM has to do a full emissions, safety, crash certification process for every engine/car combo they produce. Which is seriously time-consuming and expensive. It's not like the old days where you could order the combo you wanted and they could build it (wish it was like that still). Dropping an LS7 into a 1LE just doesn't make economic sense when you consider they're already at the end of the 5th gen run and are gearing up for the 6th gen.

It works to make a new model like the Z/28 which sets the wheels-in-motion (no pun intended) for this category of car in the 6th gen. That puts in place the development team, the department, the budget and all the necessary corporate mechanisms to have this car become dominant in racing. Production cars that are dominant in racing sell street cars.

I find it HIGHLY interesting that Dodge has already declared they're working on a direct competitor to the Z/28. You KNOW that Ford isn't just sitting there watching all this and doing nothing. Do I detect the first breezes of a new manufacturer's championship series in the near future? I don't think the timing of all this is a coincidence. We are in very interesting times for auto enthusiasts.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #66
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe GM has to do a full emissions, safety, crash certification process for every engine/car combo they produce. Which is seriously time-consuming and expensive. It's not like the old days where you could order the combo you wanted and they could build it (wish it was like that still). Dropping an LS7 into a 1LE just doesn't make economic sense when you consider they're already at the end of the 5th gen run and are gearing up for the 6th gen.

It works to make a new model like the Z/28 which sets the wheels-in-motion (no pun intended) for this category of car in the 6th gen. That puts in place the development team, the department, the budget and all the necessary corporate mechanisms to have this car become dominant in racing. Production cars that are dominant in racing sell street cars.

I find it HIGHLY interesting that Dodge has already declared they're working on a direct competitor to the Z/28. You KNOW that Ford isn't just sitting there watching all this and doing nothing. Do I detect the first breezes of a new manufacturer's championship series in the near future? I don't think the timing of all this is a coincidence. We are in very interesting times for auto enthusiasts.
Im definately with you on this. I believe we'll see a Z/28 that is produced for the masses unlike this one thats currently coming out.

As for Dodge, I believe we'll be seeing the Barricuda evolve into their track car as it was used in the Trans Am racing circuit in 1970. They know the Challenger is WAYYYY too big for the track.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:23 PM   #67
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The trucks pay for the engine program
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:45 AM   #68
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Im definately with you on this. I believe we'll see a Z/28 that is produced for the masses unlike this one thats currently coming out.

As for Dodge, I believe we'll be seeing the Barricuda evolve into their track car as it was used in the Trans Am racing circuit in 1970. They know the Challenger is WAYYYY too big for the track.
The Z/28 is not a car for the masses and trying to make it one will give us a car like the 4th gen Z28.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:26 AM   #69
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe GM has to do a full emissions, safety, crash certification process for every engine/car combo they produce. Which is seriously time-consuming and expensive. It's not like the old days where you could order the combo you wanted and they could build it (wish it was like that still). Dropping an LS7 into a 1LE just doesn't make economic sense when you consider they're already at the end of the 5th gen run and are gearing up for the 6th gen.

It works to make a new model like the Z/28 which sets the wheels-in-motion (no pun intended) for this category of car in the 6th gen. That puts in place the development team, the department, the budget and all the necessary corporate mechanisms to have this car become dominant in racing. Production cars that are dominant in racing sell street cars.

I find it HIGHLY interesting that Dodge has already declared they're working on a direct competitor to the Z/28. You KNOW that Ford isn't just sitting there watching all this and doing nothing. Do I detect the first breezes of a new manufacturer's championship series in the near future? I don't think the timing of all this is a coincidence. We are in very interesting times for auto enthusiasts.
would be sooooo fricken sweet to have a new manufacturers championship series. people my age will be talking about this as our heyday for cars the way my pops talks about the 60s and early 70s
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:29 AM   #70
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Really getting sick of this whole entitlement people are having over a badge. I want a Z28! I want an LS7! So you want a badge designed originally for the track, and a racing motor, but don't want to pay race car price for it.

Please. Go get the Z28 badge off a broken 4th gen in a yard, LT headers, cam, intake, exhaust, etc for your LS3 and go drive your Z28.

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