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Old 04-24-2013, 02:04 PM   #26
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #27
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This is a tough one. Knowing that Stielow is developing this makes it hard to guess because he's going to wring every ounce of performance out of this beast.

I'm going to say this car will set a new record for Chevrolet. I'm gonna guess 7:19.6 and yes it will beat the ZR1's lap time.
That would be extremely impressive but I don't see that happening. I believe this Z/28 is going to be a track monster I can't see it being that good though.

I am going to respectfully disagree.

the Z06 with Z07 package did the ring in 7:22, and the Z06 weighs in at 3175 pounds according to Chevy. The 3400 pound ZR1 with and additional 130 HP and 130 lb/ft did it in 7:19.68

The Z/28 is with the same engine as the Z06 is gonna weigh in at around 3800 lbs (from what we have seen), I know its pretty much a full on race car, but the suspension, tires, and brakes are gonna make up for that extra 625 pounds? I don't know that would be a hell of an accomplishment for team Chevy.

So my prediction is 7:30.00, which puts it right up there with some very high dollar, high performance cars
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #28
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:57 PM   #29
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:38 PM   #30
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That would be extremely impressive but I don't see that happening. I believe this Z/28 is going to be a track monster I can't see it being that good though.

I am going to respectfully disagree.

the Z06 with Z07 package did the ring in 7:22, and the Z06 weighs in at 3175 pounds according to Chevy. The 3400 pound ZR1 with and additional 130 HP and 130 lb/ft did it in 7:19.68

The Z/28 is with the same engine as the Z06 is gonna weigh in at around 3800 lbs (from what we have seen), I know its pretty much a full on race car, but the suspension, tires, and brakes are gonna make up for that extra 625 pounds? I don't know that would be a hell of an accomplishment for team Chevy.

So my prediction is 7:30.00, which puts it right up there with some very high dollar, high performance cars
Weight isn't necessarily an advantage or disadvantage on a course like the ring it's more about the suspension and how well it can put the power down and keep it down. Without any other info I'm putting my faith in Stielow and his ability to make track killer cars. I'm standing by my guess. The 11" square tire config is going to do a lot to offset weight differences.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:15 PM   #31
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Weight isn't necessarily an advantage or disadvantage on a course like the ring it's more about the suspension and how well it can put the power down and keep it down. Without any other info I'm putting my faith in Stielow and his ability to make track killer cars. I'm standing by my guess. The 11" square tire config is going to do a lot to offset weight differences.
Touche, but there is also the extra 134 Hp on 130 lb/ft of torque in the ZR1 vs the Z/28

either way I am excited to see the times
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:22 PM   #32
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #33
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the guy on the mustang fourms has no idea what hes talking about
Depends on which meds he uses on which days...or is that daze?

Here's a Pill quote, verbatim, regarding the Z/28:

"BTW, I am paying for one... If the production numbers are low enough and I can get one."
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:16 PM   #34
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:18 PM   #35
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It weighs 3800 lbs! No way it'll be faster than a 458 with roughly the same horsepower!
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #36
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:56 PM   #37
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Looks rough to me...

The Z/28 sounds great but it just does not look as smooth as the ZL1 in the small video portions I have seen.

The ZL1 video's on YOUTUBE and GM's website in the ring look much smoother then the Z/28. Admittedly, they are still dialing it in but I think they have more work to do.

I can say that it does not look as if it would be that comfortable to drive on the street as stiff as the ride looks in the videos so far. I am hopeful and optimistic they can live up to the hype they have created because EVERYONE is watching.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:02 PM   #39
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:14 PM   #40
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I'm going to say it will be around Z06 time frame so 7:29.999999
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:28 PM   #41
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:38 PM   #42
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Everyone saying 7:18-7:25 are crazy. That is Corvette ZR1 (w/ Sport Cup tires) and Dodge Viper ACR territory. The Camaro Z/28 will likely have 100+ less horsepower and weigh ~300 lbs more than the ZR1 and ACR Viper. What makes you think it will run those lap times?

I think the Z/28 will run 7:33.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:34 AM   #44
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Everyone saying 7:18-7:25 are crazy. That is Corvette ZR1 (w/ Sport Cup tires) and Dodge Viper ACR territory. The Camaro Z/28 will likely have 100+ less horsepower and weigh ~300 lbs more than the ZR1 and ACR Viper. What makes you think it will run those lap times?
I think the Z/28 will run 7:33.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:50 AM   #47
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I say it beats the GT-R. Sub 7:24.
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Everyone saying 7:18-7:25 are crazy. That is Corvette ZR1 (w/ Sport Cup tires) and Dodge Viper ACR territory. The Camaro Z/28 will likely have 100+ less horsepower and weigh ~300 lbs more than the ZR1 and ACR Viper. What makes you think it will run those lap times?

I think the Z/28 will run 7:33.
We don't actually know the horsepower; GM said "about" 500 which you can take means more than that, they're just not sure how much more. Weight isn't as big a factor on a track like the Ring which GM proved with the surprising lap times of the ZL1. It's about suspension, spring rates, shock damping and tire grip. Stielow and team are clearly spending a LOT of time focusing on those areas. In those videos you can see a Vette, ZL1 and Z/28 running at the same time under the same conditions. That means they're studying the differences between lighter (vette) versus heavier but intelligent suspension (ZL1) and making adjustments to the Z/28 accordingly. Being out there all at the same time eliminates the variables of weather and track conditions.

Read up on the car projects Stielow has done and you'll realize what this guy can do. He's got the green light from GM management to make this a real track star and I'll be very surprised if this car isn't the fastest GM production car out on the ring. They're learning from what Stielow is doing so the high-performance version of the C7 Stingray will likely take back that crown next year but for now I believe the Z/28 is going to become king and surprise a lot of people. Yes I believe it's going to beat the ZR1's and Viper's times that are in the book.
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Everyone saying 7:18-7:25 are crazy. That is Corvette ZR1 (w/ Sport Cup tires) and Dodge Viper ACR territory. The Camaro Z/28 will likely have 100+ less horsepower and weigh ~300 lbs more than the ZR1 and ACR Viper. What makes you think it will run those lap times?

I think the Z/28 will run 7:33.
So far, every video I have seen on the ZL1 and Z/28 at nurburgring shows the Z/28 going through a set of turns a second faster than the ZL1. Same day and same conditions. I don't know if it's my imagination or what, but that's significant.

Doc's a little more optimistic than I am, but if GM is going to make this a track monster, then they just as well do it right from the beginning.
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