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Old 04-30-2013, 03:06 PM   #51
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I like the look of the redesign other than the chrome strip on the front. Im getting a Z/28 so it doesnt apply, thank goodness. Once the refreshed models hit the road you can bet the "old" design will start to look dated.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:07 PM   #52
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Kind of disappointed at the lack of a front splitter on the 1LE but it looks awesome. Must resist the temptation to change my order to SIM!
I have seen some pics from the side where it looks like the new fascia sticks out more on the bottom like the 2013 did with the splitter. Not sure how much futher they could have it sticking out to and be useable on the street and not get destroyed the first time you drove it. I know what you are saying though. It was a part of the 1LE extras and now it's not.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:10 PM   #53
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:14 PM   #54
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I like them. The rear end is a tad busy but overall I like the updates.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:16 PM   #55
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I disagree. hell the refresh caused me to go out and order a 2013.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:17 PM   #56
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I don't like that rear on the ZL1. Looks ok on the 1LE but it just does't look as good on the ZL1 for some reason.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #57
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I have seen some pics from the side where it looks like the new fascia sticks out more on the bottom like the 2013 did with the splitter. Not sure how much futher they could have it sticking out to and be useable on the street and not get destroyed the first time you drove it. I know what you are saying though. It was a part of the 1LE extras and now it's not.
Yep, and it should be reflected in the price. The price of the 1LE package should go down a couple hundred or so without a splitter. I like the new spoiler but I do find it odd that the ZL1 and 1LE rear ends are exactly the same, unless I'm missing something. The rear diffusers look identical to me.
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That hood scoop looks wayyyyy too small. Looks like a huge afterthought....something ricers get at Autozone and glue it to the hood.

Major epic fail.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:21 PM   #59
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They nailed the front end design with the Z/28. It's a shame that you have to pay a premium to get the good looking car. That's where the current GM failed where the late 60's GM didn't.
The front of the Z/28 is the same as the SS except the splitter.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:25 PM   #60
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I don't like that rear on the ZL1. Looks ok on the 1LE but it just does't look as good on the ZL1 for some reason.
They wanted to reduce the visual look of the rear (saying too many said it had a big rear???). The problem is the ZL1's front is off the old design which is bulkier than than the more aerodynamic 2014 front end, causing the new rear to look smaller and weaker, out of balance .
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Exactly the same as far as I can tell. This SS is an RS with chrome lip and LED tail lights, I prefer the non RS. I plan to get a non RS 1LE in white with recaros.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:27 PM   #62
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I'm still not liking it. At least I know I can swap out front on the 14 model with a 10-13 style and add the heritage grill. The rear is still questionable, but I'm thinking rear bumper possibly exhaust and trunk lid for sure can be replaced to make it look right.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:29 PM   #63
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Just throwing this out there but did anyone think that gm just doesn't want the zl-1 bumper being shown in public yet? I can't see them totally refreshing every model and then using a 2 year old front on one model
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The front of the Z/28 is the same as the SS except the splitter.
You better look again. It isn't even close to the same

No ugly chrome strip, head lights assembly's are not the same and the grills are different. Those three things take it from a fail to a win.
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Yep, and it should be reflected in the price. The price of the 1LE package should go down a couple hundred or so without a splitter. I like the new spoiler but I do find it odd that the ZL1 and 1LE rear ends are exactly the same, unless I'm missing something. The rear diffusers look identical to me.
Don't count on it. With an exclusive spoiler and the fact that now, the hood wrap has to be worked around the hood extractor, the price likely won't change on the package.

Look closer at the rear bumpers. The lower rear fascias are very different on those cars. The area between the exhaust outlets is different and the ZL1 flares out behind the rear splash guards.
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Don't count on it. With an exclusive spoiler and the fact that now, the hood wrap has to be worked around the hood extractor, the price likely won't change on the package.

Look closer at the rear bumpers. The lower rear fascias are very different on those cars. The area between the exhaust outlets is different and the ZL1 flares out behind the rear splash guards.
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Don't count on it. With an exclusive spoiler and the fact that now, the hood wrap has to be worked around the hood extractor, the price likely won't change on the package.
Yeah, they probably have their excuses lined up. It's not really exclusive if the ZL1 and 1LE rear spoiler are the same. The cost of the refresh will make the price of a 2014 go up on it's own and that's where the cost of the new spoiler and hood wrap should be absorbed. I know it's wishful thinking but if they're going to nickel and dime us for every change that is made, they should pass down the savings to the customer when parts are removed. Pricing hasn't been announced yet so we shall see.
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Ya know, they should have done hood extractors that were more like the 1st gen hood vents. 2 of them towards the rear of the hood scoop.
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Great pics. I wonder why the ZL1 doesn't get the new front end as well?

Also anyone have an idea why the ZL1 on the car carrier has a red sharkfin on the trunk?
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Still don't like it. But I do wonder why the ZL1 doesn't have the new front fascia

Simple answer. Engineering. They have a lot of hours and research in that front end to do a job and do it well. It serves to cool the motor by acting as a huge scoop and it creates down force as well.
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Yeah, they probably have their excuses lined up. It's not really exclusive if the ZL1 and 1LE rear spoiler are the same. The cost of the refresh will make the price of a 2014 go up on it's own and that's where the cost of the new spoiler and hood wrap should be absorbed. I know it's wishful thinking but if they're going to nickel and dime us for every change that is made, they should pass down the savings to the customer when parts are removed. Pricing hasn't been announced yet so we shall see.
The cost would have gone up regardless of the refresh. Prices increase year over year whether there's a refresh or not. Heck, they have price increases mid model year. A 2013 Camaro ordered today will cost more than one ordered at the beginning of the model year.
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You better look again. It isn't even close to the same

No ugly chrome strip, head lights assembly's are not the same and the grills are different. Those three things take it from a fail to a win.
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Ya know, they should have done hood extractors that were more like the 1st gen hood vents. 2 of them towards the rear of the hood scoop.
ya, but then it would look very similar to the 13/14 mustang GT's
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You better look again. It isn't even close to the same

No ugly chrome strip, head lights assembly's are not the same and the grills are different. Those three things take it from a fail to a win.
IMO those are subtle cues, not drastically different. The SS, 1LE and the Z/28 ('14) retain the same shape and style.
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Ya know, they should have done hood extractors that were more like the 1st gen hood vents. 2 of them towards the rear of the hood scoop.
...Good call...but they might have been too small and in the wrong place...don't think the first gen ones were even functional....The '14s extractor is functional for sure....
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haha the rear on the zl1 looks so out of place and now u can rly see how ugly it is compared to our sexy 2010's. they just basically admitted that the front of the new redesign is ugly and kept the old look on the zl1 and just said **** it slap the new rear on it and call it a day haha omg worst idea ever
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