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Old 05-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #276
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I just showed my wife the 2014s and compared them to the 10-13s
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She said she likes the 2014s for herself because they look more "feminine". Particularly speaking of the rear lights and front end as a whole.
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I don't listen/take advise from my wife too much, but when I do she's usually right. And when she's right, it's usually bad news for me.
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I'm trying to decide if I should go with a 2013 or 14 model, and if I go with a 14, she'll definitely want to drive it. And anytime I drive it, I'm going to think about this post and how she said its "feminine"
As a woman, I disagree with your wife. I would not buy a '14. I used the word neutered when the first pix came out. The edges just looked softened, and the taillights and rear in general look dated to me. IMO, the current models are more aggressive and unique.

ETA: I see you're in Detroit! I bought my car from Becky @ Rodgers & had it shipped out here. She was great to work with and gave us great pricing. We added the GM rockers painted & the GM diffuser: Becky & Maureen let us get pieces of the fx kit, and gave us an unbeatable price on parts & labor. (It was still cheaper to go through Becky & pay shipping than the local dealer we priced out.) Maybe you can call her up, get a can't pass up price for a '13, maybe even one on the lot, and get it ASAP.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #277
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2014 got a Brazilian butt lift! Can anyone photo shop taillight covers and fronts as well?(make look like the current ones) I'm sure someone is already hard at work, coming up with taillight covers.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:44 PM   #278
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I always wondered if the current diffuser caught a lot of air(drag) especially when you remove the big canned exhaust. Maybe GM caught that too...as well as the front. Having said that...2010-2013 vs. 2014 refresh at the track, stock vs. stock. Are we going to see different times?
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...Look at Enator's thread for Camaro sales...down again....the old look is all played out...
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:09 PM   #280
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:59 PM   #281
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2014=fugly sorry hate the change's. I'm still shocked those change's got the approval. If ford builds the the 2015 mustang anything like following concept picture GM is going to see a huge sales reduction imo.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:13 PM   #282
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2014=fugly sorry hate the change's. I'm still shocked those change's got the approval. If ford builds the the 2015 mustang anything like following concept picture GM is going to see a huge sales reduction imo.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:28 PM   #283
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I think the pictures look great -- good job to Team Camaro. While it's absolutely no surprise that people who already own a 2010-2013 are going to push back on the redesign (Ask 93-97 Camaro owners what they think of the 98-02 Camaro), I think it will bring new buyers into the Chevrolet dealerships who otherwise might not have considered the Camaro. It's been well received on many websites that are devoted to the competitors (Mustang sites, Challenger sites, etc) so if it means more conquest sales - that's a HUGE plus.
I owned a 99SS and I prefered the 93-97 body style. The LS1 was just too much to pass up though. I don't currently own a 5th gen so I don't really have a dog in the hunt right now, but I prefer the rear end of the 10-13 over the 14. The front I can go either way, it has grown on me enough that I am indiferent over which style front I get. The question (like for my 99SS) is the Z28 enough of an upgrade over the ZL1 that I will choose the design I like less. If I get a 13 ZL1 I will be adding recaros though!
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IMHO That is BAD@SS!!!

Thanks for posting. Hopefully my project will look half as good when I'm done.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:33 PM   #285
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Have to acknowledge the 5th Gen camaro designers for creating a timeless design ! Messing with the original design Just doesent work case in point 2014 camaro!
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:41 PM   #286
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IMHO That is BAD@SS!!!

Thanks for posting. Hopefully my project will look half as good when I'm done.

Now I DO like that front end. That's the way they should have came out. Now for the back end....
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Now I DO like that front end. That's the way they should have came out. Now for the back end....
It's just the SS and Z/28 front end with some blackout.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:28 PM   #288
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This is also a great pic showing how stretched the 285s look on the rear of the 1LE. First thing I'll change on mine if I get one.
You will get more understeer if you care about that. But a bigger rear sway will cure.

But that explains why they did what they did. And they decided to save a few $$ by using the ZL1 rear wheels versus a less wide rear wheel.

But I am happy they did it that way. They kept the awesome 1LE package affordable. Hopefully the 2014 is still as reasonable.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:05 PM   #289
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The 2014 is growing on me. I really like the 1LE shown here. I do wish they had kept some sort of splitter on the front though. I have a well equiped 2013 already so I dont feel much pressure to run out and get a 14' 1LE but when I see one in person I may change my mind based on price increase, cost of options (recaros in the 1LE).
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:20 PM   #290
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:28 PM   #291
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I like the look of the redesign other than the chrome strip on the front. Im getting a Z/28 so it doesnt apply, thank goodness. Once the refreshed models hit the road you can bet the "old" design will start to look dated.
The SS models and V6 models most likely will. The ZL1 will continue to look new. I wouldn't call a rear end change a "refresh" or give it the power to look outdated. Takes more than that. Then again the 2010-2013 MY look better than the 2014MY, anyhow.
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Wow. I really like the '14 1LE. The blacked out hood makes the vent fit right in. After looking at the side by side pics, the '14 looks more modern than my '11. The rear shot of the 1LE makes the back look slimmer. While I do like the older taillights a little better, the '14 is not ugly just a little plain. Loving the exposed hardware in the back. Overall the new design takes away some of the blocky look of the older car.

And if you like the look of the Z28 you will like the non-RS 1LE. Lower it, add the splitter, side skirts, and remove the wrap and it's the same look. You even get better looking wheels.

While the pre '14 V6 Camaro without the spoiler was the best looking stock Camaro to me, the '14 non-RS 1LE is now my favorite. Make mine a 1SS, non-RS, red with Recaros. After all it's not what the 1LE looks like, it's what it can do.

I am so glad so many like the pre '14 Camaro better. Anyone want to make me an offer on my gorgeous 2011? It's for sale! Get one of the last Camaros before GM ruined it. It even has the coveted Camaro steering wheel.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:53 PM   #293
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Have to acknowledge the 5th Gen camaro designers for creating a timeless design ! Messing with the original design Just doesent work case in point 2014 camaro!
Jesus Christ dude! Why do you feel the need to bombard every thread you're a part of with pics of your car? We get it, you own a "timeless" '13.


As for everyone else, we're aware you're glad you got your 10-13 when you did. But really, come on. Who really cares? Let me answer that: No one! Some like the refresh and some don't. Let's leave it at that. Make room for the '14MY+ owners instead of alienating them as you've done consistently for the last month.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:05 PM   #294
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ETA: I see you're in Detroit! I bought my car from Becky @ Rodgers & had it shipped out here. She was great to work with and gave us great pricing. We added the GM rockers painted & the GM diffuser: Becky & Maureen let us get pieces of the fx kit, and gave us an unbeatable price on parts & labor. (It was still cheaper to go through Becky & pay shipping than the local dealer we priced out.) Maybe you can call her up, get a can't pass up price for a '13, maybe even one on the lot, and get it ASAP.
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Ironically, I never been to Woodhaven till literally yesterday
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But I will be sure to give them a call, doubt ill buy from them. I have a pretty good salesman who I feel "goes out the way for me" from Merollis Chevy. But checking for pricing couldn't hurt especially since that's whats holding up my decision between the 2013s and 2014s
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:13 PM   #295
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Ironically, I never been to Woodhaven till literally yesterday
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But I will be sure to give them a call, doubt ill buy from them. I have a pretty good salesman who I feel "goes out the way for me" from Merollis Chevy. But checking for pricing couldn't hurt especially since that's whats holding up my decision between the 2013s and 2014s
Glad you have a salesman you trust. You may already know, but Becky's on this forum here. Hope you get a car you love for a good price.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:58 PM   #296
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Jesus Christ dude! Why do you feel the need to bombard every thread you're a part of with pics of your car? We get it, you own a "timeless" '13.


As for everyone else, we're aware you're glad you got your 10-13 when you did. But really, come on. Who really cares? Let me answer that: No one! Some like the refresh and some don't. Let's leave it at that. Make room for the '14MY+ owners instead of alienating them as you've done consistently for the last month.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:59 PM   #297
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btw im really feeling the 14 LE .. I can tell a couple people are as well
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:54 AM   #298
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That 2014 1LE looks too much like a glorified 2014 SS. Thank god the ZL1 kept the 2010-2013 looks except for the rear and even then the rear isn't bad.
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Really like the way the 14 looks. But imho a camaro needs stipes, can't wait to see all color + stripe options

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Old 05-02-2013, 11:26 AM   #300
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I like the look of the redesign other than the chrome strip on the front. Im getting a Z/28 so it doesnt apply, thank goodness. Once the refreshed models hit the road you can bet the "old" design will start to look dated.
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The SS models and V6 models most likely will. The ZL1 will continue to look new. I wouldn't call a rear end change a "refresh" or give it the power to look outdated. Takes more than that. Then again the 2010-2013 MY look better than the 2014MY, anyhow.
I guess I'm confused. I thought our cars were designed to be "retro". If the '10-'13 will look dated compared to the '14+, does that mean we'll be retro-retro? Isn't "dated" the look we're after?

(not really confused, just being facetious)
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