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Old 05-03-2013, 08:24 PM   #15
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That thread is so insulting hahaha. I can take guys calling my baby fat (she is), but everyone in that thread called the camaro ugly.

Well I never!
Meh they are just mad that for the past 3 yrs (basically this generation of musclecars) Camaros have been winning the sales wars.

The people have spoken and they love Camaros
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:29 PM   #16
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I know, but why would you post this in the Camaro general section on a Camaro website?
I didn't post it.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:50 PM   #17
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That thread is so insulting hahaha. I can take guys calling my baby fat (she is), but everyone in that thread called the camaro ugly.

Well I never!
oh your baby isn't fat and ugly...ok maybe stout and off pretty...if its fat and ugly.....I love fat and ugly, man im changing as I get older
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:20 PM   #18
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I didn't post it.
I meant the OP
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:30 PM   #19
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well then the 6th gen camaro and what ever gen mustang this next one will be will probably be about the same weight IMO, they gotta us that argument as often as they can because it won't hold water much longer...LOL
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:01 PM   #20
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And the Mustang has had the weight advantage for awhile now...doesn't seem to have helped them much.

Just sayin'
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:15 PM   #21
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And the Mustang has had the weight advantage for awhile now...doesn't seem to have helped them much.

Just sayin'
Mustang .97 lateral-g vs Camaro .92 lateral-g, with the same tire compound, but the Camaro on wider tires. I'd say the weight advantage is showing up rather significantly there.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:32 PM   #22
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If history continues like it has since 1967, the Camaro will be heavier than the Mustang. The 6th gen Camaro will be lighter compared to the 5th gen but don't expect it to be an impressive weight loss. I'm guessing the 6th gen SS will be ~3600 lbs.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:38 PM   #23
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Mustang .97 lateral-g vs Camaro .92 lateral-g, with the same tire compound, but the Camaro on wider tires. I'd say the weight advantage is showing up rather significantly there.
Which mustang and which camaro?

As for as I know only a pre 2012 camaro ss has been tested. There was a suspension revision since then. Also the camaro was always tested against the track pack mustangs with gearing, suspension, and other improvements.

The track pack camaro pulls over 1g's. The ZL1 pulls over 1g's.

The GT500 pulls 0.98g's
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:47 AM   #24
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:19 AM   #25
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This reminds me of when I was running my business. I was Camaro, with the restrictions in place because Corvette doesn't want it's toes stepped on, and my competitor was Mustang. My restrictions were business ethics, and my competitor had none, he'd fire out with some lame and unethical big weapon, and I'd stick to my plan and improve by my standard not his. It's like the GT500, it goes fast in a straight line, good for them, Chevy has been saying for a while on the Corvette, and of course now the Camaro, that they want to work on lighter cars that are faster on tracks because of it. Ford now wants to play that game too.

So like should we even compare the GT500 to the ZL1, I mean Scott says that Mustang is Ford's Camaro and Corvette. So like shouldn't we be comparing the GT500 to the Z06 or Grand Sport, I don't know. I know if Ford won't publish the Nurburgring time for GT500 because it's slower than ZL1, then it's a heck of a lot slower than Z06 and ZR1
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:35 AM   #26
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I know how there gonna remove 200lbs from the mustang...there gonna remove the fatty drivers lol

2015 Mustang now on sale= Jumbo paper weight
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:41 AM   #27
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200 pounds less than the current Mustang will be around 3400 pounds. Damn.......that's only 100 pounds more than the new C7 Vette.....
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:46 AM   #28
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Which is pretty much what the next Camaro should be given the ATS's weight range of 3315* to 3461. I realize there will be some weight gain due to Chevy using fewer lightweight components in the chassis itself, but that should be offset by fewer heavy sound deadening and other high-end luxury components. I'd be willing to bet the base model alpha Camaro will come in under 3400 and the V6 under 3500.

* 3315 pounds is the curb weight for the ATS 2.5L, the 2.0L turbo curb weight is 3373 (A) and 3403 (M)
Thats if GM uses the ATS version for the Camaro. All indicators I have from sources I trust put the Camaro on the CTS version of Alpha or a hybrid version thats an in betweener so to speak. The weights for this Alpha chassis have only been seen for the premium luxury version, its a little to early speculate where the Camaro version will end up or if GM will allow all the aluminum and titanium bits to trickle down.

I would like to think a 33xx base and 36xx lb V8 Camaro is a real possiblity this time around. I also know that GM is scared as hell to mess with the success of the 5th gen. My hunch, and thats all it is, a hunch, is that youll see a ever so "slightly" lighter car in roughly similar dimensions to the 5th gen. My jaw would be on the floor if they actually built a ATS sized Camaro with ATS like weight like I would want.
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