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Old 05-02-2013, 12:12 PM   #15
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Thats high! You can buy them here for $13,592 + $175 shipping.

http://performanceparts.com/part/GMP/19244098
first place off the top of my head. I have an LS7 already
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:26 PM   #16
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Thats high! You can buy them here for $13,592 + $175 shipping.

http://performanceparts.com/part/GMP/19244098


Correct me if I am wrong but will that exact engine fit into a camaro? I thought i read that the exhaust manifold, etc was specifically modified to fit the engine bay of the camaro. If it is truly as easy as ordering a 1LE and then dropping another $13,500 on the engine, then that's a bargin - maybe less than a ZL-1, depending on labor costs. Damn, I am so confused on what to buy. Just glad I have awesome choices...
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:27 PM   #17
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first place off the top of my head. I have an LS7 already
Right on! But its in a vette :( lol jk
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:25 PM   #18
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Thats high! You can buy them here for $13,592 + $175 shipping.

http://performanceparts.com/part/GMP/19244098

Correct me if I am wrong but will that exact engine fit into a camaro? I thought i read that the exhaust manifold, etc was specifically modified to fit the engine bay of the camaro. If it is truly as easy as ordering a 1LE and then dropping another $13,500 on the engine, then that's a bargin - maybe less than a ZL-1, depending on labor costs. Damn, I am so confused on what to buy. Just glad I have awesome choices...

Manifolds can be changed but im pretty sure the engine mounts are the same so it should in theory "drop in"

As for just the engine - you will need to have it tuned. You will also need to convert it to a wet sump system (Mast Motorsports sell their LS7s already converted).

I am sure there are a few other things but yes I would think you could do the swap under 20k. So for about 50k you could have a 427 1LE
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:26 PM   #19
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Right on! But its in a vette :( lol jk
And I will probably sell it now before the value tanks
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:16 AM   #20
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Manifolds can be changed but im pretty sure the engine mounts are the same so it should in theory "drop in"

As for just the engine - you will need to have it tuned. You will also need to convert it to a wet sump system (Mast Motorsports sell their LS7s already converted).

I am sure there are a few other things but yes I would think you could do the swap under 20k. So for about 50k you could have a 427 1LE
The price I gave with the link is just the engine. There's more you'll need. Total cost of the engine with wiring harness and dry sump system ready to drop in, is around $16000. I'd keep it dry sump instead of converting it to wet sump. That's just me tho. It'd be much easier for a wet sump configuration and if I'm not mistaken, you can swap the las3 oil pan onto this 427 along with a few other things.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:47 AM   #21
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i think it was HOT ROD magazine that did a wet sump conversion to the LS7 and it picked up something like 20hp.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:57 AM   #22
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i think it was HOT ROD magazine that did a wet sump conversion to the LS7 and it picked up something like 20hp.
Yep I read the article a cpl wks ago.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...n/viewall.html
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C7's already proven to be about 2-sec/lap quicker around VIR than the old C6 Grand Sport.

Whether the Z/28 will be quicker than a C7 is an interesting debate.

Yeah, it's got 55 more horsepower but it's also got about 500-lbs more to carry and it's got worse areo.

Once the C7 Z51 is available it would be really interesting to test it against the Z/28.

If you're looking for Camaro LS7 info, it's at:
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:29 PM   #24
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C7's already proven to be about 2-sec/lap quicker around VIR than the old C6 Grand Sport.

Whether the Z/28 will be quicker than a C7 is an interesting debate.

Yeah, it's got 55 more horsepower but it's also got about 500-lbs more to carry and it's got worse areo.

Once the C7 Z51 is available it would be really interesting to test it against the Z/28.

If you're looking for Camaro LS7 info, it's at:
http://www.camarohomepage.com/ls7/index.htm
And that's assuming "more than 450 HP" doesnt' really mean 470. Of course the LS7 could make more in the Camaro as well.

So in the end it's just good conversation.

Also need to see gearing and a few other non released tidbits.
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:03 PM   #25
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C7 fans shouldn't worry too much if the Z/28 performs better because it's likely to cost more.
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:18 PM   #26
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1le is just as fast as the c6 GS (according to C&D), so that would mean the c7 is 2 seconds faster than the 1le...

And if the Z/28 is 3-4 seconds faster than the zl1, then its probably also going to be faster than the z51
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The Vette guys said the z28 will weigh around 3800-3900lbs?! Hhahahaha, my SS weighs is in at 3868 with a blower and half a tank of gas. The new z28 is supposed to be 300lbs lighter so roughly 3500lbs and the same weight as the current 5.0 Mustang.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:28 PM   #28
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The Vette guys said the z28 will weigh around 3800-3900lbs?! Hhahahaha, my SS weighs is in at 3868 with a blower and half a tank of gas. The new z28 is supposed to be 300lbs lighter so roughly 3500lbs and the same weight as the current 5.0 Mustang.
The Z/28 is supposed to be approx 300lbs lighter than the ZL1, not the SS. Go recalculate...

Here's one article... read up.
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