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Old 04-29-2013, 01:55 PM   #337
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First off - those videos were pretty sweet

I am potentially in the same boat. C7 or Camaro 1LE/ZL1/Z/28.

I am curious to see what the price point is for the Z/28. A C7 with Z51 is something like 54,000? At what point do people walk away from the Z/28 to the Corvette as a track car?

The LT1 rumors say 450-500hp. It is a few hundred pounds lighter (possibly) and the difference in price could be spent on brake upgrades and tires.

At 69k, I would probably walk over to the Corvette.
Thanks. You make a great point. Honestly, after Chevy released the pricing of the new C7 I feel like I'm leaning more towards the C7 right now. Z51 track package is $2800 on top of the 51k price. I optioned things out in terms of what I would be looking for and I was still less than 60k. The interior of the C7 will be much better than the Z/28 in terms of design/looks. I guess final reviews/results will tell all, but it looks like the C7 might be a better deal...?
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:00 PM   #339
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First off - those videos were pretty sweet

I am potentially in the same boat. C7 or Camaro 1LE/ZL1/Z/28.

I am curious to see what the price point is for the Z/28. A C7 with Z51 is something like 54,000? At what point do people walk away from the Z/28 to the Corvette as a track car?

The LT1 rumors say 450-500hp. It is a few hundred pounds lighter (possibly) and the difference in price could be spent on brake upgrades and tires.

At 69k, I would probably walk over to the Corvette.
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Thanks. You make a great point. Honestly, after Chevy released the pricing of the new C7 I feel like I'm leaning more towards the C7 right now. Z51 track package is $2800 on top of the 51k price. I optioned things out in terms of what I would be looking for and I was still less than 60k. The interior of the C7 will be much better than the Z/28 in terms of design/looks. I guess final reviews/results will tell all, but it looks like the C7 might be a better deal...?
My dilemma as well. I've always been a Z/28 guy though...I'm definitely torn.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:21 PM   #340
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Wanna know more about the "heart" of the Z/28? Consider this timely thread as REQUIRED READING.

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Old 04-30-2013, 07:00 PM   #341
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I read that whole thing; very good read. I find it interesting that even though it seems the LS7 they're talking about for the Z/28 was showing 505 hp, Chevy is still only saying "about 500 hp" which I take it to mean they're still working on increasing the power. It would be nice if they could get an SAE rated 515 or more; maybe even 525 out of the production version.
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I read that whole thing; very good read. I find it interesting that even though it seems the LS7 they're talking about for the Z/28 was showing 505 hp, Chevy is still only saying "about 500 hp" which I take it to mean they're still working on increasing the power. It would be nice if they could get an SAE rated 515 or more; maybe even 525 out of the production version.
True Doc, and since GM is not changing anything internally on the motor itself as we know it's up to the airbox/air intake, tri-y's and exhaust where the gain will be found. Maybe 25 HP and 30 ft lb tq.
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True Doc, and since GM is not changing anything internally on the motor itself as we know it's up to the airbox/air intake, tri-y's and exhaust where the gain will be found. Maybe 25 HP and 30 ft lb tq.
The tune will also probably come into play a bit.
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The tune will also probably come into play a bit.
...yes indeedy, and hopefully they set it up as far as they can go within EPA limits...even if a surcharge comes into play, damn the torpedo's, full speed ahead...
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Wow! Great stuff! Thanks a million for posting. Great look inside the development of the engine. Was surprised and a bit disappointed to learn the tri-y headers on the Z actually are more restrictive than then Vette's headers. I had thought they would provide hp/tq gains but it is the opposite.
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Wow! Great stuff! Thanks a million for posting. Great look inside the development of the engine. Was surprised and a bit disappointed to learn the tri-y headers on the Z actually are more restrictive than then Vette's headers. I had thought they would provide hp/tq gains but it is the opposite.
My thoughts as well after seeing them compared to the Corvette's. I thought they would flow better.

My guess is 520 HP and 500 TQ
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #347
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Wow! Great stuff! Thanks a million for posting. Great look inside the development of the engine. Was surprised and a bit disappointed to learn the tri-y headers on the Z actually are more restrictive than then Vette's headers. I had thought they would provide hp/tq gains but it is the opposite.
Correct, the OEM ZO6 exhaust manifolds fare very well compared to LT's. Since the Z/28 has to meet current emission standards ( SS & ZL-1's use 4 cats ) I expect the Z/28 may also. I wouldn't expect the Z/28 spec'ed LS7 to produce a whole lot more HP/TQ than the ZO6 spec engine. It's a pretty efficient and tuned piece already.
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Spoken like a guy that actually knows what he's talking about and actually takes his car to the track on frequent basis and isn't half bad at it:


Don't matter what you were driving, very nice skills there... enjoyed the vids
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I agree. The CC brakes should be optional. Their price point alone will exclude some buyers. I guess the smart thing would be to take them off and put the zl1 rotors on. The Z/28 is 300 lbs lighter and will have superior braking performance anyway.
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