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Old 05-01-2013, 10:38 AM   #1
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How many of these bad boys are they going to build?
I want to make sure I get one
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they said there is no set limit.
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All I have heard is they will build as many as they sell.
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Isn't the number of LS7's left from the previous Wixom build the constraining factor?
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...the bottleneck will be the LS7's, if they are pre-producing them, already available, or being produced based on an artificial estimation of initial demand for the first half year. I say 500 units for 2014 <2012 ZL1 unit's were 1972>...just a guestimate based on an envelope I found inside a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnel's back porch....., they did make the same statement attempting to meet the demand as they did with the introduction of the ZL1.
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How many of these bad boys are they going to build?
I want to make sure I get one
Your wallet/connections/willingness to act now with a deposit will ensure that, not knowing the production number.
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I recall one of the GM execs in one of those "interview" threads from the auto-show stating..."Production will be limited...but we will build as many as customers want..."

To me, that means perhaps production capacity is not as large as other models, only so many can be made in a week, month, whatever...don't expect a glut of them to be available...as orders come in, deposits made, or whatever will determine how many and how fast they can build them....just my guess....
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I would assume only a few thousand for each model year they build it until the gen 6
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:46 PM   #9
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I would assume only a few thousand for each model year they build it until the gen 6
They'll have a 6th gen Z/28, bank on it! They've NEVER skipped a generation from the model. Just dont look for it to be ANYTHING like this one cause it wont hold a candle to it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:50 PM   #10
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Your wallet/connections/willingness to act now with a deposit will ensure that, not knowing the production number.
I have called three dealers. None of them are willing to take a deposit. They are all making a list of people to call once they know if they are getting an allocation. I am #2 on 2 lists and #3 on a third. They seems to know less than we do about anything related to the Z/28.
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I have called three dealers. None of them are willing to take a deposit. They are all making a list of people to call once they know if they are getting an allocation. I am #2 on 2 lists and #3 on a third. They seems to know less than we do about anything related to the Z/28.
I wouldnt worry about IF you can get one? You want one? Willing to pay what they want? You'll have one. No worries.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:21 PM   #12
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I recall one of the GM execs in one of those "interview" threads from the auto-show stating "production will be limited, but we will build as many as customers want."
That's because they don't expect people to want very many after people see the very high MSRP they finally reveal for the 2014 Z/28. GM is expecting to match low production to low demand.

The closest comparison to a 2014 Camaro Z/28 would be a 2000 Mustang Cobra R. They only built 300 of the 2000 Cobra Rs. It came with no air and no radio and no back seat and R-compound racing tires and adjustable racing shocks, etcetera. It had a 385HP 5.4 liter DOHC V8 when the 2001 Mustang Cobra had only a 320HP 4.6 liter DOHC V8. MSRP for the Cobra R was $55K versus $30K for the 2001 Cobra (I'm using the 2001 for comparison because there were no regular Mustang Cobras built in 2000 or in 2002). And don't even bother comparing the Cobra R to the lesser 2000 Mustang GT.

How many of the 2014 Z/28 GM builds will determine the price. If only a few hundred, they could be very expensive, proportionally like the 2000 Mustang Cobra R. Even if they build a thousand or more they will still be very pricey.
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production is limited because this is pretty much an all out race car with a VIN that you can drive on the street.

Most people will not want it and to those people the ZL1 will be cheaper/nicer of an all around car they are looking for.

The Z/28 is either destined for a carcover and garage or the race track.


So I believe the production will be limited but something tells me a few thousand of these cars will be made. They sold plenty of 70k+ Corvettes why not sell that many Camaros?
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They'll have a 6th gen Z/28, bank on it! They've NEVER skipped a generation from the model. Just dont look for it to be ANYTHING like this one cause it wont hold a candle to it.
thats what I meant, didn't word it right. THIS Z/28 will only be built in a couple thousand units IMO.

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production is limited because this is pretty much an all out race car with a VIN that you can drive on the street.

Most people will not want it and to those people the ZL1 will be cheaper/nicer of an all around car they are looking for.

The Z/28 is either destined for a carcover and garage or the race track.


So I believe the production will be limited but something tells me a few thousand of these cars will be made. They sold plenty of 70k+ Corvettes why not sell that many Camaros?
I agree that they may sell a few thousand, but ill also say personally I think more people (outside buyers here looking for a toy/weekend warrior) would rather drop 70K on a Corvette than a Camaro.
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It won't be limited in the sense that 'we shall only build 280 units and stop there' type of limit. But there is no way they can build 28,000 of them either. Too many logistical issues get in the way.

Also, I don't believe the engines are 'left overs' from Wixom. There are differences between the Z/28 LS7 and the one in the Z06, namely the A/C being optional. Even though its a slight change, I can't see them running around pulling apart the front end of the engine to remove A/C and swap in a dummy pulley every time a Z/28 gets ordered.
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It won't be limited in the sense that 'we shall only build 280 units and stop there' type of limit. But there is no way they can build 28,000 of them either. Too many logistical issues get in the way.

Also, I don't believe the engines are 'left overs' from Wixom. There are differences between the Z/28 LS7 and the one in the Z06, namely the A/C being optional. Even though its a slight change, I can't see them running around pulling apart the front end of the engine to remove A/C and swap in a dummy pulley every time a Z/28 gets ordered.
I haven't seen the LS7 line in Wixom, but there is generally an engine dress line in most vehicle assembly plants where the FAD is installed and the engine is mated to the appropriate transmission.

Just watched an LS9 build video and they racked the finished engine without the front accessories intalled.
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They are still building LS7 crate engines to sell...so would have to believe they are building them as required not pulling them off the shelf.
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They are still building LS7 crate engines to sell...so would have to believe they are building them as required not pulling them off the shelf.
Is that confirmed? Or are crate engines feeding both GMPP and Z/28? Just haven't seen anything on what they are building in Bowling Green.
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I asked the question in another thread a while ago and there were a few comments that they are still building them. They could of been lying to me, but I doubt it.
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Its only a mater of some time till the LS7 is done, look for a new LT1 in a years time to replace the LS7, so i think we are looking at some where between 1K to 2 K run on the Z/28 at most.
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Its only a mater of some time till the LS7 is done, look for a new LT1 in a years time to replace the LS7, so i think we are looking at some where between 1K to 2 K run on the Z/28 at most.
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Is that confirmed? Or are crate engines feeding both GMPP and Z/28? Just haven't seen anything on what they are building in Bowling Green.
When are they supposed to begin building at bowling green? Because the Z/28 isn't expected until 1st quarter of next year, that has to be pretty close to when the specialty engines line should start up over there.
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Corvette Stingray is scheduled to start regular production the first Monday in August.

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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was refering to the relocating of the performance build centre from Wixom to Bowling Green, where they do the special hand built high performance engines.
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was refering to the relocating of the performance build centre from Wixom to Bowling Green, where they do the special hand built high performance engines.

I recall reading that the PBC will start up in Bowling Green early in 2014.
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