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Old 05-06-2013, 09:43 PM   #12801
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:09 PM   #12802
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:38 PM   #12803
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And raises more.
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Confirmed that LS7 production is still underway at GM Powertrain's PBC. It will continue through October 2013. After that, PBC will shutdown and move to Bowling Green Assembly. Dave Tatman, the plant manager at BG Assy, stated last week that it will open, per the previously announced schedule, in Q1 of 2014. Tatman also implied that the "Engine Build Experience," which was an available option with Corvette ZR1s, Z06es, Grand Sports with LS3 manuals and COPO Camaros, will eventually be part of the PBC at B.G.

Experienced GM watchers, should see that as a "clue" as to the engine in the "next" Corvette "Z model".

I think this means that production of the LS7 is going to continue....
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #12804
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A convertible what???
Is that really how sharp the new angle on the front fascias is?

If so then I actually really like it. Except the fog light treatment on the V6.

The rear is still...eh.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #12805
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:45 PM   #12806
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Is that really how sharp the new angle on the front fascias is?

If so then I actually really like it. Except the fog light treatment on the V6.

The rear is still...eh.
Yes much more aerodynamic. I agree about the rear, however it can be changed out for a 2010-2013.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:34 PM   #12807
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I think this means that production of the LS7 is going to continue....
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:47 PM   #12808
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Nope.
Just curious... If it's not going to continue why move all of the tooling and such?
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:21 PM   #12809
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I think this means that production of the LS7 is going to continue....
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Just curious... If it's not going to continue why move all of the tooling and such?
Crate motors.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:35 PM   #12810
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Crate motors.
I'm confused...

Crate motors as in they are still going to build crate motors or they are just using up crate motors. Seems the info in the Tom Henry thread makes it sound like they are going to continue building LS7's.... but of course my perception could be way off.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:55 PM   #12811
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I'm confused...

Crate motors as in they are still going to build crate motors or they are just using up crate motors. Seems the info in the Tom Henry thread makes it sound like they are going to continue building LS7's.... but of course my perception could be way off.
The LS7 is too dirty to pass emissions as a PRODUCTION motor. It will live on for years as a GMPP crate motor.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:08 AM   #12812
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The LS7 is too dirty to pass emissions as a PRODUCTION motor. It will live on for years as a GMPP crate motor.
Got it. Thanks for the info!
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:26 PM   #12813
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Hmmmmm Z/28 as a daily driver.

A couple of thoughts on that.

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So IMHO, making a track oriented let alone a track specific car like the Z/28 a DD would simply be for the badge on honor you would have on your sleeve................unless you have that mythical race track for your commute.

I used to have that mythical track when I lived out in rural LA. Every drive to & from college was hills & twisties.

Living at the edge of town is convenient, but I do miss that drive.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:33 PM   #12814
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I am getting mixed messages on the status of the Z/28 LS7 engines. Stay tuned...
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:53 PM   #12815
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I am getting mixed messages on the status of the Z/28 LS7 engines. Stay tuned...
Is that good or bad?
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:04 PM   #12816
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:07 PM   #12817
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Is that good or bad?
I'm not sure how it will impact the MSRP on the Z.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:40 PM   #12819
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,,,,ruttt rohhhh!!!! Say it ain't so,...it won't hurt a bit having to pay a surcharge or tax to the GOV, trust me on this one, it's well worth the price of admission to the Zclub....
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I am getting mixed messages on the status of the Z/28 LS7 engines. Stay tuned...

so maybe the z doesn't get a vin.... wait that cant be right...
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:25 AM   #12821
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:38 AM   #12822
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Regarding emissions certification.

If the Z28 is having difficulties passing current standards, would the in place technology for the C7 not be readily be available (it would require a modification of the cylinder head casting to include direct injection)?

I can imagine with the huge ports; intake velocity is too low at idle to fully atomize fuel with a port injection set up.

Direct injection and variable valve timing will clean up idle emissions (they do it for 9000-rpm Ferrari and Porsche).

As you all know; valve/port sizing and cam timing optimized for producing power at high rpm will compromise low speed running or idle, hence all super car manufacturers have the direct injection and variable valve timing in their tool box
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Regarding emissions certification.

If the Z28 is having difficulties passing current standards, would the in place technology for the C7 not be readily be available (it would require a modification of the cylinder head casting to include direct injection)?

I can imagine with the huge ports; intake velocity is too low at idle to fully atomize fuel with a port injection set up.

Direct injection and variable valve timing will clean up idle emissions (they do it for 9000-rpm Ferrari and Porsche).

As you all know; valve/port sizing and cam timing optimized for producing power at high rpm will compromise low speed running or idle, hence all super car manufacturers have the direct injection and variable valve timing in their tool box
I don't see how they would be having difficulties passing emissions standards since the motor is the same that was used in the Z06 and for the Special Edition 427 convertible corvette.
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...Alright, what's the big panic all about over here?...lol...How could they be testing a car at Nurburgring with an engine that doesn't pass emissions for production?....I read the posts, didn't quite get the gist of what's going on...lol...
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I didn't read emissions into Pete's post. I actually don't know what to make of it???
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