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Old 05-01-2013, 04:39 PM   #43
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With those ugly tail lights? Are you kidding?
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:58 PM   #44
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If it actually had a radio I'd consider it. It's odd to me that the radio weighed so much it had to be eliminated.
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You can always buy a radio.

THERE IS A RADIO IN THIS CAR FOLKS it just has one speaker which is good enough for me.

...sorry had to get that off my chest. Everyone keeps saying no radio...

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I hope everyone understands that the weight saving is not the radio it's self but the 9-speakers with 20oz magnets + the sub amp (10lbs +/-)

If I wanted to hear music, I would drop down a few gears to make the LS7 sing.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:55 PM   #45
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I'm ready to trade mine and pay just $25k more lol I think they price it around $40k so 80% of us can obtain one. Lmao!
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:59 AM   #46
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I would trade in a heartbeat if I could afford the 68000 dollar price.
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:12 PM   #47
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I am # 3 on the list for one, I will keep the ZL1 I rather have the ZL1 over the Z28

GM blew it maling the tail lights like that. They look like all the other cars out there. The tail lights where what make the Camaro different.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:48 PM   #48
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Not ready. And no way am I trading the Boss, but I have thought of putting the '65 on the block. My short list is quite odd and includes a '13 Boss, a 13 or 14 Vette, the Z/28, a 2009 or newer 911 4s Targa and sadly -- only in my dreams at this point -- a used Aston Martin DB9. Passed on one that was literally a steal last year (65k!?!?) right after I put the Mustangs away and will probably be kicking myself forever.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:51 PM   #49
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I doubt that there will be many ZL1 owners who will trade their ZL1 for a new Z/28, but I think that there will be some who will add a new Z/28 to their stable.

I see the new Z/28 and ZL1 as two vehicles with different purposes. It's clear to me that the Z/28 is designed with one main focus and that is to be a track oriented car, and it has equipment that is appropriate for track focused use (CC brakes, high revving N/A engine, reduced weight, etc.) which also dictates the associated compromises that make it less suitable for everyday street use (no stereo, no magnetic ride, lack of sound deadening material, no trunk carpeting, no jack, etc.), and it is not recommended for drag racing (the new Z/28 doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1). The ZL1, on the other hand, is designed to be an all around high performance vehicle which will perform well at the track and as a comfortable everyday driver right off of the showroom floor, and it can be relatively easily modified to add horsepower to perform very well at the drag strip.

It seems to me that the ZL1 and the Z/28 each have their place in the Camaro lineup, and there is not much reason based on their intended applications to make an either or choice between the two.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:14 PM   #50
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I am # 3 on the list for one, I will keep the ZL1 I rather have the ZL1 over the Z28

GM blew it maling the tail lights like that. They look like all the other cars out there. The tail lights where what make the Camaro different.
Yup. Just the taillights...
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:19 AM   #51
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I've been reading right along with your comments on the Z-28. I drove one Camaro when it first came out and thought it handled well but thought the visibilty was horrible from the drivers seat. Way too many blind spots for me. I had a limited edition (california) 1985 TPI Iroc-z back when, it was number 105 according to GM Van Nuys staff. They sent me a letter confirming that number as per my request. There were 250 Red ones and 250 Black ones built. It wasn't a very powerful car but it handled like a slot car. It was easy to see from.
The tail lites on the current model have been a deal breaker for me since the Gen 5 came out. I was happy they didn't go retro like Ford and Dodge because they can go anywhere in design without killing some retro model but I could just not get past the rear droopy tail lites. I could have gotten used to the blind spots (looks like you guys have) but things have changed. I particularly like the new taill lites and grille on the upcoming model. As consumers we are fortunate that Chevy has offered a new model to the Camaro lineup although it may not have something for everyone. They have stated that it's not for everyone but I'd be willing to bet that in 10 years people are going to be wishing they had popped for one when they could. Since they priced the Vette at $51,995 I suspect the price the Z will bring will be created more by the Dealer than by Chevy. There will be a host of wealthy people stepping up to get one putting it out of reach for the average guy. I think many will be surprised by the actual msrp. I likely won't own any of the newer Camaro's because I have an old Chevelle SS that holds it's own all these years later. No a/c no power steering, no 4 wheel disc brakes but it does have a cd changer and it doesn't handle anything like your Camaro's but unless you are in the 9 second quarter mile zone you're going to be in my mirror. Those who opt for the Z-28 will have a dang nice ride because we have no idea what will follow this generation. Regards, Dan
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #52
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:17 PM   #53
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