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Old 04-01-2013, 08:27 PM   #126
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Forgeline can now fit 19x11s all around. I prefer the true square to the semi square Z/28.

You can run the 305 setup with stock springs and shocks because the unsprung weight is reduced. You do get better results with the higher spring rates available if you go coilovers.

The HUGE benefit is a dramatic reduction in understeer from just the wheels and tires. Sways, bushes and coils are all plus add ons.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:48 PM   #127
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Yes a square setup probably makes more sense. Do you prefer 19X11 or 19X11.5 (all around) with those tires?
With that set up which of your sway bars do you recommend?.

You did a great job with the Camaro. Congrats!!

PS. Right now I'm looking to replace my Mustang probably with a 1LE. I will contact you when I do that. Thanks!
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:20 PM   #128
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I like how you think. Forgeline 19x11 DP3R full competition wheels are my weapon of choice.

When you get your 1LE we change out the sub-frame and radius bushes along with the 1LE rear balance bar. Those foundational level changes make a HUGE difference in the 1LE and we can build from there.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:54 PM   #129
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The Z/28 should be fast on the Ring running a Pedders like setup. You gotta love 305/30/19 at all four corners. Z/28 running the Ring video is on my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PeddersUSA/
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:07 AM   #131
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The Z/28 should be fast on the Ring running a Pedders like setup. You gotta love 305/30/19 at all four corners. Z/28 running the Ring video is on my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PeddersUSA/
Pete, yes you do gotta love the square 305/30/19 setup!!!

Its funny because last weekend i re-installed my OEM wheels and tires for the trip down to Houston to get PatG to finalize my tune on the new motor. The car just did not feel nearly as nimble/responsive in those 900 miles. After adding the Pedders setup back on i was happy once again! I was able to fix the leak in the wheel by scraping out the old seal and re applying a bead of 3M window weld to the wheel. Had to let it cure....this is why i had to reinstall the monster truck wheels and tires.

Anyway, i am ready to order the 12kg coils, ZL1 rear bar and control arms, end links, and camber plates.

Question: Have Heath and co. at American Muffler and Brake done the camber plates yet...and when its all said and done how should we set up the alignment????

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Old 05-07-2013, 10:09 PM   #132
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Here is a new Chapter for THE Book.
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2013 Strut Mounts, Pedders Coilover Pre-Compression and Ride Height Settings

The 2013 5th Gen delivers with a revised strut mount. The upper portion of the mount appears to be unchanged, but the lower mount and bearing have changed.



The redesign has nothing to do with any strut noises in our opinion. It is possible the driver was cost reduction. The revision to the steel and urethane insulator (the steel plate is wider and flatter) distributes load without the need of an additional plastic seat (the gray plastic on the older style mount).



The dimensional change required an adjustment by Pedders to our billet aluminum coil to OEM mount adapter plate. The 2013 plate has a larger I.D. center hole and is a bit taller. The 2010 - 2012 billet plate mounts directly to the OEM bearing / mount. The 2013 uses the OEM steel and urethane insulator.



Here is the Xa and Supercar coilover stack assembly process. It starts with the coilover, bumpstop, boot and washer.



Slide them on in that order.



Add the coilover spring.



Next we add the OEM mount. The gold tone washer is supplied by Pedders and replaces the OEM washer. We have already added it to the assembly stack, but show it here to make the process more clear. The black plastic coil insulator goes to the spring side of the billet aluminum adapter plate and directly to the OEM mount for 5th Gens made between 2010 and 2012. On the top side of the OEM mount we re-use the OEM black conical washer and 24mm jam nut.



The completed assembly looks like this.



The ONLY difference for a 2013 is that we re-use the OEM urethane and steel insulator. The complete assembly looks like this.



The top view for all years looks just like the OEM assembly.



The coilover stack is a bit different when using our new Dual Bearing Camber Plates. Discard the gold tone washer supplied with your Pedders coilovers. All you'll use in the assembly stack are the bumpstop, boot, plastic coil insulator, lower spring perch with banded thurst bearing, the camber plate and special nut supplied with the camber plate.



The assembled coilover with dual bearing camber plate looks like this from the side.



And this from the top.



How easy is that? Our next challenge is to make setting coil pre-compresion and ride height before installing the coilovers on your 5th Gen as easy as the assembly.

Setting the pre-compression on the coils is mission critical. Too many installers fail to read the directions because they 'know' how to adjust a coilover. When you lower a car by lowering the spring perch you lose suspension travel and compromise ride quality and handling. Bouncing off the bumpstops is not good in a high speed turn on a track. Let's get it right. Anyone care to watch the video?

Caution: This is a purely technical How-To. Grab an Double espresso before watching.



When you know how to do it right, it really is easy. When we did an install on Glen's 1LE at BlackJack Speed Shop we scaled the car before and after.



First, how great are the straight from the factory weights at each corner of the 1LE!?! Kudos and well done TEAM Chevrolet.

With Glen in the 1LE and a 1/2 tank of fuel the 1LE is track ready at 4131 stock. After adding Pedders 1LE 32mm rear balance bar, radius bushes, sub-frame bushes, front adjustable length endlinks and Pedders Supercar coilovers the 1LE is 5 pounds lighter. The ride height deviation side to side total on the stock coils is 12mm. Setting the coil pre-compresion and ride height as shown in the video the Supercar equipped 1LE has a total ride height deviation of only 3mm.

The front side to side difference in weight is reduced from 34 pounds factory to 21 pounds Pedderised. In the rear the OE difference is 50 pounds and the Pedderised difference is 56 pounds. There is a difference between scaling a car to identify the weight load at each wheel and corner-weighting when we adjust ride heights to balance out the weight at each wheel. We did not have time to corner weight Glen's 1LE.

We did have time to align Glen's 1LE with his dual bearing camber plates. Glen has a conservative daily driver alignment and an aggressive AC / Road Course alignment built in. By loosening four set screws at each of his front camber plates we can drop into street or track mode in a matter of 15 minutes. We added to additional holes to make the plate adjustment easier.



Glen will get them painted so the install looks super clean. Next take a look at the differences between Glen's drive to the track and don't wear out my tires street alignment and his ready to race alignment.



Trackside was add Negative Front Camber and Tow Out. We can add a LOT and then pull it back to the conservative street specs. The next time we work on Glen's 1LE we'll add caster bolts front and camber bolts rear. This will give us a greater range of adjustment to dial his already great handling 1LE in even more.

We hope this post makes you Pedders Coilover and / or Camber Plate Installation easier and more accurate.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:48 AM   #134
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Pete, I already have the Justice package on my '11 SS. Could you PM me price for those adjustable plates? Has Heath done any installs of these at American Muffler? That is who did my install and I would probably go there again. Thx
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:42 PM   #135
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Pete, I already have the Justice package on my '11 SS. Could you PM me price for those adjustable plates? Has Heath done any installs of these at American Muffler? That is who did my install and I would probably go there again. Thx
Heath and Jimmy are on top of the latest and greatest from Pedders. The Dual Bearing Camber Plates are In-Stock and ready to ship.

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Old 05-09-2013, 07:36 AM   #136
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Hi Pete.
The latest additions to the "book" are great. I enjoyed the set-up video for the coilovers. Is this the way the V8 SuperCars on a G8 should also be set for initial spring pre-load?
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The answer is yes. My preferences on the G8 are:

Front 16 Bound (Canister) 16 Rebound (Top of Shaft) from Full hard or Soft

Rear 22 Bound (Canister 10 off Full hard) 16 Rebound (Cable Adjuster from Full hard or Soft)
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I should have gone with Pedders Can I get some kind of discount if I rip out my phase 5 Pfadt suspension and go full Pedders?
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I should have gone with Pedders Can I get some kind of discount if I rip out my phase 5 Pfadt suspension and go full Pedders?
Send me a PM with your phone number.
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Supercar Coilover Upgrade Program????

I wonder if an upgrade program would be of interest to 5th Gen Camaro Owners. Just thinking out loud...

Pedders Xa coilover owners could get a credit of say $750 when upgrading to Supercars. We in turn would inspect the used Xa units and make them available at the exchange credit if they are in working order.

Maybe we could do something similar with other brands?

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does pedders have anyone in the Denver area that you would recommend?
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UPDATE: 5th Gen Camaro Alignment, Bushing Timing and Torque Specifications

The Book of 5th Gen Camaro is getting an update.

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5th Gen Camaro Alignment, Bushing Timing and Torque Specifications

DO NOT USE OFFSET CAMBER BOLTS ON THE 2010 - 2015 5TH GEN CAMARO. The OE clevis bolts are much stronger and the offset bolts are NOT needed with an excellent system installed at the factory.



This is the correct way to adjust front camber on the 5th Gen. One the alignment machine with the clevis bolts loose turning the camber screw tighter (Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey) will push the knuckle away from the strut. Loosening the camber screw allows the knuckle to fall in toward the strut. It is a 10mm 1.5 pitch thread.





It isn't pretty, but it was laying around the shop so we used it. A bolt this large is ONLY for use on the alignment rack and should be removed before driving.



This is a JPSS style Camber Screw. We recommend using LocTite blue to prevent it from backing out. Note that in this picture you can see the upper hole in the factory strut is elongated for camber adjustment.

On the alignment rack, any 10mm 1.5 pitch bolt will do. The correct way is to use a JPSS style Camber Screw with blue LocTite. Your alignment shop may have a T.O.M.C.A.T. Air-Assisted Multiple Camber Adjustment Tool air bag.



It fits between the wheel and the strut and works in the same way as the camber screw. Inflate (Righty Tighty) the bag to push the knuckle away from the strut or deflate (lefty Loosy) the bag to allow the knuckle to fall into the strut. If they don't, they have a guy that can push or pull on the wheel while they tighten it. Never, ever use offset camber bolts on a Camaro. EVER!

JPSS foundation as a company is more than just a range of bits, we are suspension specialists committed to delivering a JPSS Driving Experience. A lowered vehicle should have a full range of alignment adjustments. The Camaro delivers from Chevrolet with a fixed Castor position. The radius arm bolts into round holes with no available adjustment. Front Camber is adjustable from the factory. There is a threaded hole for front Camber Adjustment Bolt / Screw, but no bolt is installed and no part number is listed by Chevrolet. The rear OEM eccentric adjusters for Toe and Camber provide approximately one degree adjustment range. For an alignment specialist, this is unacceptable. You want to get your Camaro perfectly setup. This is what JPSS is all about. Our solution is a set of Black Magic JPSS Alignment Bolts. While GM made the hole round for the front Castor Adjustment or lack thereof, they did weld in brackets for an eccentric to work against. Your local JPSS Dealer can create a slot to provide Caster adjustment with JPSS Camaro Alignment Bolts. The kit provides the front Camber screws that GM didn't.

For the 5th Camaro, GM decided to produce the front sub-frame with only a round hole, but they kept the 'fences' for caster adjustment with eccentric bolts just like the Pontiac G8 and Holden Commodore. The slots to allow adjustment were lost in translation. For a performance driver, a vehicle without full alignment adjustment capability feels like driving with one hand tied behind your back. JPSS made the decision to make the Camaro front suspension fully adjustable.

Stock Radius Bush Mounting area with a round hole and adjustment 'fences'.




In Step #1 the technician may choose to drill two holes, one on either side of the factory hole before grinding a slot shape. Other techs will just grind the slot.



The eccentric that will be used does not reach all the way to the bracket sides so a bit of excess metal is not an issue. The technician can check the clearance with a JPSS Castor Eccentric Bolt as they grind to make sure the fit is JPSS dead nuts on.



We use black chromate plating on our Camber Bolts. We used a gold tone bolt in this image to make it easier to see.

When assembled the plated eccentric allows the alignment technician to increase or decrease Castor. A well aligned Camaro with good tires will not require ANY BIAS in the alignment. Should your Camaro be tweaked and develop a pull the same JPSS Caster Eccentric Bolts can be used to create a bias to correct the pull. We strongly recommend that before you alter your alignment due to a pull that you have a qualified technician, because the machine is only as good as the tech, check your tires on a road force balance machine to make certain the pull is not induced by a tire. When the tires have been confirmed good, we can make adjustments on the alignment rack.

For those that track the 5th Gen Camaro we have created Black Magic Caster Locks. Using a Caster Lock there is no possibility drift under the most demanding driving conditions. Installation of the Caster Locks is very similar. The slot is ground forward toward the radiator.



There are four Caster Lock plates that are installed on both sides of each radius arm bushing. We used a raw bare aluminum plate for this illustration.



Increasing caster improves straight line stability and the return of the wheels to the on center position. Adding caster to the 5th Gen is highly desirable.

Alignments are JPSS core business. We offer the JPSS Black Magic Caster, Rear Camber and Front Camber Screws. When installing the JPSS Front Camber Screw it is essential that you use LocTite Blue. The Camber screw will never bear a load while driving, but we want to make certain they never vibrate out.



JPSS Rear Eccentrics are virtually bullet proof with 1.8 degrees or double the factory adjustment. With the Camaro alignment Kit installed your Camaro can be setup for the drag strip, road course, auto cross or every day flawless driving. Even better, JPSS alignment eccentric bolts carry a unique warranty feature. Should a JPSS eccentric ever fail while you own the vehicle we will replace it. You get a superior alignment, improved driving experience and a life time warranty with JPSS Camaro Alignment Bolts.

To get the aggressive alignments we prefer JPSS Black Magic Camber and Caster Bolts and Camber Screws are essential. They double the adjustment range . We achieve this result my moving the eccentric to the outer edge of the bolt. The eccentrics are cut on a water jet, assembled in a jig and welded. This is a time consuming process. To finish the bolts we have coated in black chromate.




Taking the performance of your 5th Gen and alignment to the next level requires the use of JPSS Knockout Camber Plates. With the stock front struts or coilovers you can achieve -2.2 Degrees of front camber. Relieving the upper slot in the strut to allows it to fall in a bit more will get you to -2.5. When running high negative camber it is Mission Critical to check spacing between the inner tire sidewall and the strut or coilover. We use a standard #2 lead pencil as a gauge. If the pencil passes between the tire and the strut or coilover you are good to go. With JPSS Knockout Plates we suggest you run them full in, maxed out for negative camber. Positioning the strut top well in toward the engine improves SAI. Your 5th Gen will drive better. Final adjust the negative camber at the knuckle using the camber adjustment screw.

JPSS are a Knock Out by design, construction and function. The bearing plates are made of stainless steel. The hardware is stainless steel. Our bearings are the finest made in America available. Of course none of this matters if they are not the most functional in the industry. It starts with a hard mount system. Some 5th Gen Camaro owners will cringe at the thought of drilling six mounting holes in their strut towers, but most will agree it makes sense when they understand why. We don't want it to move. Period. Anything that clamps in place can move on impact with a pothole or gator-back. Bolted in place, the only way to move a JPSS camber plate is to move the entire strut tower.

JPSS Knock Out Camber Plates deliver 2 full degrees of adjustment. Not 1 degree. Not 1 degree split between caster and camber. 2 full degrees. If you want to add caster, and we highly recommend you do, use our Caster Locks or of Caster Bolts. Camber plates on a 5th Gen Camaro are reserved for Camber and Steering Angle Inclination (SAI).

Steering axis inclination acts, with caster, to provide a self-centering of the front wheels. When the wheels are in the straight-ahead position, the ends of the stub axles are almost horizontal. When the wheels turn to either side, the effect of steering axis inclination is to make the ends of the stub axle tend to move downward, but this is prevented by the wheel. The stub axle carrier then must move up, which raises the front of the vehicle. When the steering wheel is released, the mass of the vehicle forces the stub carrier back down, which pushes the wheels back to a central position.



The SAI angle is created and measured in degrees. It runs from the lower ball joint through the upper ball joint, or on most front wheel vehicles, through the center of the strut mount. The illustration uses ball joints to represent the angle. This measurement of degrees includes the measurement from lower ball joint to the upper ball joint or the upper strut mount and true vertical (the tire actually sitting straight up and down). The SAI angle doesn't include the camber angle. This is because Steering Axis Inclination is a non-adjustable angle.

We recommend using the JPSS Knockout Camber Plates to increase SAI and adjust the majority of camber at the knuckle. Combine this with JPSS Caster Locks to achieve optimal front end geometry and handling.





Bushing Timing

Step 1. Lift the car on a two post lift and raise it.

Step 2. Loosen the following bolts/nuts:
Front:
---Inner Control Arm Bushing
---Inner Radius Rod
Rear:
---Trailing Arm Bushings (both ends)
---Toe Rod Bushings (both ends)
---Lower Control Arm Bushings (Inner)
---Upper Control Arm Bushings (Rearward)
---Lower Strut Bushings

Step 3.
Lower the car and drive it around the parking lot SLOWLY and on to the alignment lift.

Step 4.
With the weight of the car on the wheels tighten all of the nuts/bolts to spec.

Step 5.
Align the car at the new ride height.

Alignment

On the alignment rack the technician must be aware that the rear lower control arm camber adjustment works against the toe link toe adjustment. The toe eccentrics should be set to a neutral position, the eccentric not touching the 'fences' when thee initial camber adjustment is made. Then the technician will work the two for the optimal split of camber and toe values.







Front and Rear Bolt Torque Values





NOTE: Torque specifications that read XX torque value and XX degrees are typically Torque to Yield (TTY) and require replacement of the bolt, nut or both. If replacement parts are not available from GM, the minimum acceptable torque will be those values stated along with a liberal application of a thread locker i.e. LocTite
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