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Old 05-10-2013, 05:58 PM   #35
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I would love a set of those, but one of them probably cost as much as all 4 of my RB rotors.
Easily.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:24 PM   #36
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i will be back at racingbrake and will get his best estimate at all the specs. i will report back and start it a group buy discussion. it definatly helps to have a few venders that i trust to be with me


to stig it most likely would be same amount of pistons unless they can work some magic and get it on our rotor size. atleast for me i cant go bigger rotor as i dont want a bigger wheel and more weight that time.

i promise early next week like monday or tuesday i will be down there
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:27 PM   #37
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So is this the only upgrade I would only every need to buy the rb rotors? Or could would getting the 6 piston calipers and rb rotors ever be possible?
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:10 PM   #38
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So is this the only upgrade I would only every need to buy the rb rotors? Or could would getting the 6 piston calipers and rb rotors ever be possible?
Just swapping to RB is a great upgrade to the SS brakes but if you really wanted to step it up you could swap to the ZL1 6 piston Brembos and run RB ZL1 rotors like in this picture.

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I have been extremely happy with them. Next phase in two weeks is to install Pedders suspension components and stainless steel brake lines.
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Will the zl1 6 pistons clear the 19" forgelines?
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:09 PM   #41
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Are these rotors bigger than the stock SS rotors?
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:35 PM   #42
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i will be back at racingbrake and will get his best estimate at all the specs. i will report back and start it a group buy discussion. it definatly helps to have a few venders that i trust to be with me


to stig it most likely would be same amount of pistons unless they can work some magic and get it on our rotor size. atleast for me i cant go bigger rotor as i dont want a bigger wheel and more weight that time.

i promise early next week like monday or tuesday i will be down there
Tell Warren "hi" for me. If his son Mike is still working there, say hi too. I worked with Mike many times while they were using my car to develop the rotors a few years ago. If you scroll to the bottom of the page on their website for the rotors, they're still using pics of my car.

http://www.racingbrake.com/CAMARO-SS...-11-p/2138.htm

All the RB team are absolutely first class. Great to work with and very professional.
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haha ya i saw the pic on their site a few months ago and recognized the blue car with those yellow wheels from your build thread.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:45 AM   #44
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Will the zl1 6 pistons clear the 19" forgelines?
Hmmm let me think real hard. Did anyone ever run the Forgeline 19s with CTS-V six pots. Damn... I know some one did.

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Pedders is committed to being a strong supporting member of the 5th gen community. When we needed a brake upgrade for our Camaro we looked everywhere and came right back to the GM parts bin. It took a while, but we sorted it out and found what we believe to be the most cost effective and perhaps best brake solution for the Camaro. If I ran GM -- and I don't I know what I would do for better Camaro brakes. I would use THE CADILLAC OF BRAKES for the Camaro -- CTS-V BRAKES.



These are the same brakes that set a record on the Ring with John Heinricy behind the wheel of s CTS-V as the fastest production sedan to run the ring.



The CTS-V is a bit heavier than the Camaro making the setup PERFECT. This is a bolt on project that requires only the front dust shield be trimmed to fit the over-sized six piston front caliper. Everything is performance / track ready to go. The pads are perfect out of the box. They are also Cadillac quiet. The front calipers do require different bolts. All the parts are supposed to be available front the GM parts bin, but we did have some delays in collecting everything we needed. Arthur at Witt Buick Pedders did a great job of getting all the bits pulled together for me.




This is a HUGE upgrade for the Camaro. Take a close look at the calipers and pads. The superior clamping from six pistons combined with a much larger pad and rotor work to PERFECTION with the master cylinder and computer.







The rotors are very different up front. These are dual cast from Brembo with an aluminum hat / center and iron rotor. Even though the new Cadillac rotors are larger and thicker, they weigh the same as the OEM SS Camaro rotors.






Trimming the front dust shield was straight forward. How can any modification (unless it is Pedders made to fit just like the OEM bits we replace) be complete without sparks from a cutting wheel?





The brake upgrade is 100% OEM CTS-V with the exception of Pedders Camaro Brake Lines. You can see our brake lines fit and mount just like OEM. Why is Pedders doing brake lines for the 2010 Camaro? Great question. When we built our Camaro we couldn't find them in the aftermarket so we took matters into our own hands. PDUSACAM2800 https://secure.merlinsoftware.com.au...0&Featured=Yes




The rear Cadillac CTS-V caliper is the same as the Camaro SS rear caliper. The only difference is color. We did try to rear CTS-V and found the hat offset is a bit different, but the OEM Camaro SS rotor is a perfect match.



Here they are, THE Cadillac of Brakes of the 2010 Camaro.





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Rear After



Front Before



Front After






When you do a conversion like this it is critical that the entire brake system be bled including the ABD computer. We connected the new USB based GM scan tool and could not find a full bleed program. We connected a Tech I scan tool, selected 2010 Corvette and found a functional solution. With everything completed we did on more safety check and went out for a road test. Working with Witt Buick Pedders means we have access to everything we need including a 'private' area to bed the brakes. 60 to 20, 80 to 20 and 100 to 20 and the brakes are bedded.

How do they feel -- jut like a Cadillac CTS-V. Are they better than the SS brakes -- OH YEAH!!! Now the tough question, how do you get a set. We are posting this for the benefit of the Camaro community. Witt Buick Pedders put in a tremendous amount of effort to secure all the bits and do the install. Little things like finding the right way to bleed the brakes take a lot of time. The rear rotors from the CTS-V don't fit and son on. They have earned the right to at least have the opportunity to make a parts sale.

Keeping the community in mind, you already know that a complete set of CTS-V brakes will fit and what you need to order short of the parts list. Your creative and can source that on the Internet. If you would like to order a turn key kit you can call Arthur at Witt Buick Pedders (231) 722-3771 for $3,400 including the Pedders SS lines.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:58 AM   #45
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I'm still waiting on Z28 brake info.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:16 AM   #46
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Will the zl1 6 pistons clear the 19" forgelines?
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Are these rotors bigger than the stock SS rotors?
The SS rotors are direct replacements that can be used with your stock calipers.

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I'm still waiting on Z28 brake info.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:12 AM   #47
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People say the same thing about the corvette parts. All it tells me is they don't know how to use a parts fiche or the internet, nothing about the brakes.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:21 PM   #48
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People say the same thing about the corvette parts. All it tells me is they don't know how to use a parts fiche or the internet, nothing about the brakes.
We know more than you would expect at this point. The rotors are C6 Vette rotors with Camaro specific hats. Seeing the car at the press debut it appears the calipers are Vette too.

The brake ABS calibration on the 1LE is tuned to the semi-square wheel and tire setup. We expect that cal to be refined for the Z/28 305/30/19. The cal for the Z/28 has to be spot on. The array of pads that can be used with the CC rotors is limited. With our OPTIMA Camaros we pad tune and under extreme breaking conditions still find ourselves in Ice Mode. We haven't found the same issue in the 1LE. That is another win for TEAM Camaro.

The next step is flashing 10/11/12 models tear 5th Gens with the 1LE ABS Cal.
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I'd be even happier if I could just turn it off. A shame they don't offer it as a selectable mode on these cars.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #50
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We know more than you would expect at this point. The rotors are C6 Vette rotors with Camaro specific hats. Seeing the car at the press debut it appears the calipers are Vette too.
I KNEW it, hahaha. Gotta love parts sharing. Any idea if the hubs are any different from those of the 1LE to alter caliper offset/center line? I'm fine with finding some cheap vette calipers and powdercoating them if they'd bolt on with dust shield trimming. I'm sure the Z28 tax for the sticker will be crazy, kinda like the ZL1 over CTSV calipers.
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #51
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ok i have to ask. Mr Pete...what the heck is a pad tune? I am experiencing my brakes and tires overpowering my abs system. sucks to leave so much useful rubber at the end of every straight.
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