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Old 05-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #51
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ok i have to ask. Mr Pete...what the heck is a pad tune? I am experiencing my brakes and tires overpowering my abs system. sucks to leave so much useful rubber at the end of every straight.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:58 PM   #52
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Just swapping to RB is a great upgrade to the SS brakes but if you really wanted to step it up you could swap to the ZL1 6 piston Brembos and run RB ZL1 rotors like in this picture.

What would be better for track days. SS brake calipers with RB rotors which I have now or ZL1 upgraded calipers with OE rotors like I plan for my 1LE?
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I KNEW it, hahaha. Gotta love parts sharing. Any idea if the hubs are any different from those of the 1LE to alter caliper offset/center line? I'm fine with finding some cheap vette calipers and powdercoating them if they'd bolt on with dust shield trimming. I'm sure the Z28 tax for the sticker will be crazy, kinda like the ZL1 over CTSV calipers.
I think Chevy is smart to leverage the brand equity in the ZL1 and the Z/28. I call the PUSA Camaro a SS-V ;-)
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So, I have had my RacingBrake 2 piece rotors for a few weeks now. I just finished a 2 day track event on the Roval (road course) at Fontana or ACS. This road course features the front NASCAR straight and NASCAR turns 1 and 2 and a road course in the midfield. One day was scorching hot in the high 90's, not exactly brake friendly weather.

The braking needed to stop my 2 ton car from the straight after NASCAR 2 into turn 3 and 4 is massive. I was hitting 165-170 on the front NASCAR straight and hitting 150+ on the banked turns one and two. I needed to brake hard and brake fast to get the 90 degree left and then quick 90 degree right of turn 3 and 4. The RacingBrake rotors were up to the task. I was out braking cars that cost more than my house including Porsche, GTR, Boss 302, SuperSnakes, Saleens, Rousch and many other mustangs. Sadly the ZR1 and Z06 were also incapable of out braking me. NO BRAKE FADE!!!!! Ohhh yeah forgot to add I was out braking and driving these cars that should be whooping me with one useable arm and an automatic in Sport mode....no shifting. That means zero engine braking. Did I mention NO BRAKE FADE?!?!?!?!

Saying I out brake expensive cars is enough but that's not the whole story. The weight lost made my car quicker to accelerate, easier to turn in and even easier to brake combined with the improved braking performance of the rotors themselves. Quicker car and again NO BRAKE FADE...absolutely none.

The 2 piece rotors aren't just some sandcasted junk. They are built right with a dimpled slot and small holes in the slot to let gas and dust escape while helping dealing with heat. They are not just the run of the mill drilled/slotted rotors where they are sandcasted then drilled by machine which weakens the entire rotor and leads to cracking. The are machined and built with with dimple and holes in them so the hardness and rigidity of the metal is not compromised by the drill.

For you car show types these rotors are built right and will attract attention where ever you go. They will not have that unsightly rust that the oem and many other aftermarket rotors have. For the weight savings guys I lost 23 pounds of unsprung and rotational mass when it was all installed....for the MPG guys that means better fuel mileage as well. It really is the end all be all rotor for EVERY type of driver for our cars

RacingBrake are THE American made brake experts. Rotors, Pads, Caliper rebuild kits, and forged calipers for many vehicles.

I am trying to get enough interest in our community so they will build lightweight forged and very very pretty calipers for us. Beg, plead, and ask for light weight and beautiful calipers to go with their beautiful light weight rotors here 714-871-6392 or http://www.racingbrake.com/. Tell them Blake with silver camaro sent you and they will know what you want! I have been down to their shop and watched my rotors be assembled and browsed their isles and isles of pads and rotors and calipers and caliper rebuild kits....its like brake disney land.

Here a few pics of them testing the hardness of the rotor, assembling the 2 piece rotor, one pic of the rotor on my car with dirty and burned oem caliper, and the last is the rotor shining from behind my wheels.
These along with my light a$$$ Enkei Reijin 19x9.5 22.8lbs rims will really make my front end happy as well as my steering system along with camper plates and other supporting mods already in place. Thanks for the review I was on the fence about these rotors.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:05 PM   #55
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So, I have had my RacingBrake 2 piece rotors for a few weeks now. I just finished a 2 day track event on the Roval (road course) at Fontana or ACS. This road course features the front NASCAR straight and NASCAR turns 1 and 2 and a road course in the midfield. One day was scorching hot in the high 90's, not exactly brake friendly weather.

The braking needed to stop my 2 ton car from the straight after NASCAR 2 into turn 3 and 4 is massive. I was hitting 165-170 on the front NASCAR straight and hitting 150+ on the banked turns one and two. I needed to brake hard and brake fast to get the 90 degree left and then quick 90 degree right of turn 3 and 4. The RacingBrake rotors were up to the task. I was out braking cars that cost more than my house including Porsche, GTR, Boss 302, SuperSnakes, Saleens, Rousch and many other mustangs. Sadly the ZR1 and Z06 were also incapable of out braking me. NO BRAKE FADE!!!!! Ohhh yeah forgot to add I was out braking and driving these cars that should be whooping me with one useable arm and an automatic in Sport mode....no shifting. That means zero engine braking. Did I mention NO BRAKE FADE?!?!?!?!

Saying I out brake expensive cars is enough but that's not the whole story. The weight lost made my car quicker to accelerate, easier to turn in and even easier to brake combined with the improved braking performance of the rotors themselves. Quicker car and again NO BRAKE FADE...absolutely none.

The 2 piece rotors aren't just some sandcasted junk. They are built right with a dimpled slot and small holes in the slot to let gas and dust escape while helping dealing with heat. They are not just the run of the mill drilled/slotted rotors where they are sandcasted then drilled by machine which weakens the entire rotor and leads to cracking. The are machined and built with with dimple and holes in them so the hardness and rigidity of the metal is not compromised by the drill.

For you car show types these rotors are built right and will attract attention where ever you go. They will not have that unsightly rust that the oem and many other aftermarket rotors have. For the weight savings guys I lost 23 pounds of unsprung and rotational mass when it was all installed....for the MPG guys that means better fuel mileage as well. It really is the end all be all rotor for EVERY type of driver for our cars

RacingBrake are THE American made brake experts. Rotors, Pads, Caliper rebuild kits, and forged calipers for many vehicles.

I am trying to get enough interest in our community so they will build lightweight forged and very very pretty calipers for us. Beg, plead, and ask for light weight and beautiful calipers to go with their beautiful light weight rotors here 714-871-6392 or http://www.racingbrake.com/. Tell them Blake with silver camaro sent you and they will know what you want! I have been down to their shop and watched my rotors be assembled and browsed their isles and isles of pads and rotors and calipers and caliper rebuild kits....its like brake disney land.

Here a few pics of them testing the hardness of the rotor, assembling the 2 piece rotor, one pic of the rotor on my car with dirty and burned oem caliper, and the last is the rotor shining from behind my wheels.
Just wait till you get steel braided lines on that bad boy, let's say you better be wearing a seat belt or windshield here I come.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:08 PM   #56
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Just wait till you get steel braided lines on that bad boy, let's say you better be wearing a seat belt or windshield here I come.
I will have them on my car (the one in the above picture) in about 11 days! Those and a bunch of other suspension mods all at once!
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:26 PM   #57
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Tell Warren "hi" for me. If his son Mike is still working there, say hi too. I worked with Mike many times while they were using my car to develop the rotors a few years ago. If you scroll to the bottom of the page on their website for the rotors, they're still using pics of my car.

http://www.racingbrake.com/CAMARO-SS...-11-p/2138.htm

All the RB team are absolutely first class. Great to work with and very professional.
If that was your car on there site then why are the front rims yellow and .........Oh wait a minute you have yellow wheels too .
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:35 PM   #58
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Just wait till you get steel braided lines on that bad boy, let's say you better be wearing a seat belt or windshield here I come.
i have a six point harness and stainless steel brake lines
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Old 05-12-2013, 01:02 AM   #59
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You and a few others based on my PM inbox.
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You and a few others based on my PM inbox.
hahaha i hope to have your support with my quest for lightweight forged calipers as well. Please PM me your contact info and I will pass it on as proof of a vendor who can sell the new product. I will be there monday god willing
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hahaha i hope to have your support with my quest for lightweight forged calipers as well. Please PM me your contact info and I will pass it on as proof of a vendor who can sell the new product. I will be there monday god willing
All you should need to do is drop our name, we have been with Racing Brake for a few years now. They have all our info.
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so as long as my VA appointment doesnt turn into a 4 hour nightmare (50-50 chance) I will squeeze in a trip to fullerton as long as the boss is at the office for racingbrake. if anyone has requests for photos of some of their products let me know.


i will be taking pics of a caliper thats the closets to ours they already have wih shots of the pistons etc. Get a best guesstimate of weight and other figures.
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"Total weight of one caliper loaded with pads & adapters = 10.3 lbs.
Total weight of one OE caliper loaded with pads = 10.8 lbs" --RB

that another half a pound a corner plus upgraded pistons and much better heat management not to mention much stronger. no more dust boots to fry because the piston is machined correctly. 2 allen or hex bolts to remove and pad swap. they sent me pictures but i cant view on phone.

i will respond via email or phone shortly while waiting for doctor.
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pictures of the calipers in different colors...you can barely see the pistons in a couple of the calipers...no more dust boot because the piston is machined correctly and makes dust boot obsolete.
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Did you ask about 6 pots?
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Did you ask about 6 pots?

shit I will ask if they can get 6 pistons on our rotor....i am pretty sure they can make one for the zl1/ctsv rotor size if they arent making it already
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pictures of the calipers in different colors...you can barely see the pistons in a couple of the calipers...no more dust boot because the piston is machined correctly and makes dust boot obsolete.
Soooo how do I get a set of these gorgeous calipers?
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shit I will ask if they can get 6 pistons on our rotor....i am pretty sure they can make one for the zl1/ctsv rotor size if they arent making it already

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Here are some Q&A re dust boots.

Q: Why do my caliper boots keep burning down on me after track events?

A: Because OE boots are not made for high heat environment so they can easily get melted under high temperature operation.


Q: Do I have to replace them?

A: Every component serves its purpose. The boot can shield the "heat" from getting into your brake system and ‘brake dust” to your pressure seals. Ignoring them can lead to more replacement in brake fluid, and down time in caliper rebuild.


Q: I heard some members suggested just leave it, by referring to most racing calipers don't even come with dust boots, is this a valid recommendation?

A: I can’t verify how true that is (racing calipers don't have dust boot) but keep in mind that those professional racers are racing for their sponsors, so they absolutely don’t have to care for the maintenance & replacement cost like you guys. It's also conceivable that those calipers are specifically made for racing purpose, by eliminating dust boot feature means cutting down the development cost and time.


Q: Is there a way to get around so the brake dust can be shielded but w/o having to watch out for replacement.

A: RB calipers are designed with “built-in” dust seal which eliminates the replacement headaches.


Q: How does your dust seal compare to OE dust boots for durability and installation.

A: Our dust seals literally never need replacement unlike boots type which requires constant replacements; installation is much easier than boots if ever needed.
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Soooo how do I get a set of these gorgeous calipers?
I talked to them and they said it looks like there is enough interest. I will be down there again in a couple days for other stuff and will sit down with a pen and paper and ask all the questions i can think of plus ones from everyone else.

without price I do not know If i can start up a group buy thread...I will continue to work on it.
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You don't need to do a group buy thread. Just make an interest thread.
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a good read comparing there stuff to others and explaining some of the improvements.

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/bi...advantages.asp

the price one has me smiling....even tho its not our cars
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Soo you mean this thread?
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