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Old 04-17-2013, 08:47 PM   #76
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Nathan did you plan on upgrading with 1LE hubs or stay stock until they crap out, thats my plan at least.
There's a difference? I always thought a hubs a hub...what makes the 1le ones better?
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:13 PM   #77
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I have been following along with this thread, as well as your others, and am simply amazed with the amount of effort you are putting into this car. I really hope that once finished it performs to your satisfaction, or beyond, and stays in one piece. Because if not, well, I do not even want to think about that.

You certainly take, "Do it right the first time", to a WHOLE new level and I am proud that you chose the Camaro platform to do it with.

Keep up the good work, as I know you will, and I can not wait to see this car out on the track. I sure hope Road America is on your "Bucket List" because I would love to be there when you experience that track.

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Awesome. Hats off to your knowledge, skill, and attention to detail. The car is going to be spectacular.
Thnaks guys for the props but I can't take all the credits as my brother has been working on the car just as hard as I have. There's a lot of work a head of us to make it to SEMA and there's no way I can do it all myself. Wish us luck.

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Nathan did you plan on upgrading with 1LE hubs or stay stock until they crap out, thats my plan at least.
Synner you know me by now that I will upgrade pretty much anything that can be. Heck, I'm upgrading stuff on the engine thats already upgraded and it hasn't even started yet I didn't realize though that the 1LE hubs are different. Is that your understanding?

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Looks great Nathan. I have done this same work on many Camaros. In my experience I have found a press works great on most of the bushing removal and a large sledge hammer will break apart and knock out the large sub-frame bushings.
Thanks Chris! I did use a press for every bushing except the sub, those were the ones that were a PITA. Hows your KILLER project coming along?

This is a really quick update as I'm beat.

Got the last ARP order today. Unfortunately two of the three sets on back order are the bolts for the Hammerhead and the 1.7" inch stud kit for a HEMI oil pan. I was going to see if I could use the stud kit instead of the bolts for the Hammerhead but neither came in. This delays me from sending the unit back to Frank at DSS for final assembly .

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:18 PM   #78
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1LE hubs have larger stronger bearings....
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:26 PM   #79
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LOL, time for another upgrade!!!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:41 PM   #80
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***WARNING!!!, If you are OCD, DO NOT ENTER!!! Or enter at your own risk. What you see here, you will want to attempt on your own car and create large deficits to your bank account. You might also experience a level of inferiority, but this is not our intent, due to our own OCD. Thank you for watching...***

OMG Dude!!! I totally regret clicking on this thread, I now have to find a second job to get some of the stuff you're doing on my car when I get it.

Seriously though, very amazing what you and your brothers are accomplishing. The information you are sharing is priceless. I come from a machining background and can appreciate the hard work you and your brothers are doing and the level of detail is outstanding. I'm definitely subscribed to your future activities.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:26 PM   #81
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There's a difference? I always thought a hubs a hub...what makes the 1le ones better?
Its the bearings, they're larger on the 1LE/ZL1 to handle lateral loads found in racing with sticky tires.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:32 PM   #82
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Synner you know me by now that I will upgrade pretty much anything that can be. Heck, I'm upgrading stuff on the engine thats already upgraded and it hasn't even started yet I didn't realize though that the 1LE hubs are different. Is that your understanding?
I'm just lookin out for ya, I know how much you love that credit card. I sure hope you get frequent flyer miles as you can travel around the world a few times once you're done. Although you may want to actually drive the car for a bit.

After just cleaning those up I would leave them in until they go bad. When you start to hear them ticking or have side to side play swap them out.
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In the 70's NASA published a concept of operations that describes how they will complete a project with the technology of that day. Otherwise they would have never finished a project. Imaging what cool parts might come from the 2014 Z28? I prefer the run it til it breaks theory. I'm with Synner.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:26 PM   #84
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Imaging what cool parts might come from the 2014 Z28?
Definitely brakes; the torque sensing helical gear diff is very interesting. Wondering how hard the retrofit for that would be on the electronics side...
I'm too poor to figure that one out, hey Nathan wanna be the guinea pig?
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:00 AM   #85
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You should post a warning for all your threads -

***WARNING!!!, If you are OCD, DO NOT ENTER!!! Or enter at your own risk. What you see here, you will want to attempt on your own car and create large deficits to your bank account. You might also experience a level of inferiority, but this is not our intent, due to our own OCD. Thank you for watching...***

OMG Dude!!! I totally regret clicking on this thread, I now have to find a second job to get some of the stuff you're doing on my car when I get it.

Seriously though, very amazing what you and your brothers are accomplishing. The information you are sharing is priceless. I come from a machining background and can appreciate the hard work you and your brothers are doing and the level of detail is outstanding. I'm definitely subscribed to your future activities.
Thanks Bad!!! Your post had got to be the post of post! Thanks for the props, Justin, Seth and I really appreciate it!

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In the 70's NASA published a concept of operations that describes how they will complete a project with the technology of that day. Otherwise they would have never finished a project. Imaging what cool parts might come from the 2014 Z28? I prefer the run it til it breaks theory. I'm with Synner.
I agree, the Z/28 is going to be a KILLER piece of machinery. I think it will helps us all build better cars.

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Old 04-27-2013, 09:03 PM   #86
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Thanks Bad!!! Your post had got to be the post of post! Thanks for the props, Justin, Seth and I really appreciate it!



Thanks Bro I now you have my back, LOL



I agree, the Z/28 is going to be a KILLER piece of machinery. I think it will helps us all build better cars.

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This was a easy install. The pictures are pretty self explanatory.

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Bro, your other thread is killing me. I have now gone to wanting performance parts to making my engine look great. your making me spend money damnit! lol
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Bro, your other thread is killing me. I have now gone to wanting performance parts to making my engine look great. your making me spend money damnit! lol
Driyac, sorry Bro, I'm taking Bad@ss recommendation to put warnings on future threads ***WARNING!!!, If you are OCD, DO NOT ENTER!!! LOL

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Another easy mod following Pfadt's instructions.

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The green lock-tie gives you about eight minutes to work so you need to work somewhat quickly.

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Spread it evening but not to much. After installing the bushing, you will install the ring on the other side of the bushing just as a safe keeper. (sorry didn't take pis installing the ring)

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Another piece of ART to compliment G5.R

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Nice, I'm curious how noisy they will be.
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Nice, I'm curious how noisy they will be.
Now that he's gutting almost the whole car I doubt he'll notice due to the dull roar coming from everywhere.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:18 PM   #91
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Nice, I'm curious how noisy they will be.
Shouldn't get much noise from using the street spherical kit. That kit is specifically designed with a plastic outer race that acts as a no-deflection material which gives a similar performance to our spherical race setup, but without any maintenance needed to reduce noise. Simply put, they won't squeak or anything like that and its designed to minimize vibration transfer.

To the OP. What an amazing build you're doing. I think I speak for everyone over here when I say that seeing our products on your build is a true compliment. You've got some talent, keep up the good work!
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:28 AM   #92
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Shouldn't get much noise from using the street spherical kit. That kit is specifically designed with a plastic outer race that acts as a no-deflection material which gives a similar performance to our spherical race setup, but without any maintenance needed to reduce noise. Simply put, they won't squeak or anything like that and its designed to minimize vibration transfer.

To the OP. What an amazing build you're doing. I think I speak for everyone over here when I say that seeing our products on your build is a true compliment. You've got some talent, keep up the good work!
I'm glad you commented on that! I didn't realize that there was a difference. That will be the finshing touch to my suspension upgrade!
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:31 AM   #93
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Another piece of ART to compliment G5.R
Too bad it won't stay looking like that forever... Nice work!
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:27 AM   #94
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Now that he's gutting almost the whole car I doubt he'll notice due to the dull roar coming from everywhere.

Haha, from everywhere
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Nice, I'm curious how noisy they will be.

What Synner said.....

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Shouldn't get much noise from using the street spherical kit. That kit is specifically designed with a plastic outer race that acts as a no-deflection material which gives a similar performance to our spherical race setup, but without any maintenance needed to reduce noise. Simply put, they won't squeak or anything like that and its designed to minimize vibration transfer.

To the OP. What an amazing build you're doing. I think I speak for everyone over here when I say that seeing our products on your build is a true compliment. You've got some talent, keep up the good work!
Thanks Blair, got some more parts from Pfadt this week

Quick update: Flat trunk floor and diffuser tunnel.

We are working on making a flat trunk floor and a tunnel thats going to cut through the carbon fiber ZL1 rear diffuser. This will give a better view of the rear end and all the trick Pfadt parts, as well as improve aero.

Started by taking measurement and studying what we were going to remove and modify.

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The first step was to remove the spot welds on the cross bar.


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Next we cut off the lower section of the cross panel.


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And finally......

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Next came cutting out the pan

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You can see the mock-up board in the trunk we will be making to use as a template.

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Next we drilled through the spot welds to free up the trunk pan from the rear panel.

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With the trunk panel free, we will bend it upwards to fill in the gap.......kinda hard to explain but you'll get a better idea tomorrow when I post more pics.

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Next we trimmed a portion of what will make up the rear tunnel.

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The blue tape shows how much will be coming off.

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I weighed the parts that we cut off and total 18 lbs. by the time we are done, we will probably lose 22 lbs. I'm thing we will add 5-10 lbs. back for a total loss of approx 12-17 lbs. We are also making a custom made rear bumper which should be at least half the weight of the OEM.
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Thanks Blair, got some more parts from Pfadt this week

Quick update: Flat trunk floor and diffuser tunnel.

We are working on making a flat trunk floor and a tunnel thats going to cut through the carbon fiber ZL1 rear diffuser. This will give a better view of the rear end and all the trick Pfadt parts, as well as improve aero.

Started by taking measurement and studying what we were going to remove and modify.


The first step was to remove the spot welds on the cross bar.

It was easier to cut the side first since some of the spot welds would be hard to reach.

Next we cut off the lower section of the cross panel.


Next we drilled through the spot welds to free up the trunk pan from the rear panel.

I weighed the parts that we cut off and total 18 lbs. by the time we are done, we will probably lose 22 lbs. I'm thing we will add 5-10 lbs. back for a total loss of approx 12-17 lbs. We are also making a custom made rear bumper which should be at least half the weight of the OEM.

Not that you need the help, but I know Hennesseygrv, the guy with the white/ carbon fiber hennessey that lives in texas, cut up and relocated his trunk pan area when he ran his center exhaust. One of his threads had a bunch of pics of what they had to do if you need any more ideas.

Lookin great!
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Not that you need the help, but I know Hennesseygrv, the guy with the white/ carbon fiber Hennessy that lives in Texas, cut up and relocated his trunk pan area when he ran his center exhaust. One of his threads had a bunch of pics of what they had to do if you need any more ideas.

Lookin great!
Hey Vroomapunk, thanks for the suggestion! I really appreciate it as I get ideas from everyone here.

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Sweet cant wait to see more!
Ask and you shall receive, LOL...


Part II of the trunk remolding!

Justin and I got a lot of work done today.

Picked up where we left off yesterday by finishing the removal of what was left of the cross bar.

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Next, we cleaned up some knick-knacks that we'll no longer have a need for.... We'll also be cleaning all the crappy seams.

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Next, we cleaned the factory pinch welds of any excess.

Before.....

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Man, I don't even know how to describe why we were doing what we were doing in the next two pictures... we will just say it was necessary and it fell under the category.... work.

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Here, you can see part of the bath tub taper down. We needed it to be flat so it will meet with the new filler panel.

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By creating some relief cuts, it allowed us to pull it up.

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I need a hair cut, LOL...

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And here is the final results....... For someone OCD like myself, I couldn't be happier. It came out really nice! The best part is that we removed 24 lbs. I'm also making a rear bumper out of aluminum that should drop another 20 lbs. In total, I think we will be down about 40 lbs!

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Once we are done with the inside of the trunk, we are going to spray the entire trunk with spatter paint playing homage to the first gen Camaros.

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Next step will be to finish the filler panel. I'm having a friend of mine bead roll the logo "G5.R" in the center of the filler panel.
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side note: I definitely see where the Camaro team got the inspiration for the 14 and up taillights w/o your taillights in. They just filled in the whole section
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Here, you can see part of the bath tub taper down. We needed it to be flat so it will meet with the new filler panel.

This would be the perfect space to install the Getrag Transaxle into...

Might as well tub-out the wheelhouses while you're under there...
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