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Old 05-14-2013, 10:58 AM   #18
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While this thread started out very positive, it's going to end very negative. While my tests with a few test mp3 files worked just fine, after copying several thousand files to the flash drive, nothing will play. "No supported data found"

I started searching, and someone posted that the radio does not support special characters in file names. Mine had parenthesis, hyphens, spaces, etc. Someone else wrote that the radio does not support file names with more than 100 characters in the name. Some of mine had up to 137. So I mounted on the flash drive on a Linux machine and wrote the following Perl script to rename all the files, remove the special characters, and truncate the length of the files to 80 characters:

#!/usr/bin/perl

# rename all music files on a thumb drive to a format
# compatible with the 2011 Camaro radio format.

# where the USB drive gets mounted:
$basedir="/media/CAMARO/music";

# length of file names to truncate to (takes last N characters):
$lengthlimit=80;

chdir($basedir);
@allfiles=`find . -type f -print`;

$maxlength=0;
$renamed=0;

$count=$#allfiles;


for $i (0 .. $count)
{
$file=$allfiles[$i];
$file=~ s/\.\///;
$file=~ s/\n//;
$newfile=$file;
if ($file=~ /.*[A-Za-z0-9]mp3/) #missing .mp3
{
$tempfile=$newfile;
$tempfile=~ s/mp3$//;
$newfile="${tempfile}.mp3";
}
$newfile=~ s/\s/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\~/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\!/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\#/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\$/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\%/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\^/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\&/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\*/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\(/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\)/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\-/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\=/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\\/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\|/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\[/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\]/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\{/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\}/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\;/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\:/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\'/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\"/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\</_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\>/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\,/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\?/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\`/_/g;
$file=~ s/\`/\\\`/g;
$mylength=length($newfile);

if ($mylength > $maxlength)
{
$maxlength=$mylength;
$maxname=$newfile;
}

if ($mylength > $lengthlimit)
{
$pos=$mylength - $lengthlimit -1;
print "mylength=$mylength, lengthlimit=$lengthlimit, pos=$pos\n";
$tempname=substr($newfile, $pos);
print "truncating $newfile to $tempname\n";
$newfile=$tempname;
}

if (!("$file" eq $newfile))
{
print "$i: renaming $file to $newfile \n";
system ("mv \"$file\" $newfile");
$renamed++;
print "------------------------------------------------------\n";
}
}

print "\n----------------------------------------------------------\n";
print "\ndone!\n";
print "\n#of files renamed: $renamed\n";

----------------------------------------------------------------

Thinking it will work now, I insert the drive into the car. No supported data found. The cussing begins. Back to searching. someone else posted that they thought the max file length was 32 characters. Again, why can't we get an explicit declaration from GM??? So fine, I write another perl script to rename every song to song1.mp3, song2.mp3 ... songN.mp3:

#!/usr/bin/perl

# where the USB drive gets mounted:
$basedir="/media/CAMARO/music";

chdir($basedir);
@allfiles=`find . -type f -print`;

$renamed=0;

$count=$#allfiles;


for $i (0 .. $count)
{
$file=$allfiles[$i];
$file=~ s/\.\///;
$file=~ s/\n//;
$newfile="song${i}.mp3";

print "$i: renaming $file to $newfile \n";
system ("mv \"$file\" $newfile");
$renamed++;
print "------------------------------------------------------\n";
}

print "\n----------------------------------------------------------\n";
print "\ndone!\n";
print "\n#of files renamed: $renamed\n";


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It has to work now, right? Wrong!!! No supported data found. More searching. Posts say that the radio only supports certain bit rates, like 128Kbps, but my tests were with 256kbps mp3's and they worked. Again, GM WHERE IS THE LIST OF SUPPORTED FORMATS???

Even if I can determine what bit rates work, there is no way I am going though all of my songs, checking the bit rate, and re-encoding them to a supported bit rate. I'm about to give up and subscribe to SiriusXM.

As a programmer, what disgusts me is the (lack of) error handling in this GM radio. If they only support certain formats that is fine, but if they encounter a song they cannot play, they should simply skip over that song and go onto the next one, not invalidate the entire drive!!!! If I had access to the source code I could fix it myself, but I probably have better odds of getting hit by lightning than for that to happen.

I have always loved Chevrolet, but that love is fading fast because of this.
No documentation on supported formats in the owner's manual or the GM web site, very limited mp3 support, yet I can download Winamp for FREE that will play almost any mp3 on the planet. GM, you blew it on this one.

OK, I can personally vouch and say that the radio fully supports 320kbps quality and is allowed to have common special characters like dashes in the FILENAME. The radio identifies and sorts the MP3s based off of the ID3 tags, NOT the filenames. The only limitation I have come across is the ID3 tag version. If you try to use some of the newer versions, it will not work. Try dropping the ID3 tag version down to 1.0 or 1.1 (cannot remember). If you have your self a Linux box (right on!), EasyTag is a good app to do this with. I've been where you are already, so I know exactly what you are experiencing. It's the ID3 tags bro, not the filenames.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:18 PM   #19
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Thanks for all of the good information! I'm still fighting with the stupid USB trying to get a 2GB flash drive and a couple dozen MP3s to work. I've tried every combination of format and cluster size, and no luck so far.

To whoever mentioned NTFS, I wasn't able to get the system to recognize NTFS no matter what I tried. Using Fat32 with various combinations of cluster size I was at least able to get it to tell me no supported data found, so I'm thinking NTFS is out (unless there was a firmware update on the radio I'm missing).

Tried eliminating all variables from the filenames and still nothing (I have 2 folders now, labeled "1" and "2" with songs named "1.mp3" through "12.mp3" in each, and still nothing.

I was wondering if the fact that they are 320kbps may have mattered, but sounds like at least some people were able to get that working.

Good info on the ID3 tags, I'll have to check on that and see if it makes a difference.

I get the feeling there may also be some variations in the radio firmware. I know there was at least one TSB that involved replacing the PDIM module and flashing the firmware. The instructions on the TSB to check the software version don't want to work on mine, so I'm thinking a trip to the dealer is in my near future.

What a pain...
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:32 PM   #20
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My car came without a USB port so I bought an Android based head unit. That was OK up to 16GB SD and USB drives, but I wanted FLAC capability as well as to use any kind of drive or file format.

I got fed up and built a windows 8 PC for the dash, and now have both 64G and 265G SSD's and can transfer songs over the home WiFi or buy directly from Amazon onto the car.

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Old 05-14-2013, 06:54 PM   #21
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Just an update, I finally got it to play for the first time. Apparently not all USB drives are created equal. I was testing using a 2GB flash drive by a noname manufacturer (branded with another company's logo and given away at trade shows) and that was at least part of my problem.

Tried out an old 1GB Lexar I had laying around and it worked perfectly (FAT32, 16KB clusters). Doing some additional testing with filenames and ID3 tags, but it's worth noting that at least some USB drives simply will not work.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:11 PM   #22
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I don't own 10,922 songs!
Then you need to visit this link and get your archive up "http://www.albumhunt.com/linkarchive.html"
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:41 PM   #23
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I bought a Kingston 64GB off Amazon for $35, it worked great until I took it it to work to folder all of my music but in the process we had a commercial power failure at work & the PC I was using was not on a UPS so needless to say it wiped out this thumb drive. I sent it back to Amazon for a full refund & used that money to get a Sandisk 64GB @ Walmart for the same price & was able to get 9422 songs on it so far without any problems of it not being recognized by the audio system in my Camaro.

I tried two other drives one of which was another Sandisk 64GB but it's not being recognized whereas the Adata 32 GB does get recognized. The 32 GB will be my next source of music when I run out of room on the first Sandisk.

Btw, I downloaded a free program on the internet that converts just about any music format(YouTube, CD-cda, etc) to MP3 format then I burn the MP3's to the flash drive.

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Old 01-26-2014, 11:44 AM   #24
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I have had no major problems with the 32gb Sandisk Cruzer right out of box. It is full with around 3500 songs. The mp3s range from 128kbps to 320kbps. Most are either 192 or 320kbps. Only minor issues I have found are that all folders alphabetize in 2-3 chunks...so all folders are not alphabetized in one nice list. One other minor issue is when I turn on car the USB is not always recognized. I have to unplug flashdrive and plug back in....then it stays recognized for another week or so.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:53 PM   #25
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Okay as one of the old fart generation (those who do not work in a tech related job), you are still speaking greek. Just tell me what flash drive I can buy that will work. That is about as much as I can handle. But thanks for posting this info for the tech savy younguns' as this is a very frustrating issue.
The 64GB is the size of the USB drive. Imagine it as the rooms in a hotel, the larger the size the more people you can house.

64GB (Gigabytes) is equals to 64000 MB (Megabytes) is equals to 64000000 KB (Kilobytes).

Each song approximately 3-5 minutes of time are usually around 4-6 MB.
So you take 64000MB dividided by the the maximum size of 6MB and you'll get approximately 10922 songs before your USB is full.

The FAT32, NTFS, ExFAT are the type of algorithm (pattern) that the content of the USB will be saved in. Think of it as reading/writing a language whether it's English/French/German.... etc on a document.

As per 32kb/cluster. Think of it as a neighbourhood. You can fit 32 houses in a neighbourhood before you'll have to expand and build a new block of houses.

I hope that makes more sense for you. Should there be any further questions, please feel free to ask me. Thanks.

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While this thread started out very positive, it's going to end very negative. While my tests with a few test mp3 files worked just fine, after copying several thousand files to the flash drive, nothing will play. "No supported data found"

I started searching, and someone posted that the radio does not support special characters in file names. Mine had parenthesis, hyphens, spaces, etc. Someone else wrote that the radio does not support file names with more than 100 characters in the name. Some of mine had up to 137. So I mounted on the flash drive on a Linux machine and wrote the following Perl script to rename all the files, remove the special characters, and truncate the length of the files to 80 characters:

#!/usr/bin/perl

# rename all music files on a thumb drive to a format
# compatible with the 2011 Camaro radio format.

# where the USB drive gets mounted:
$basedir="/media/CAMARO/music";

# length of file names to truncate to (takes last N characters):
$lengthlimit=80;

chdir($basedir);
@allfiles=`find . -type f -print`;

$maxlength=0;
$renamed=0;

$count=$#allfiles;


for $i (0 .. $count)
{
$file=$allfiles[$i];
$file=~ s/\.\///;
$file=~ s/\n//;
$newfile=$file;
if ($file=~ /.*[A-Za-z0-9]mp3/) #missing .mp3
{
$tempfile=$newfile;
$tempfile=~ s/mp3$//;
$newfile="${tempfile}.mp3";
}
$newfile=~ s/\s/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\~/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\!/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\#/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\$/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\%/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\^/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\&/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\*/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\(/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\)/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\-/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\=/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\\/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\|/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\[/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\]/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\{/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\}/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\;/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\:/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\'/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\"/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\</_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\>/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\,/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\?/_/g;
$newfile=~ s/\`/_/g;
$file=~ s/\`/\\\`/g;
$mylength=length($newfile);

if ($mylength > $maxlength)
{
$maxlength=$mylength;
$maxname=$newfile;
}

if ($mylength > $lengthlimit)
{
$pos=$mylength - $lengthlimit -1;
print "mylength=$mylength, lengthlimit=$lengthlimit, pos=$pos\n";
$tempname=substr($newfile, $pos);
print "truncating $newfile to $tempname\n";
$newfile=$tempname;
}

if (!("$file" eq $newfile))
{
print "$i: renaming $file to $newfile \n";
system ("mv \"$file\" $newfile");
$renamed++;
print "------------------------------------------------------\n";
}
}

print "\n----------------------------------------------------------\n";
print "\ndone!\n";
print "\n#of files renamed: $renamed\n";

----------------------------------------------------------------

Thinking it will work now, I insert the drive into the car. No supported data found. The cussing begins. Back to searching. someone else posted that they thought the max file length was 32 characters. Again, why can't we get an explicit declaration from GM??? So fine, I write another perl script to rename every song to song1.mp3, song2.mp3 ... songN.mp3:

#!/usr/bin/perl

# where the USB drive gets mounted:
$basedir="/media/CAMARO/music";

chdir($basedir);
@allfiles=`find . -type f -print`;

$renamed=0;

$count=$#allfiles;


for $i (0 .. $count)
{
$file=$allfiles[$i];
$file=~ s/\.\///;
$file=~ s/\n//;
$newfile="song${i}.mp3";

print "$i: renaming $file to $newfile \n";
system ("mv \"$file\" $newfile");
$renamed++;
print "------------------------------------------------------\n";
}

print "\n----------------------------------------------------------\n";
print "\ndone!\n";
print "\n#of files renamed: $renamed\n";


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It has to work now, right? Wrong!!! No supported data found. More searching. Posts say that the radio only supports certain bit rates, like 128Kbps, but my tests were with 256kbps mp3's and they worked. Again, GM WHERE IS THE LIST OF SUPPORTED FORMATS???

Even if I can determine what bit rates work, there is no way I am going though all of my songs, checking the bit rate, and re-encoding them to a supported bit rate. I'm about to give up and subscribe to SiriusXM.

As a programmer, what disgusts me is the (lack of) error handling in this GM radio. If they only support certain formats that is fine, but if they encounter a song they cannot play, they should simply skip over that song and go onto the next one, not invalidate the entire drive!!!! If I had access to the source code I could fix it myself, but I probably have better odds of getting hit by lightning than for that to happen.

I have always loved Chevrolet, but that love is fading fast because of this.
No documentation on supported formats in the owner's manual or the GM web site, very limited mp3 support, yet I can download Winamp for FREE that will play almost any mp3 on the planet. GM, you blew it on this one.

Fully support MP3.
Limited support for WMA (does not support pro/lossless).
Doesn't not support any other formats.

PFD doesn't advanced to next song.
Randomization isn't true random.
Bluetooth streaming quality sound worst than FM Radio.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:00 PM   #27
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Curious to know what'll happen if you try to index more than the 10,000 song limit.
I recall GM indicating that you cannot index more than a certain amount or it won't play.
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Thanks, first few USB sticks I tried did not show up at all, after a reformat all is good.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:48 PM   #29
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64GB partition (full drive), formatted FAT32, 32KB cluster size, works!

So it appears that the factory FAT32 format, with a cluster size that I did not make note of before reformatting, is incompatible, but reformatting with 32Kbytes per cluster works just fine.

Notes on Windows 7:

Windows 7 will only allow you to format drives larger than 32GB with NTFS,
so you need a 3rd party app to format them FAT32. I used fat32format, available here:
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/ind...at32format.htm

Also, if you go into the disk manager on windows 7, you will see that the option to delete the partition is greyed out. To delete it, you need to use DISKPART from the command line that comes with Windows 7, but I am not going to post instructions on how to do so, because this is a tool for advanced users and you can easily wipe out your hard drive if you don't know what you are doing. Advanced users can seek info on diskpart and figure it out pretty quickly. If you want to use the full drive you do not need this. You can take a drive with an NTFS format, run the fat32format program above, and reformat it to FAT32 without deleting the partition or volume.

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I have a 64GB PNY and it wouldn't recognize it. Reformatted with that tool at the link provided and it works like a champ now. I have about 9,700 songs on the stick.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:18 AM   #30
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I copied CDs to WMA loss less format and they play just fine through the usb interface on my 2014 SS with MyLink.
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Hope this helps for you guys.

Anything larger than a 32 GB, you can only format to NTFS. NTFS Filesystem is not readable by the car. You must flash it to FAT32, and Windows 7/8/8.1 will not allow it to be flashed to it.

Step 1:
Download FAT32 - Guiformat
http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=1529

Step 2:
Add your music to the drive. I did Artist / Album / Song

Step 3: (Optional)
Download Fat Sorter
http://fenux.net/story/fatsorteroneohfour
- Point it to the Flash Drive, and Sort it.

*The reason the last step is optional is because when you copy files to the drive, FAT32 file systems just list the files as soon as they can read them. So if it reads Track 01, Track 03, Track 04, Track 05, and Track 02 (in that order); That is how it will read on the car. Drove me nuts with my OCD. Fat Sorter will keep them in sequential order, and everything nice and organized. If you dont care it lists them out of order, then skip this step
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Hope this helps for you guys.

Anything larger than a 32 GB, you can only format to NTFS. NTFS Filesystem is not readable by the car. You must flash it to FAT32, and Windows 7/8/8.1 will not allow it to be flashed to it.

Step 1:
Download FAT32 - Guiformat
http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=1529

Step 2:
Add your music to the drive. I did Artist / Album / Song

Step 3: (Optional)
Download Fat Sorter
http://fenux.net/story/fatsorteroneohfour
- Point it to the Flash Drive, and Sort it.

*The reason the last step is optional is because when you copy files to the drive, FAT32 file systems just list the files as soon as they can read them. So if it reads Track 01, Track 03, Track 04, Track 05, and Track 02 (in that order); That is how it will read on the car. Drove me nuts with my OCD. Fat Sorter will keep them in sequential order, and everything nice and organized. If you dont care it lists them out of order, then skip this step
Livewire....I have the 32gb Sandisk, almost filled, and tried the Fat Sorter. It didn't really change anything for me and I was looking forward to it.

I have the Artists in separate folders and each contain their albums in sub folders. In Win7 it alphabetizes them fine, when I look at the drive on my computer. In my car it alphabetizes most of the Artists but then the most recently added are placed at the end and some others are placed randomly. It's always been this way...and I'm sort of used to it now...I'm wondering if maybe the car just cannot do it.

I thought Fat Sorter would have fixed it as you described, but it didn't work for me. The program ran it's course at sorting them just fine, but when I looked at the folders in my car afterwards....they were still as usual.

Any thoughts? It would be nice to have all folders stay alphabetized.
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All,

This thread has been very helpful for trying to get the USB music to work properly. I've been using a 64GB Low-profile drive myself for my music needs. By performing the formatting and modifying the ID tags to make sure everything is consistent, I have had success in getting my music to play. I do have an issue however when adding too many additional tracks at one time after getting into a state that works. I am not near the 10k song cap and only using around 12GB, but every time I add too much additional music (2+albums or artists), the car gets stuck trying to index and then saying no supported data found. I've found a system that kind of works, but is tedious. When i run up to this bad state, I remove recently added music, then take away additional tracks (a few albums or two). This usually brings the car back to indexing properly. I then add back in one album at a time, starting with albums that were previously "good" on the device, until adding the new stuff. Every time I add one, I go back to the car and let it index it. As you can imagine it gets very tedious. I also found that the limit to how much data to be added and running into the error tends to get smaller, the more I add albums. This worries me.

Anyone experience something similar or has some tricks up their sleeve as well?
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