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Old 05-16-2013, 09:48 AM   #26
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The TESLA model s is a beautiful car
but the top of the line 85kw battery one is pushing 100k. Performance is pretty amazing.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #27
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I can see Tesla turning to the next Tucker .
Just don't like the idea of tax credit (on any car)
But yea I want one :-)
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:29 PM   #28
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In person they are very impressive, have great presence. Would not buy one over a Camaro, but definately over a Mercedes/BMW/Audi/Cadillac with similar or slightly cheaper pricing. That is their market. You can also install a gov't subsidized solar panel set over your garage and power your house in between charging the car. Frankly I think Teslas will be a big success over the next few years, particularly in areas where fuel is >$5/gal.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:54 PM   #29
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TESLA stock has went from $35 share to ver $90 in the past 90 days.
kind curious you would choose it over a benz-bmw-audi.....not choose one over a camaro
it's faster-classier-looks better (even with 4 doors)
do you mean because of the price difference?
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TESLA stock has went from $35 share to ver $90 in the past 90 days.
kind curious you would choose it over a benz-bmw-audi.....not choose one over a camaro
it's faster-classier-looks better (even with 4 doors)
do you mean because of the price difference?
It's quicker, not faster trust me .
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:12 AM   #31
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It's quicker, not faster trust me .
True. Very quick of the line and at legal speeds damn impressive. On a track, road course or drag strip the Tesla hits a wall. But nothing, and I mean nothing has impressed me driving around town or in traffic like the Tesla S. it was the 85 BTW. If you did own this, you could just have a pure track car as your second vehicle.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:37 AM   #32
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True. Very quick of the line and at legal speeds damn impressive. On a track, road course or drag strip the Tesla hits a wall. But nothing, and I mean nothing has impressed me driving around town or in traffic like the Tesla S. it was the 85 BTW. If you did own this, you could just have a pure track car as your second vehicle.
Just gut and cage the BOss bro .
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:27 PM   #33
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Ask Tesla what it costs to replace the batteries which are "save you so much gas money"

I could tell you but I don't want to spoil it.

I think Teslas are cool, but the whole you save a ton driving an electric car is garbage. You are merely shifting costs to your power bill and when those batteries need to be replaced I'd suggest a gallon of lube...

Boss is money, I wouldn't take a Camaro over a Boss (unless it was a ZL1). Spent the day lapping a ton of people at the. Local road course with a Boss 302 2 weeks ago. Awesome car and my vette wasn't much faster than his Boss.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:42 PM   #34
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^^^^^
was told from tesla
"batteries should last in the area of 7-8 years with putting 10-12k for miles annually.

also the battery is 100% recyclable, once enough batteries are being produced, I wager we see battery refurb business start to spring up and they will be pretty cheap.
You do save a ton of $ driving an electric car and i really wouldn't argue that. facts are facts.
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:35 AM   #35
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Don't think I'd buy one to save money, or even the environment for that matter. I mean I drive a Boss, right. No for me, it would be a luxury cruiser that just happens to be very quick and unbelievably practical. Plus that cabin is just a damn nice place to spend time, especially in rush hour traffic.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:35 AM   #36
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Don't think I'd buy one to save money, or even the environment for that matter. I mean I drive a Boss, right. No for me, it would be a luxury cruiser that just happens to be very quick and unbelievably practical. Plus that cabin is just a damn nice place to spend time, especially in rush hour traffic.
Amen to the cabin, I love the huge lcd.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:40 AM   #37
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this is america, i dont see the problem here
heres the tesla s for those who dont know
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:01 AM   #38
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Yeah they are everywhere now.

I have been doing this exotic car event for years every Saturday and up until last week we never saw any except the old ones that have been out awhile.

Last Saturday there were probably 8 there.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:03 AM   #39
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^^^^^
was told from tesla
"batteries should last in the area of 7-8 years with putting 10-12k for miles annually.

also the battery is 100% recyclable, once enough batteries are being produced, I wager we see battery refurb business start to spring up and they will be pretty cheap.
You do save a ton of $ driving an electric car and i really wouldn't argue that. facts are facts.
Have you found an article showing how much you pay in power vs gas? I'm happy to admit I'm wrong but I just have a feeling you are simply shifting the cost of fuel to your power bill and the savings probably aren't what they claim.

I still think the cars are cool, I just feel the claims are a bit misleading.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:33 AM   #40
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In California you see them everywhere.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:33 PM   #41
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They make these cars 5 minutes from my house. I wouldn't buy one right now. The tech is still too infant and the price is still way too high. Lets face it. It's a toy car for the rich...not for the average joe. If you want to save money, get a toyota yaris.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:18 AM   #42
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Love those things, but correct that they are not a car for saving money right now. This is the first serioous salvo IMHO in the electric car game. The first with excellent power, impressive acceleration and most important, good range. This is where more work starts to go into making prices cheaper. And powering with electricity s a hell of a lot cheaper than gasoline, not replacing one with another, electricity is WAY cheaper per mile than gasoline.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:35 AM   #43
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Those cars are beautiful. I had a Model S on pre-order when they were announced in 2008 but the build dates kept getting pushed back. I was tiring of the H2 at the time and needed to get a funner more fuel efficient car so I dropped the preorder and got the SS. There are 3 currnetly driving around STL and everytime I see one I wish I would've waited it out. Hell, Tesla even offered to upgrade mine to a Signature Series which is the top of the line for them. There is no denying that they are breathtaking cars and definitely changed the market for all electric cars. They evan just repayed their GOVT loan of 10 million 9 years early, which was used to install the free charging stations.
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:44 AM   #44
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I gotta strongly disagree on the looks, Camaro takes the win there. I'm sure they are fun but in this world I'll take an engine over electric any day. I can go to a gas station, and in minutes I can fill up enough energy to go hundreds of miles. Electric cars take hours to fill up for barely 100 miles.
For the car enthusiast, it just won't cut it. You can't replicate the sound of an engine. Not only that, but you can't even mod the damn thing. No such thing as bolt ons or turbos lol
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #45
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I LOVE people that drive electric cars. They aren't using gas, which means more for me!
Yeah, the Tesla is sweet. But the looks don't turn heads like muscle cars. I see it more in competition with Mercedes or BMW.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:13 PM   #46
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Not to burst any bubbles but I don't think the current line of muscle cars really turn heads with the masses. There are to many of them on the streets now and very common.
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Speak for yourself. It may have to do with location, too. LA is inundated with exotics and muscle cars, as are most other affluent, large cities, like New York or Miami. But in the rest of the country, most people drive more utilitarian vehicles, and I have received numerous positive comments regarding both my Camaro, and Super Bee.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:47 PM   #48
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Sorry OP, the look of the Tesla is cool, but nothing like the Camaro.



Fossile fuels like gas is one of the best way to harm the environnement. If your electricity comes from a nuclear power plant, more than 100 in the USA, there is zero pollution or so. Electric cars are the future. It sucks(cool for the planet, but sucks for muscle car guys). I will have a V8 and burn gas as long as I can for the rest of my life.. american V8 sound/performance/price> anything else LOL
Nuclear power plants most certainly still harms the planet. We still have no effective means of disposing of nuclear waste...except puting it in a mountain to degrade for the next 10 thousand years...

I say eventually hydrogen fuel cells take over.
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hate to bring this thread back from the dead... but I just spent a little while looking over the specs for the Model S "Performance" version. Darn impressive. I really believe that this is the car of the future. GM needs to quickly get a model that competes (corvette chassis/body?).

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options

no gasoline
no oil changes
free charging (at my work)
400+ HP
12.6 sec 1/4 mile
RWD
instant torque
17" touchscreen in the dash with web browser, nav, and all of the tech goodies
new battery swap concept is faster than filling up a tank of gas
8 year warranty on the battery
exclusivity

only cons..... price (which will surely come down with time)

.... and the fact that I dont know how to mod an electric motor... but I can learn




I love my muscle car... but to overlook this car is, well, ignorant and arrogant
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:14 PM   #50
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Holy crap TESLA stock is $165
It was like $40 bux 7 months ago
Something smells fishy....... it's a great car and incredibly fast but they can't be producing enough for the stock to be where it is
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