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Old 05-16-2013, 04:34 PM   #18
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i just put on the cold air inductions intake...and i must say...this intake has to be one of the best quality intakes i have ever purchased...also makes the car sound awesome
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:29 PM   #19
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Seach the jannetty intake test it ll give you a idea what numbers these intakes put down. I personally have the airaid and it makes good power. For the price of the airaid compared to others it hangs with the best of them.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:51 AM   #20
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Seach the jannetty intake test it ll give you a idea what numbers these intakes put down. I personally have the airaid and it makes good power. For the price of the airaid compared to others it hangs with the best of them.
i wouldnt bet my bottom dollar on that test there have been quite a few others done mainly by the roto fab team and there are quite a few mixed results you know how that goes though haha

imho all the top end intakes out there are pretty close in performance maybe 2-3 horsepower seperation or one performs better in a different part of the powerband but there all relitively close find one thats in your price range you think looks cool and pull the trigger you will be happy with most of them out there i.e Airrad C.A.I roto Fab Vararam ......K&N (i know ppl dont like it but it worked great on my 2nd ss) etc
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i wouldnt bet my bottom dollar on that test there have been quite a few others done mainly by the roto fab team and there are quite a few mixed results you know how that goes though haha

imho all the top end intakes out there are pretty close in performance maybe 2-3 horsepower seperation or one performs better in a different part of the powerband but there all relitively close find one thats in your price range you think looks cool and pull the trigger you will be happy with most of them out there i.e Airrad C.A.I roto Fab Vararam ......K&N (i know ppl dont like it but it worked great on my 2nd ss) etc
So you're saying that you trust a MANUFACTURER'S intake comparison over a shop that has no dog in the hunt? No one said Teds test was the last word, but it's the best we have to date. I have nothing but respect for RF but test from manufacturers aren't taken well here. We prefer to have independent testing, which the JRE test is. He sells most of the intakes he tested and asked every one of them if they wanted to be included. All the major players except for VR trusted Ted enough to be fair about his testing methods.
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So you're saying that you trust a MANUFACTURER'S intake comparison over a shop that has no dog in the hunt? No one said Teds test was the last word, but it's the best we have to date. I have nothing but respect for RF but test from manufacturers aren't taken well here. We prefer to have independent testing, which the JRE test is. He sells most of the intakes he tested and asked every one of them if they wanted to be included. All the major players except for VR trusted Ted enough to be fair about his testing methods.
man you are a negative nancy on this forum read my comment closely i said after that " you know how that goes" as to indicate it was the manufacturer testing but thats not the only test to date with varying results ... why dont you go argue with a wall or something instead of being so negative in every comment on this forum

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man you are a negative nancy on this forum read my comment closely i said after that " you know how that goes" as to indicate it was the manufacturer testing but thats not the only test to date with varying results ... why dont you go argue with a wall or something instead of being so negative in every comment on this forum

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How do you find that i'm being negative? You come in here and try to discredit the most comprehensive CAI test we have and you're calling me negative. Your last sentence about the K&N told me all we need to know about your knowledge of CAI.

For the record, I wasn't negative at you at all. You'll know when I am.
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How do you find that i'm being negative? You come in here and try to discredit the most comprehensive CAI test we have and you're calling me negative. Your last sentence about the K&N told me all we need to know about your knowledge of CAI.

For the record, I wasn't negative at you at all. You'll know when I am.
first off i wasnt discrediting teds test results at all i trust him to work on my car thats the last thing i would i was simply stating that there are multiple inividual and manufactures testing that have quite a few varrying results which is going to happen since there are so many variables when it comes to HP/TQ numbers in regards to a CAI's performance on the dyno i was simply trying to state that you should look at more than one individual test that was done nearly 3 years ago and read multiple test that way he could formulate his own opinion based on what he was looking for in an intake .

secondly i dont know why you would try to discredit my knowledge on intakes because i ran one of the most reputable companies in the industry intake on 1 of my 3 camaros i am an individual and like to test and decide my own opinion on things that i run on my vehicles especially when it is such a respected and well known company as K&N. and the fact that i had great performance from it no cel or codes were thrown and it dynoed consistently threw-out the power curve and i gave it a good review in my previous statement if anything shows your ignorance and close minded personality

thirdly if you weren't trying to sound negative im sorry but you come off abrasive and rude in multiple post on this forum . this is supposed to be a place where fellow enthusiast can come share knowledge,stories, experience , and ask questions without fear of persecution and being talked down to like there a child .................
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first off i wasnt discrediting teds test results at all i trust him to work on my car thats the last thing i would i was simply stating that there are multiple inividual and manufactures testing that have quite a few varrying results which is going to happen since there are so many variables when it comes to HP/TQ numbers in regards to a CAI's performance on the dyno i was simply trying to state that you should look at more than one individual test that was done nearly 3 years ago and read multiple test that way he could formulate his own opinion based on what he was looking for in an intake .

secondly i dont know why you would try to discredit my knowledge on intakes because i ran one of the most reputable companies in the industry intake on 1 of my 3 camaros i am an individual and like to test and decide my own opinion on things that i run on my vehicles especially when it is such a respected and well known company as K&N. and the fact that i had great performance from it no cel or codes were thrown and it dynoed consistently threw-out the power curve and i gave it a good review in my previous statement if anything shows your ignorance and close minded personality

thirdly if you weren't trying to sound negative im sorry but you come off abrasive and rude in multiple post on this forum . this is supposed to be a place where fellow enthusiast can come share knowledge,stories, experience , and ask questions without fear of persecution and being talked down to like there a child .................
If you have access to more relevant and comprehensive testing, by all means post em up. As far as K&N being a the MOST reputable company, i'll just leave that statement as it is. There are many people that will disagree with you. Just because they make a decent filter that is reusable doesn't mean they build a top notch CAI. If you're one to believe the hype from the manufacturer then you're going to be massively disappointed when you find out what they really gain.

Thirdly, if I want to remind people that the search function works quite well, that's my prerogative since that's my job. I am the search ninja. If you feel like i'm talking down to you like a child, you won't last long here. Wait till Litle and Smirnoff get hold of you.
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AXIS, has not been negative at all. Just because you've had a "few" cars doesn't make you an expert so please share the other comparisons from other sources. Your statements and your FB avitar pic does tell ALOT. Lmbo
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AXIS, has not been negative at all. Just because you've had a "few" cars doesn't make you an expert so please share the other comparisons from other sources. Your statements and your FB avitar pic does tell ALOT. Lmbo
glad you find it necessary to say im calling myself an expert not once did i say that . i can see that you and axis are picked from the same patch very classy to insult my picture also a very classy avitar pic you have ....
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I for one LOVE your avatar pic. Reminds me of the Chemistry major that helped out during lab. MMMM, the only fond memory I have of chemistry. Might have been why I took it twice. No, I just plain bomb it the first time, haha.
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An air intake system that helps your car breath easier will make your car more fun.

Unless you do testing of the intakes on the same car, in the same time frame, on the same dyno, with the same conditions, changing nothing on the car other than the intake, I wouldn't trust the numbers. If you use different cars, that changes the data.

With the testing, the commanded AFR should be the same to determine how the unit effects the final AFR. The fuel trims shouldnt factor into the test if they are stable. They shouldnt be plus XX on one test and minus XX on another test. That makes the data not reflect the same conditions for test.

Commanded timing and actual timing should remain close to the same at WOT for the test.

Weather conditions should be the close to the same.

IAT should be the close to the same to determine how much they rise during the run. If you pulling timing because of the IAT table on one test and none on another test, that's going to effect the final numbers.

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Dang, is this what it looks like when I'm arguing with Axis and Litle?!

As far as intakes are concerned, I could care less what any test says...to a certain degree. Tests can be manipulated. And I definitely disregard any other person's input on any of the major mods. Why? Because time and time again I have seen people merely state that whatever brand they particularly purchased is "the best hands down" while every other brand is total crap. Therefore, from what I have seen and from my experience in dealing with cars, I would recommend any CAI that seals itself off from the engine bay...even with the hood open. Some CAIs are designed to seal off when the hood is shut. They are ok...after all, it's not like you're driving around town with your hood open. But they aren't my cup of tea. Fenderwell CAIs are good because they are totally away from the engine bay. I did not go that route because I do not wanna feel the panic that comes up every time we have a rain storm and I approach a huge puddle.

So for me personally, the choice was between CAI and Vararam. I like CAI because it is sealed off from the engine and there is no way to draw in any water from large puddles...unless your car is submerged. I don't like it tho because it is the typical look with nothing that stands out from the typical crowd on first glance. And the placement of the box doesn't do it for me as far as available outside air. Vararam seems to be able to draw in the coldest possible air especially when the vehicle is moving. The only thing I dislike is that it can possibly draw in heat from the radiator. However, the heat shield that comes with it helps in that department I'm sure. So all said and Done, and I went with Vararam. Money isn't an issue for me, but the $100 cheaper price is always a plus. I even factored in that the Vararam might draw in water from rain or the car wash. But I have not had any issue in rain...and I simply shut the car off in the wash tunnel. So all in all, look over what you want, how much you wanna spend, and what advantages/disadvantages matter or not to you and go from there. Performance-wise, not one of them will benefit you over the other.
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An air intake system that helps your car breath easier will make your car more fun.

Unless you do testing of the intakes on the same car, in the same time frame, on the same dyno, with the same conditions, changing nothing on the car other than the intake, I wouldn't trust the numbers. If you use different cars, that changes the data.

With the testing, the commanded AFR should be the same to determine how the unit effects the final AFR. The fuel trims shouldnt factor into the test if they are stable. They shouldnt be plus XX on one test and minus XX on another test. That makes the data not reflect the same conditions for test.

Commanded timing and actual timing should remain close to the same at WOT for the test.

Weather conditions should be the close to the same.

IAT should be the close to the same to determine how much they rise during the run. If you pulling timing because of the IAT table on one test and none on another test, that's going to effect the final numbers.

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Which is EXACTLY what the Jannetty test was. Same car, same day, baseline run, nothing changed but temp throughout the day and the intakes. Best of 3 runs after all temps were brought up to normal operating temp. Ambient, IAT, knock, AFR, and a few other data points were recorded. Oh, it was streamed live for all to watch.

As I've said numerous times, it's not the end all/be all of CAI tests but it's the best we have to date.
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My intake made my tires grip and my headlights brighter!! LOL
Lol I missed this! Aaaand it will increase your octane rating too in some apps lol
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Dang, is this what it looks like when I'm arguing with Axis and Litle?!

So for me personally, the choice was between CAI and Vararam. I like CAI because it is sealed off from the engine and there is no way to draw in any water from large puddles...unless your car is submerged. I don't like it tho because it is the typical look with nothing that stands out from the typical crowd on first glance. And the placement of the box doesn't do it for me as far as available outside air. Vararam seems to be able to draw in the coldest possible air especially when the vehicle is moving. The only thing I dislike is that it can possibly draw in heat from the radiator. However, the heat shield that comes with it helps in that department I'm sure. So all said and Done, and I went with Vararam. Money isn't an issue for me, but the $100 cheaper price is always a plus. I even factored in that the Vararam might draw in water from rain or the car wash. But I have not had any issue in rain...and I simply shut the car off in the wash tunnel. So all in all, look over what you want, how much you wanna spend, and what advantages/disadvantages matter or not to you and go from there. Performance-wise, not one of them will benefit you over the other.

Yea but your more fun, but you have a vararam now and I like you this [] much more LMBO!!! But if you repeat it I swear I'll deny it !
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