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Old 05-18-2013, 09:54 AM   #1
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tune cables

can you use a standard obd-ii to usb scan cable to install flashed tunings? I already have one of those, and Trifecta and the others charge $200 for theirs, it doesn't look any different. The cost of the cable is a big deterrent to me forking over the total cost of the tune!

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Old 05-18-2013, 10:03 AM   #2
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Not sure if you can use that....but if you look in the members classified section here you will find someone trying to sell their tune cable. I recently got one for $75...which I thought was a pretty good deal considering that's half off of the cheapest I found a new one to be.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:45 AM   #3
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Does anyone ever loan theirs out? I really don't see using it more than the initial tune and then the 1-2 follow ups. Seems like such a huge expense for something so seldom used. Kind of like my wife's $450 juicer!
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:15 PM   #4
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If you're not in a rush to get the tune, BNR runs free-cable sales from time to time. I got in one one last September. Don't know if they have one planned for any time soon, but I thought I'd just throw that out there...
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:18 PM   #5
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Wow, that would be great. They offer a loaner program, but you still have to come up with the $200 deposit up front.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:37 AM   #6
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Not 100% sure yet, but I may have my red cable up for sale for a decent price within a few weeks.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:03 PM   #7
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Not 100% sure yet, but I may have my red cable up for sale for a decent price within a few weeks.
going for IPF?
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going for IPF?
Well, that's the ultimate goal, but not immediately. I plan to post more about it once I've had more seat time, but just to say quickly, I went back to the stock tune and now I'm wondering if the Trifecta tune was really adding any performance at all.
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Well, that's the ultimate goal, but not immediately. I plan to post more about it once I've had more seat time, but just to say quickly, I went back to the stock tune and now I'm wondering if the Trifecta tune was really adding any performance at all.


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Old 05-19-2013, 06:12 PM   #10
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Well, that's the ultimate goal, but not immediately. I plan to post more about it once I've had more seat time, but just to say quickly, I went back to the stock tune and now I'm wondering if the Trifecta tune was really adding any performance at all.
In reality the Trifecta has never had a solid reputation with giving a good increase in power. It is mainly used to clear the CEL for people with headers and making the shifts more aggressive if asked for. Other than those two things the only thing that is different about the Trifecta is the Ghost Cam. When I get LT and i can afford the IPF that is what i will go for but if not I might just go with Trifecta.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:58 PM   #11
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I'm mainly concerned with shift firmness so the hypertech can give me that, but I'm also planning on getting a ported tb. I don't know anything about the ipf, but isn't it about twice as expensive?
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[QUOTE=solteroblues;6564318]I'm mainly concerned with shift firmness so the hypertech can give me that, but I'm also planning on getting a ported tb. I don't know anything about the ipf, but isn't it about twice as expensive?[/QUOTE]


Depending on your mods.....yes.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:38 PM   #13
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So do really think there's no gain from the trifecta tune?
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:40 AM   #14
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The question is, is the power difference between the two tunes is worth the switch?
Pretty sure there is gain with trifecta, but less than IPF it seems
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:46 AM   #15
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I have a custom Fsp tune. For those who question if there tune is giving them gains, well it isn't, that is if you have to question it. I had my car get flashed back to stick from a lazy tech who didn't wanna relearn my sensors for tires on a rotation. I left the dealer and I got on the gas and I was like wtf. Well after going back down to Fsp to see what the dealer did. All they did was flash me back to stock. I was so spoiled over the past three weeks with the Fsp tune from Matt and Rodney, that I thought something was wrong when the car was running in stock specs. So I will say if you question what your tune is doing to your car then I gotta say your tune is lacking. With my Fsp tune I have no doubt question or hesitation in saying its getting 110% out of my mistress and I love every second I'm sitting in that drivers seat.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:08 AM   #16
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In reality the Trifecta has never had a solid reputation with giving a good increase in power. It is mainly used to clear the CEL for people with headers and making the shifts more aggressive if asked for. Other than those two things the only thing that is different about the Trifecta is the Ghost Cam. When I get LT and i can afford the IPF that is what i will go for but if not I might just go with Trifecta.
Is your comment regarding the LLT specifically? From what I recall seeing, tunes on the LLT were getting about 15 HP, but on the LFX they were pushing 30 HP.

Not questioning your statement's validity, just trying to clarify. I have no experience with any of the available tunes, but may look to tune eventually.
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Does anyone ever loan theirs out? I really don't see using it more than the initial tune and then the 1-2 follow ups. Seems like such a huge expense for something so seldom used. Kind of like my wife's $450 juicer!
If you get a new mod, likely you'll have to get a retune plus you can use this cable to reset codes with the correct software.

On another note, these cables are used in all kinds of other new vehicles coming out to the market so down the road, you might be needed this cable with another vehicle that you may wish to tune.
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I'm starting to have some doubts about the Trifecta. It seems about a 60-40 lean towards it not being worth the money. Every other thread I read about it, people say both ways. I don't know if it's worth the hassle. I could go with the Hypertech that would give me tunings for my vararam and transmission shift points, for less money, but when I add the ported throttle body, it doesn't appear to offer any kind of tuning for that. Is that going to make a big difference?
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Is your comment regarding the LLT specifically? From what I recall seeing, tunes on the LLT were getting about 15 HP, but on the LFX they were pushing 30 HP.

Not questioning your statement's validity, just trying to clarify. I have no experience with any of the available tunes, but may look to tune eventually.
My comment was in regards to the LLT. Thanks to its lock tight Bosch ECU it has made it very difficult to have many tune options. While the Trifecta will deliver a slight HP increase the IPF has been shown to have a higher performance increase. Since the LFX has a Delphi ECU it has made tuning on them much much easier.
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I'm starting to have some doubts about the Trifecta. It seems about a 60-40 lean towards it not being worth the money. Every other thread I read about it, people say both ways. I don't know if it's worth the hassle. I could go with the Hypertech that would give me tunings for my vararam and transmission shift points, for less money, but when I add the ported throttle body, it doesn't appear to offer any kind of tuning for that. Is that going to make a big difference?
You shouldn't need a tune/re-tune for a ported throttle body. That is a pretty simple and straight forward mod
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You shouldn't need a tune/re-tune for a ported throttle body. That is a pretty simple and straight forward mod
So the hypertech should give me everything I need and possibly save a few bucks? And will never need a cable? Sounds like the best option, unless there's something that I'm missing.
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Hypertech is the tune that never ever gets talked about, and I think that is because it is the most "canned" like tune and because of that got written off. Heck...even I never considered it. Now I'm thinking twice about that.

A member here with one of the most successful 1/4 mile times for a bolt on V6 ran that tune and seemed pretty happy with it.

I don't believe the Hypertech covers LT headers, but otherwise, I think you would be good to use it.
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I've loved my trifecta tune. Going from stock tune to my original trifecta tune is a big difference. No dyno to prove it, but the car just pulls better
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:34 PM   #24
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Every car reacts different in all aspects of modding for power. None will feel or seem the same. I noticed a big difference when I got my Trifecta tune before FI on my M6 with no trans tune. I have done in the past the tuned to stock then back to tuned deal. And I noticed a difference. So engines are weaker than others while others are stronger, it's the luck of the purchase with GM lol!
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Found a local trifecta tuner, so may not need the cable to begin with. But I'd still like to get one for logging or future upgrades
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