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Old 05-19-2013, 10:44 PM   #1
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ZL1 / SS suspension take-offs for my 2010 V6

I'd like to upgrade the "soft" suspension on my V6 with something a bit firmer but still very comfortable... also cheap.

Aftermarket all looks very nice, but to be honest, most of it falls out of the price range I'm willing to spend.

From what I have read, it would need to be 2012/2013 SS or ZL1 to be worth it, correct?

Also, what all *should* I replace? I understand it might be less desirable to use the ZL1 springs on my V6 struts? I'm at 40k miles so would it be worth it to replace struts too (they're a bit pricey)? Or would I be better off with SS springs? A small drop and a bit firmer would be ideal.

I guess front/rear sways (rear ZL1 would require control arms?), springs (SS or ZL1?) links maybe, and lower rear control arms is what I would need?

If anybody else has done a full swap let me know please how it worked out and any part numbers required.

I realize this may have been discussed, rest assured I have used but have not found a concise and complete answer to my questions.

Thanks to any who can help.


Also... anybody who may have 2012/2013 SS or ZL1 take-offs lying around, I would love to take them off your hands. I'm willing to drive a reasonable distance to get them, I live in eastern CT.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:58 PM   #2
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ZL1 sway bar/bushings/clamps GM #22842517
Driver's side end link GM #22842516
Passenger's side end link GM #22842515

Make sure that GM put the correct end links in the boxes BEFORE you have them drill your struts, or you may be waiting a while for the correct part like I am.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:17 PM   #3
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One thing to keep in mind when I installed our 1LE struts and springs I didnt get any drop it actually lifted ours about 1\2in in the front not sure why but it did
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:23 PM   #4
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make sure that the 2013 pieces fit your 2010. i know i tried to use my friends suspension and it didnt all work. i have a 2011 and he had a 2012 ss
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I installed SS springs on my v6. The rear was lowered some, the front had no noticeable change.
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Is there an appreciable gain to installing SS springs? Would really like to get rid of the ugly fender gap as well...

I'm pricing front SS sway w/links and rear ZL1 sway w/ lower control arms and links, etc. Looking like $250 + shipping. Is this worth it or should I just go with aftermarket for a bit more... Vendors feel free to chime in w/ some deals

And what is this about drilling my struts?
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Im in our ZL1 front and rear sways with links right at $300 but we are a 2012 so we already had the new style arms on the rear.
Gain wise tho the 2 things that I noticed most was the zl1 sways and our alignment, I wished I would have aligned the car the day after we bought it, huge diffrence but we are also doing more that an average sunday driver with ours so we can see the gains alot diffrently than a normal driver would
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:44 AM   #8
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Is there an appreciable gain to installing SS springs? Would really like to get rid of the ugly fender gap as well...

I'm pricing front SS sway w/links and rear ZL1 sway w/ lower control arms and links, etc. Looking like $250 + shipping. Is this worth it or should I just go with aftermarket for a bit more... Vendors feel free to chime in w/ some deals

And what is this about drilling my struts?
The sways won't work they'll rub on the v6 brakes. The only ZL1 sway option you have if you have v6 brakes is the pedders one
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The sways won't work they'll rub on the v6 brakes. The only ZL1 sway option you have if you have v6 brakes is the pedders one
We ran zl1 bars with our v6 brakes with no issue this is one of the largest sway bar missinformations on the forums, we daily drove and autocrossed many times with no issue, before we brembo swapped
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The stock ZL1 sways?

I've personally talked to two members who have had their ZL1 sways rub and had to sell them as well as a local member who got them for his v6, had them rub and had to buy brembos. I also pm'd pfadt and they said their aftermarket ones won't work either because they will rub too.
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Yes stock GM ZL1 rear sway ordered from dealership fit and cleared fine, not sure what the other guys were doing wrong but ours cleared just fine.
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That's interesting to hear. Did you do anything different. Have a buddy with a ZL1 that is thinking about doing aftermarket sways. If he does it, he said he'll just give me the stock ones. Might try to see if I can get them to work too but that is what I've personally heard and seen.
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I'd like to upgrade the "soft" suspension on my V6 with something a bit firmer but still very comfortable... also cheap.

Aftermarket all looks very nice, but to be honest, most of it falls out of the price range I'm willing to spend.

From what I have read, it would need to be 2012/2013 SS or ZL1 to be worth it, correct?

Also, what all *should* I replace? I understand it might be less desirable to use the ZL1 springs on my V6 struts? I'm at 40k miles so would it be worth it to replace struts too (they're a bit pricey)? Or would I be better off with SS springs? A small drop and a bit firmer would be ideal.

I guess front/rear sways (rear ZL1 would require control arms?), springs (SS or ZL1?) links maybe, and lower rear control arms is what I would need?
You are correct, you would need the 2012+ rear LCA's with the outboard end link mounting locations to accommodate a Z style bar. Other than that, all you would need are the bars and end links (they come with mounts and brackets). AFAIK The ZL1 bar will not work on the V6, but there seems to be others who have done it. I would wait for picture confirmation before purchasing.

As for the springs, I would recommend going aftermarket. There is not much gain to be had with the springs unless you are getting for next to nothing. I would recommend the Hotchkis springs. They are very affordable and ride great! Also I would recommend some SS struts, or better yet those from a 1LE.

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One thing to keep in mind when I installed our 1LE struts and springs I didnt get any drop it actually lifted ours about 1\2in in the front not sure why but it did
That is because the V6 weighs less than the V8. Same reason the convertibles will drop a little more in the rear.
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Yes stock GM ZL1 rear sway ordered from dealership fit and cleared fine, not sure what the other guys were doing wrong but ours cleared just fine.
Very interesting. I was also under the impression that they would not work on the V6. We haven't attempted it personally. Do you happen to have any pics?

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Old 05-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #14
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Wow, this forum does not disappoint. Lots of good info, thanks again
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V6 struts have 10mm holes for the end link studs, but the ZL1 end links use 12mm studs and the holes must be drilled out larger. The ZL1 front sway bar goes on a V6 without any problems, but the ZL1 rear bar will hit the brakes as they age (the calipers move in towards the car as the pads wear down).

Pedders rear z bar is around $450 alone, vs $150 for the entire front OEM ZL1 sway bar assembly.
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Yes you need to drill out fe2 and fe3 front strut tabs to take the larger zl1 1le end links, not sure if I still have any pictures of the rear set up but I thought I had posted some in my old thread when I was installing them ill try to find them
*edit nope never took unstalled pictures
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