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Old 05-20-2013, 10:32 PM   #1
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Tips for Getting a Camaro! Got any?

Hello,

I'm a new member that has been lurking here since 2010. I actually loved reading about Camaro5 Fest, the friendly banters between the members, including the bet between to known members!
Anyways, I digress.

It took some time to finally get this close to purchasing a Camaro SS, and I'm just wondering if you can provide any tips for it!

I'm also a beginner when it comes to dealerships. I went to get an idea on how the SS rides and the prices: For a 2013 2SS/RS (with performance shifter), I'm looking at around $50,279. Yes, I live in Canada (Calgary, AB). With $10,000 down payment, I'm looking at $560 monthly for 72 months (0.99% APR). It is something that is achievable to me; however, I'm worried that I might not be finding the best deal around. Is there any way I can get a lower price on the 2013s? Or is the price going to be similar to 2014 Camaros, so I might as well wait for them? The salesman did not do the 4 box thing that gets repeated; all he gave me was the car payments (36-84 months) for $0 and $10,000 down payments, so his interaction seemed a bit sincere to me (pardon my doubt; dealers get a bad rep, sometimes unfairly). Any tips that apply to Canadians from Alberta!?

I drive a 135i fairly regularly, so I am used to some V6 TT power. Test driving the SS proved to be a different monster: while not as nimble, the grunt it provided was incredible. Granted, the reason the SS felt heavy was because it was the convertible. This was more obvious when testing the 1LS, as that one felt light on its feet.
Once, and if, I get a SS Camaro, what can you, ladies and gents, tell me about the experiences that I will have as a long-term Camaro owner? I've seen so many of the nice posts at early years, and this post would be a good one to catch up to how you all have been handling a SS (and LS/LTs) since 2010!!
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:27 PM   #2
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Hey TheAbyss,

I'm new as well and although i can't speak to how the SS rides, I've been dealing with dealerships quite a bit down here in Florida. I've over 10 visits to the 6 dealerships in the area as I've bought my 2LT and am in the market again looking to upgrade to 2SS with 1LE (I too was sold upon driving the SS for the first time.. I'm aware my car is quite new, but after having that rush of V8 power, I've been feening that power).

When it comes to price, I've been using aol auto's pricing section to see the invoice cost on the vehicle as well as the option pricing. With that i go to a dealership and make an offer about $200 over invoice and i don't budge telling them if they agree to my price i will sign everything immediately. With that you can find their rock bottom price and then compare to another dealership using the same method.

With regards to financing, i have no idea how to improve it and I'm super jealous because with my lousy credit all I'm offered is a 6.9% apr.. so it seems that ill have to pay it rather quickly.

Last few things i know to push a dealership into a better deal is going there at the end of a month as they will be looking to meet quota and if you're looking for a '13 then try to wait until the end of the year.. however you have fewer vehicle options.. not sure when the Canada order cutoff is for the '13's but when i called Chevy they told me i had until June 27.
(Funny though how ALl the dealerships tell me i cannot order one and insist i take one from the lot or do a vehicle search)


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Old 05-21-2013, 12:16 AM   #3
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Thanks!
I'll definitely keep that in mind! I'll go back again at the end of the month and tell them about sticking to $200 over invoice.
I guess I am lucky with 1% APR! I think, though, that the cutoff is likely similar. I'll have to check again!

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Old 05-21-2013, 12:21 AM   #4
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Hey, another Canadian here

I just got my car delivered this week and was stunned by the amazing financing at Chevy Canada. 1.49 is what I got and I sure ain't complaining. Don't know if they're trying to phase out the 2013's or what.

My brother has a Dodge Challenger and he got ripped on the financing. 6.9%. Funny thing too is he's about to get a job at Chrysler so he would have saved 7% on the sale price if he waited

Anyway, it sounds like a great deal for 2SS. These cars won't be around forever and there are very few in Canada to start with. (winter for 8 months out of the year will do that ) I'd say go for it.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:26 AM   #5
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Internet shopping my man. You email every dealer with in range of you, tell them what you want and tell them to give you your best price. Go with the winner, however, once you've picked it, print the stuff out, because by the time you get there they will have "sold" that car or change the price for whatever damn reason.

Look, negotiate the price first, don't tell them you need financing, then negotiate your trade if any, finally the financing. Best if you have financing already lined up. Like through your bank or credit union. Then go down there, don't tell the guy what your rate is, ask him for his best rate, his is better or worse, doesn't matter, don't tell him what your other financing rate is. He doesn't need to know that, if he wanted to beat it he would have already.

That's in a nutshell, never be afraid to walk away from a deal, I've made salesmen, and in particular sales managers, red in the face because I was well prepared when I got there and explained to them I wasn't paying that damn price, or better yet tell them you've got a better rate or price at a different dealership, that really pisses them off. It's all about the thrill of the hunt.

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Old 05-21-2013, 02:03 AM   #6
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Dang man, $50K for an SS. That's rough.
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:13 AM   #7
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Dang man, $50K for an SS. That's rough.
This. Can you buy in the US? I'm not sure how that would work.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:31 AM   #8
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Internet shopping my man. You email every dealer with in range of you, tell them what you want and tell them to give you your best price. Go with the winner, however, once you've picked it, print the stuff out, because by the time you get there they will have "sold" that car or change the price for whatever damn reason.

Look, negotiate the price first, don't tell them you need financing, then negotiate your trade if any, finally the financing. Best if you have financing already lined up. Like through your bank or credit union. Then go down there, don't tell the guy what your rate is, ask him for his best rate, his is better or worse, doesn't matter, don't tell him what your other financing rate is. He doesn't need to know that, if he wanted to beat it he would have already.

That's in a nutshell, never be afraid to walk away from a deal, I've made salesmen, and in particular sales managers, red in the face because I was well prepared when I got there and explained to them I wasn't paying that damn price, or better yet tell them you've got a better rate or price at a different dealership, that really pisses them off. It's all about the thrill of the hunt.

Good luck

ding ding ding!!!

i agree with all of these and this is what i did.

i emailed all the dealers around me. once i got the best price i asked the others to match. none would come close to the one i purchased from.

When i went to do finance i told them what i could get at my CU and they asked if i would go through them i sad if they would beat it. that they did. my CU was at 1.9% i got 1.7%. needless to say if i carry out my loan i will be giving them a total of like $250 in interest.

keep in mind EVERYTHING on a car deal you can negotiate. the deal itself, the APR (if you have good credit), and the extended warranty
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This. Can you buy in the US? I'm not sure how that would work.
I think that I read on here US dealers cannot sell to Canadians. Unless they live in the US. Some kind of trade agreement.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:50 AM   #10
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ding ding ding!!!

i agree with all of these and this is what i did.

i emailed all the dealers around me. once i got the best price i asked the others to match. none would come close to the one i purchased from.
I emailed 6 dealers and visited 3 in my quest for a Camaro.

Two dealers fell out of the running when their online ad "price" was proven to be BS , adding in "programs" that virtually no one qualifies for, and then not putting any disclaimers in the text of the Ad. Pretty blatant false advertising.

Of the other 4 dealers, another 2 were "We are one price dealerships", where they inflate the vehicles price, and then lowball on the trade in. Huge margin on their numbers over what I eventually settled on. Like $5k huge. I asked them if that was their first offer. They said, "That's our price". I left.
(People actually fall for this horseshirt?)

Another dealer had a 2LS at a great price, but it was proven to be a demo from a recent car show. They insisted it was "new". Technically, it was, but driven (more like beat on) probably by about 1000 people over the course of a week. Yeah, no thanks.
IN the meantime.....courtesy of the knowledge gleaned on this site, I got a $1000.00 dollar private offer. Sweet !!!!!!
I did my own search online, and travelled 45 miles to buy my car. In the color I wanted, at a great price.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:57 AM   #11
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Thanks for the tips so far, people! I'll take all what you can give!

I sent an e-mail to the person that originally helped me asking for the price he would have gave; I also told him I'll be checking other dealers for lower prices than his, because that's only fair.

Buying in the US is something I definitely considered, but I don't even know where to start.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:03 PM   #12
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He wanted me to call him, so I did. He said since I know the invoice, I have an idea what the dealer gets for a gain. He wants to meet this week to discuss the options for the cars and "negotiate" a fair deal. What does he mean by that? should I be wary of something?
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:09 PM   #13
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I emailed a bunch of dealers around town then took the best 2 and went for a chat with each. Turned out the 2nd was the better deal and was more willing to negotiate with me even further. Just have to see what they are willing to do for you and like said don't be afraid to walk away.

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Dang man, $50K for an SS. That's rough.
It was a vert... I believe. That seems to be the list price around me for a convertible SS
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:20 PM   #14
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Talk to meltdownaverted she works at the Brooks dealership.

Hope to see you cruising the streets soon.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:29 PM   #15
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I emailed a bunch of dealers around town then took the best 2 and went for a chat with each. Turned out the 2nd was the better deal and was more willing to negotiate with me even further. Just have to see what they are willing to do for you and like said don't be afraid to walk away.



It was a vert... I believe. That seems to be the list price around me for a convertible SS
It's actually a 2SS/RS. Canada is expensive.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:30 PM   #16
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Talk to meltdownaverted she works at the Brooks dealership.

Hope to see you cruising the streets soon.
I just sent a PM. Thank you so much! The price at MSRP is something that can kill me, and with few dealers around, I feel that it will be hard to find something I can afford which would also work for the dealer.

How is it to drive a Camaro in our lovely winters?

EDIT: Do you know of any other dealers that have been favorable in interaction in regards to pricing for you or others in Alberta?
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Welcome, TheAbyss!

It's been great to follow your Camaro story and to see that the community here has given you some great insight. Hope to hear that you've found a great deal on your first SS!

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Old 05-21-2013, 10:10 PM   #18
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Welcome, TheAbyss!

It's been great to follow your Camaro story and to see that the community here has given you some great insight. Hope to hear that you've found a great deal on your first SS!

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The community was amazing. I laughed with them, stared in awe with them and loved the C5F pictures of the first one where they all wasted time. Fbodfather sure knows how to hype up a whole community in regards to anything, and to let them calm down after the release of something (as they rarely all like it at first). PrimmaDonna's cheerfulness always gets me; her Camaro has brought her a great deal of happiness that accompanies the love of a car.
I also witnessed the rise of Chevy's new cars and the remodeling of the old ones. I always encouraged acquaintances to check out GM's lineups, and Chevy's, more specifically.

I'm still looking around! few black 2013 SS out there in Alberta, and their price is quite high for my ability. I'm trying to save a few bucks here and there in order to have a car that I want with a life that I can live. Thank you for the reply!
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:41 PM   #19
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hey, I stumbled upon this website and it amazed me how much it saves. Truecar.com is the site. I entered the car information as well as options that I wanted, and it prompts you for information (name, email, phone number, zip code). After that it shows a list of Truecar authorized dealerships and allows you to check boxes for them to reach out to you. Upon checking the boxes and clicking submit, I received emails from each of the 3 dealerships showing guaranteed savings as well as additional estimated savings. I was amazed since the guaranteed savings alone from one dealership beat out the invoice price configured at aol autos. One might ask, "how does a dealership sell a car below invoice?". I've heard that even the invoice price is not exactly the price that dealerships pay. Since invoice prices nowadays are accessible to the public, I've heard that the actual invoice is hidden.

Anyways, i'm not sure if it works the same for Canada, but I thought this may help you get the best deal. It sure put a smile on my face when I found I could save an additional $992 off what Aol autos said to be the invoice amount.
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hey, I stumbled upon this website and it amazed me how much it saves. Truecar.com is the site. I entered the car information as well as options that I wanted, and it prompts you for information (name, email, phone number, zip code). After that it shows a list of Truecar authorized dealerships and allows you to check boxes for them to reach out to you
I tried Truecar-which one dealer gave me a pretty good baseline as far as what the new car should sell for. His car was black, I wanted Blue Ray. By the time we connected, there was no time for a dealer trade.
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I tried Truecar-which one dealer gave me a pretty good baseline as far as what the new car should sell for. His car was black, I wanted Blue Ray. By the time we connected, there was no time for a dealer trade.
I would be wary if I was you about what dealers can/can't do. They will always push you to pick a car off of their lot over trading, as well as locating one over ordering.

My tips to looking for the best deal:

-know what you want and stick to it

-never accept first offers.. they are always low.. that goes for car price, trade in or finacing.. they are always too low (if they are being stubborn, give them the whole "well this dealership said....")

-if they have something on the lot that is similar, show disinterest (ex. "these extra options add more money I can't spare" "its not my style" "If im going to spend this much money, I would like it to have what i'm looking for") even if you are willing to take the vehicle they show you, stating your disinterest gives you leverage into lowering the vehicle price

-if you have a trade in.. research blue and black book values, print and bring them with you..

-use the TrueCar website! it gives even more savings then AOL Autos listed as invoice with options! if you cant get to a truecar dealer, then use the aol auto or even print out a truecar certificate from another dealership and make them compete or you'll move your business to another dealership!



--my TLDR personal story--

I made it clear that it was either my color and options, or no sale. They all tried pushing a car off their lot, failed. A few of them located one in Georgia, and the 2 that couldn't locate said I couldn't order. After telling them that I knew from calling Chevrolet themselves and finding that they can order until 6/27/13 they made up some bs story about why they thought they couldn't and offered to order.

After getting fed up with all the bs from local dealerships, I decided to drive to Rick Hendrick's Chevrolet in Georgia since they had exactly what I was looking for.
I showed them my TrueCar Certificate and the salesman said that after meeting with the higher ups, the certificate wouldn't apply because it "doesn't apply to special editions including the 1LE".. I told them that was odd since the 1LE is a selection on the website, AND the certificate only excluded the ZL1. He came back with a manager who tried to pressure me into it saying things like -you drove all the way from florida -its a rare model -you enjoyed the test drive... but I didn't budge.. and eventually caved in to giving me the true car price..
I gave them print outs for my 2013 v6 Camaro.. was blue booked at 26,000.. black book value said 23,600 but they don't have selection for 2013.. asked for 24,500 and didn't budge.. told them "im practically giving you extra money asking for 24,500.. c'mon youre already making money off the sale
On financing, got them to drop 1%... this is the only part that I feel is hard to have control over especially since I have bad credit.. but all in all I saved $3,400 over the window sticker.. I told them vinyl protection and nitrogen in the tires is not worth 100's of dollars and i'm not paying for air and clear stickers..

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Anyways, gl with your purchase!
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Here's one tip that a friend of mine does that works every time.

1.Go to a Ford dealer.
2.Take a test drive in a new 5.0 Mustang.
3. Drive it directly into the Chevy lot and park it next to an SS. (say you need to see them side-by-side for a proper comparison)
4. Wait for the Chevy salesman to come out.
5. Let the 2 sales guys duke it out.

You will get all sorts of extra offers like free tank of gas, oil changes for life, dealer cost plus $100, etc, etc. You will find out very quickly how low they really can go on the price.

He does this with trucks every 2 or 3 years, even though he is a die hard Ford truck guy. He'll drive a Silverado over to the Ford lot or a Dodge.
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