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Old 05-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #18
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Check out the Pfadt Sway bar....we also can provide the conversion kit. Once you convert, there will be so many options in the future!
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:45 PM   #19
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With your bone stock SS your absolute first modification should be alignment. The factory aligns to a broad green range to a rather numb set of specs. Find a quality alignment shop and align to these specs.

Front Camber -1.00
Front Toe 0.00

Rear Camber 0.00
Rear Toe IN 0.10
Rear Total Toe 0.20
O rear camber? Cant see this being any help for corners we are running -1.4 front and rear is maxxed at -1.2, please explain why 0 rear camber with help a car turning hard?
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:54 PM   #20
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Well rear is just rite at max camber and front is a good in the middle for a daily driven car/ a car that runs full season every event autocross (also wanted to have a hotter/ more aggressive alignment than the buddies stock ZL1 for bragging rights lol) also helps to have unlimited free use of our alignment rack at work
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:59 AM   #21
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O rear camber? Cant see this being any help for corners we are running -1.4 front and rear is maxxed at -1.2, please explain why 0 rear camber with help a car turning hard?
Your Camaro has a square wheel and tire set up, 1LE, suspension, etc. It is far from stock. What is the #1 issue common to all SS models when driven hard?
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:24 AM   #22
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Your Camaro has a square wheel and tire set up, 1LE, suspension, etc. It is far from stock. What is the #1 issue common to all SS models when driven hard?
Understeer...
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:31 AM   #23
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This, My car looked like yours around the cones, and that is a 2012 with the better suspension! It was a workout swinging around the cones with all that understeer.I DID THE pFADT ZL1 SPEC BARS, then the springs, then now wider wheels and rad arm bushings.The bars, then springs really helped keeping the car flat around the turns and alot less understeer. Felt like you could now focus on speed and driving
Pfadt is awesome! Highly recommend sway bars, very reasonable price for a world of difference.

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Old 05-25-2013, 03:03 AM   #24
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Your Camaro has a square wheel and tire set up, 1LE, suspension, etc. It is far from stock. What is the #1 issue common to all SS models when driven hard?
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Understeer...
hard to decide between understeer or the booty swaying or brake fade

ummmm ya understeer...car pushes and keeps pushing until you get fed up and upgrade. hate turning the wheel and the rear wheels decide to drive the car forward. would rather have oversteer atleast the driver can correct that.


a solid alignment changes the car. I did the street/track compromise as I dont feel like getting 2 alignments every other week for my dd and road course car. some bushings and sways and alignment will make your car go where you want and get you a lot closer to neutral steering.
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The alignment I spec's for a stock SS, balances the car.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:31 AM   #26
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hard to decide between understeer or the booty swaying or brake fade

ummmm ya understeer...car pushes and keeps pushing until you get fed up and upgrade. hate turning the wheel and the rear wheels decide to drive the car forward. would rather have oversteer atleast the driver can correct that.
Couple of thoughts here . . . autocross probably approaches controlled testing, particularly on successive runs. In any event, just the course walking removes most of the "surprise" factor (for which you'd be better served in street driving by having a minimal amount of understeer present).

Another factor is yaw damping, which decreases with speed. "Tossable" at autocross is likely to become too loose as speeds rise.


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a solid alignment changes the car. I did the street/track compromise as I dont feel like getting 2 alignments every other week for my dd and road course car. some bushings and sways and alignment will make your car go where you want and get you a lot closer to neutral steering.
I'd seriously consider getting the rear set to whatever "best overall average" settings and play with the front between daily and competition settings with camber plates yourself. This really doesn't have to be much more than turning wrenches and jacking the corner once you know where to put things (for several years I did just this with a shim-adjusted 1979 Malibu, with up to about 2° camber difference). Less negative front camber for a little more understeer on the street, more negative for competition, which I think will tend to drag the front toe in the outward direction just a little.


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