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Old 07-08-2009, 09:20 PM   #18
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Its clunkier than expected. According to the reviews it was very smooth. That was before the redesign though. It has to be the changes they made to beef it up that made it clunky.
Specifically the syncros
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Its clunkier than expected. According to the reviews it was very smooth. That was before the redesign though. It has to be the changes they made to beef it up that made it clunky.
Specifically the syncros
Is it enough to maybe take the automatic transmission over the M6?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:51 PM   #20
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I don't think you can compare a 99 Firehawk to this trans fairly, can you? Wasn't that a Tremec?

I don't have shifting issues (600 miles), but my first impression was that the throws are long. It is the factory unit in a V6 so I'm not phased. Maybe the Hurst will find its way into my car some day.
Obviously it isn't a direct comparison. Although, smoothness of shift shouldn't be defined by the amount of power in a car.

I also owned a pontiac solstice with an Aisin transmission and it was smoother then this.

Again, I'm not saying its unusable, just that it could (and probably should) be smoother.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:57 PM   #21
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Is it enough to maybe take the automatic transmission over the M6?
Well thats your call I guess. If your lucky enough to drive both before you buy then do it. I still like the manual. Like some others said, its the shift into second thats an issue. Its doesnt go into second as easy as the rest.

Here are the posts on the changes by somebody "in the know". From what he said it makes sense you would notice something on Second.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1259

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=17
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Well thats your call I guess. If your lucky enough to drive both before you buy then do it. I still like the manual. Like some others said, its the shift into second thats an issue. Its doesnt go into second as easy as the rest.

Here are the posts on the changes by somebody "in the know". From what he said it makes sense you would notice something on Second.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1259

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=17
So is this every single V6 M6 that has the abnormal shift into 2nd or just certain ones?
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There were only a handful of M6 V6 cars made without the redesign. Some pre-production M6 V6's were used in many reviews. Number 3's is probably the only production vin with the original trans design. Or at least the only one I've heard of.
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guess i better buff up before i take delivery in hopefully a few days
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Is it just forceful shifting or is it actually crunchy throwing it into 2nd?
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Is it just forceful shifting or is it actually crunchy throwing it into 2nd?
Not crunchy but for me it is "bumpy". You know?
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There were only a handful of M6 V6 cars made without the redesign. Some pre-production M6 V6's were used in many reviews. Number 3's is probably the only production vin with the original trans design. Or at least the only one I've heard of.
Number 3s wasn't production - it was CTF.
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Not crunchy but for me it is "bumpy". You know?
And with me it's also forceful shifting. I've been trying to pay more attention to speed and rpm, because it occasionally does shift smoothly. Seems like if you shift at 13mph, 1800 rpm, and the stars are aligned and it's 12:13 pm on Tuesday, it'll shift smoothly into 2nd. Like I said, not a problem, just takes more muscle than I expect.
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And with me it's also forceful shifting. I've been trying to pay more attention to speed and rpm, because it occasionally does shift smoothly. Seems like if you shift at 13mph, 1800 rpm, and the stars are aligned and it's 12:13 pm on Tuesday, it'll shift smoothly into 2nd. Like I said, not a problem, just takes more muscle than I expect.
Well, all of the V6 drivers will have huge right arms for spanking mustangs.
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Guess I'd better dig out my hand weights - for left arm only!
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So you'll be able to spot a manual Camaro driver by their Popeye right arm.

Seriously though its not really hard to put in gear, just not as smooth as expected.
If I can get to try the hurst and its smooth, I'll buy it.

To rate the up-shifts from best to worse
3 - 4
5 - 6
2 - 3
4 - 5 (mostly just a little awkward like a 5 speed)
1 - 2

The clutch is great!
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928 miles on mine, it shifts OK. Second to third is the only time I feel a little clunk.
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928 miles on mine, it shifts OK. Second to third is the only time I feel a little clunk.
Are you sure you don't mean 1st to 2nd like everyone is reporting? I don't understand why yours would be 2nd to 3rd.
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:46 PM   #34
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2nd just isnt as smooth as the others thats really the only difference...but then again if you arent racing it really isnt a issue
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