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Old 06-02-2013, 10:26 PM   #18
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as the case with anything u mod if u cant afford to buy another engine it best not to mod at all.
Can't say I ever heard of this plan. I can afford a new engine but sure in hell don't want to buy one. The car has a rev limiter so how can nitrous damage the engine other than running to many RPM's? Educate me please.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:29 PM   #19
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Can't say I ever heard of this plan. I can afford a new engine but sure in hell don't want to buy one. The car has a rev limiter so how can nitrous damage the engine other than running to many RPM's? Educate me please.
Ever hear a nitrous backfire? You'll be changing more than your shorts!!


Search nitrous backfire on you tube.
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You'll prob just as prone to blowing something up running 16 psi and you would be spraying a 150 shot. Expect anything and everything at the dragstrip. Sometimes just leaving the track with nothing broken is a gd day.

So, with that being said, come this fall if I have a problem the shit will get real bad real fast.


I had a backfire with a 55 shot last year. Sounded like my Labrador farted!
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:35 PM   #22
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I am going to have the Zex nitrous system installed, this is an automatic system that kicks in @ wide open throttle (WOT). Does anyone have this system or one similiar that can tell me about it? I have a M6 transmission.

When you floor it and the nitrous kicks in I would think the RPM's would increase to the red line almost instantly making you have to back off of the throttle, is that how it works? It would seem like you wouldn't be able to shift fast enough to keep from red lining. What kind of feel is it when the nitrous opens? I want that "push me back in the seat" feeling where you can really feel the G's. How about sound, is there any sound difference when the nitrous opens?

If you have a purge system where did you mount the purge nozzle? If you have any advice please lay it on me.




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Russ, I have the Hex dry kit I'm currently using. The nozzle in post maf in the intake tube. No purge, and its wot so once I nail it the nitrous is on until I cross the traps. Still playing with the 55/65 shots right now, having some traction issues mainly in 2nd gear. I don't fell the shot at all.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:25 AM   #23
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Can't say I ever heard of this plan. I can afford a new engine but sure in hell don't want to buy one. The car has a rev limiter so how can nitrous damage the engine other than running to many RPM's? Educate me please.
Detonation, burned and damaged pistons/valves, piston ring lands damaged, wrong plugs, not pulling timing, poor tune, lean afr, bad gas, faulty fuel solenoid are some. You do not rely on the factory tune rev limit, it will cut gas, not good. Your window switch is used so that you spray between certain rpms. Such as 3k to 6300 rpm. Therefore, your nitrous shuts off before you reach your rev limiter value, which you can hit fairly quickly when your spraying and loose traction. The window switch works in conjuction with your wot switch or tps signal, so you only spray during wot and between the rpms you want. You can custom tune to cut spark instead of fuel. If you use an LNC 2000 it has an upper rev limit that cuts spark. The LNC 2000 is used to retard timing. It can be activated by the window switch. So, one scenerio is get your n/a tune correct. Get a wet system, tune the afr with the fuel jet, use a window switch with tps signal, an LNC2000 pull timing and colder plugs. Check out Nitrous Outlet, they have a total package plate system for the camaro. It will give you an idea of what you need.
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Detonation, burned and damaged pistons/valves, piston ring lands damaged, wrong plugs, not pulling timing, poor tune, lean afr, bad gas, faulty fuel solenoid are some. You do not rely on the factory tune rev limit, it will cut gas, not good. Your window switch is used so that you spray between certain rpms. Such as 3k to 6300 rpm. Therefore, your nitrous shuts off before you reach your rev limiter value, which you can hit fairly quickly when your spraying and loose traction. The window switch works in conjuction with your wot switch or tps signal, so you only spray during wot and between the rpms you want. You can custom tune to cut spark instead of fuel. If you use an LNC 2000 it has an upper rev limit that cuts spark. The LNC 2000 is used to retard timing. It can be activated by the window switch. So, one scenerio is get your n/a tune correct. Get a wet system, tune the afr with the fuel jet, use a window switch with tps signal, an LNC2000 pull timing and colder plugs. Check out Nitrous Outlet, they have a total package plate system for the camaro. It will give you an idea of what you need.
Good info. OP, speak with Neal at Nitrous Outlet. Nitrous is his job so he is much better informed then us clowns. He's great to talk to and super helpful. He'll will be able to fit a system for your needs.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:05 PM   #25
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badbubba very good explaining things. nitrous can be fairly safe if u use the right stuff. but it dont take but one mishap. as supercharged ss said a day at the track is a good day when nothing breaks. most cars that run good times usally will have a problem or 2 almost every outting. just nature of the beast. how bad of the problem is just what makes or brakes it lol
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Why is it always the nitrous cars exploding at the track? Doesn't matter how good you are with it. Fact is everything has to be perfect or it blows. Still the riskiest power adder there is period.
this is why most dont like nitrous bad info like this. nitrous has come a long way in the last 5-10 years . its not just push a button and hope all goes well lots of things to monitor and prevent a backfire.
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Most peoples experience with nitrous:


WEEEEEEEEE!

then:

KAAABOOOOOM!

Only if those people don't have a clue what they are doing.
todays systems if done correctly the risk goes WAY down from what it was many years ago.
computers are a wonderful thing.

OP if you do it do it right.. aux fuel system dedicated to the NO2 setup and have someone that knows what they are doing tune it and set it up for you.
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82 Camaro with a 406. Hit button. Went wee. then bang. Left the rearend on the road. 2 seconds were worth it. lol That was 20 yrs ago.
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82 Camaro with a 406. Hit button. Went wee. then bang. Left the rearend on the road. 2 seconds were worth it. lol That was 20 yrs ago.
lol, see even when its bad its good and a life long memory .
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Ive thought about looking into the plate system myself. Looks more safe these days, but Ill def do my research and get the knowledge first.
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this is why most dont like nitrous bad info like this. nitrous has come a long way in the last 5-10 years . its not just push a button and hope all goes well lots of things to monitor and prevent a backfire.
This isn't bad info. Had another nitrous explosion at my track last weekend. Motor toast and t 1.5 hour shutdown to clean up the track. Can't tell you when the last time we've had an FI or NA motor blow up.
People keep saying it's come a long way, but they still keep grenading their engines.

You run what you want, but I'll never touch the N2O.
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I am having RDP Motorsports put the Zex system in, these guys really know what they are doing.

Still wondering where you guys put your purge nozzle if you have one. Also is there any sound difference when the nitrous kicks in? I am curious how I would know when the engine is getting nitrous? Do you really have to push the gas pedal all the way to the floor for it to activate, or will it activate before that point.

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I am having RDP Motorsports put the Zex system in, these guys really know what they are doing.

Still wondering where you guys put your purge nozzle if you have one. Also is there any sound difference when the nitrous kicks in? I am curious how I would know when the engine is getting nitrous? Do you really have to push the gas pedal all the way to the floor for it to activate, or will it activate before that point.

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You should be able to feel it and you'll def be able to see it in your logs. Yes, gas pedal to the floor to achieve max value in the ECM. You can stick the purge anywhere you'd like.
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This isn't bad info. Had another nitrous explosion at my track last weekend. Motor toast and t 1.5 hour shutdown to clean up the track. Can't tell you when the last time we've had an FI or NA motor blow up.
People keep saying it's come a long way, but they still keep grenading their engines.

You run what you want, but I'll never touch the N2O.
thats why they make diff stuff. 1.5 shutdown must be a shitty track for a backfire clean up. i see blower cars blowing oil out all the time down the track . but oh well thats part of racing if u dont like track clean ups then might not want to go to the track cause its almost a fact that theres at least 1 every night.
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