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Old 06-03-2013, 02:05 PM   #2751
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sorry to hear that ur car got burnt up but glad u made it out alive
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Old 06-03-2013, 02:34 PM   #2752
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Very sorry. Horrible thing to have happen.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:04 PM   #2753
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That's brutal man. I feel so bad for you.

I got the run around when I totaled my Blazer X. I held strong and was able to come out okay but definitely didn't make money.

I had put about $20K in parts plus my labor over the years. She was a built motor away from being a total bad ass. I still have the spare engine and all kinds of parts. I was going to build the motor this summer.

I ended up with Roxy my '13 1LE. Hold strong and fight for what you deserve.

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Thank you. That's definitely good to know. Still have no idea how I would even go about setting up a PayPal for something like this

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Im Sick to my stomach and a loss for words.

Reading the responses and looking at pictures now has my mind wondering on how something like this could very well happen.

I'm very very sorry for you loss. Glad youre ok!!!!!!

I hope everything works out for the best in your favor.
Thank you much, I'm hoping for the same thing.

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Seriously RJ?.............. thats the least I can do. The only reason this forum is so great is because of guys like you who are always willing to help out.





Case in point! That's why I love this forum! Thanks guys!!!!

He is going to get Jacked by the insurance company as I've seen it happen many of times before. Justin and I have are insurance license and there's no way to win. RJ has a longer road ahead of him than he probably even realizes. If we each do a little, we can perhaps help him bridge the gap and get him back on the road to modding and posting DIY's on how to mod our Camaros.

Kaylee will be missed.
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I was in shock when i heard about this this morning. My heart sank seeing those pictures bro. Really sorry for the loss of the car. Thank God you got out safe and nobody was hurt.

I'm sure we all want to help out in whatever way we can, which makes the paypal idea a really good one. I'm in.

This thread was really great and fun to read about your adventures with Kaylee. On a positive note, I can't wait to follow you on your journey with your next Camaro.
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sorry to hear that ur car got burnt up but glad u made it out alive
As am I, don't want to imagine how much worse it could have been.
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Very sorry. Horrible thing to have happen.
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Looking at these pictures it just seems hard to believe something like this could happen like that. Although based on that one picture that shows an RB rotor, their rotors are designed to handle racing braking heat... try removing one and checking it out, they may still be good with some clean-up.

Do you know what actually caused it? Was it a fuel leak? Something get pulled up off the road and catch fire? I'm trying to figure out what could have happened to cause this. It actually hurts to look at those pictures. :(
Still no idea, and I'm guessing insurance probably won't care enough to figure out the cause - they probably only care enough to figure out how much they need to pay me.

As for the Racing Brake rotors, this is the response I got from Warren:

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So basically the only way to tell would be to pull off all 4 rotors and inspect them one by one, then if they look "OK" I would have to put them on a car to see if they're still OK to drive.

I love Racing Brake don't get me wrong, they easily make the best rotor on the market for our cars - but I don't think I could in good conscience put these rotors on another camaro to "see" if they're still OK to use. It's just way too big of a gamble.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #2754
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:26 PM   #2755
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Start Here looks like you can just use your same account. Maybe the admin will let you put the donation button in your sig/ and or start a thread.

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Old 06-03-2013, 03:29 PM   #2756
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RJ, about the rotors, you could bring them to a machine shop and have them checked for warpage or a brake shop that has the capacity to turn them straight again. It's worth the effort IMO.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:50 PM   #2757
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Man, I'm off the site for a week and find this. I'm sincerely sorry for the loss. The time you personally put into your mods and personalization of the car can never be recovered.

I hope that you at least get a fair shake from the insurance co. Best of luck to you.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:30 PM   #2758
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Post #2 "modding is an endless money pit" You should not take a dime from anyone as you recognize this as your own responsibility and liability. Sorry, but there are people in dire need all over this world, someone blows up their car and it shouldn't be a monetary priority for ANYONE. I am happy you have no injuries and have my sympathy for loosing an awesome car, but that's as far as it goes. You could afford all the mods, you can afford to replace it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #2759
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Post #2 "modding is an endless money pit" You should not take a dime from anyone as you recognize this as your own responsibility and liability. Sorry, but there are people in dire need all over this world, someone blows up their car and it shouldn't be a monetary priority for ANYONE. I am happy you have no injuries and have my sympathy for loosing an awesome car, but that's as far as it goes. You could afford all the mods, you can afford to replace it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:10 PM   #2760
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As many of you already know RJ's beloved Kaylee burned to the ground last week, and with all the mods done to it, he is sure to come up short with the insurance company. If you would like to help out, a donation button has been set up on Gen5DIY.com. Any help is greatly appreciated...
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As many of you already know RJ's beloved Kaylee burned to the ground last week, and with all the mods done to it, he is sure to come up short with the insurance company. If you would like to help out, a donation button has been set up on Gen5DIY.com. Any help is greatly appreciated...
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:00 PM   #2762
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As many of you already know RJ's beloved Kaylee burned to the ground last week, and with all the mods done to it, he is sure to come up short with the insurance company. If you would like to help out, a donation button has been set up on Gen5DIY.com. Any help is greatly appreciated...
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Post #2 "modding is an endless money pit" You should not take a dime from anyone as you recognize this as your own responsibility and liability. Sorry, but there are people in dire need all over this world, someone blows up their car and it shouldn't be a monetary priority for ANYONE. I am happy you have no injuries and have my sympathy for loosing an awesome car, but that's as far as it goes. You could afford all the mods, you can afford to replace her.
I'm not going to argue that modding is a money pit, and I'm sure no one on this site would argue differently. That's the thing though, I'm not looking to replace Kaylee - I never even considered replacing her, why would I? If I could have this situation play out however I wanted, I'd want it to end with me getting the car that I spent three years pouring my heart, sweat, free weekends, and yes money into back. I'd want my last memory of driving her to not end with me having to scramble out of the driver's seat as flames were coming out from under the hood. I'd want to not get teary eyed whenever I pass a black camaro on the road. But, I can't have those things - and my main crutch for helping me through all of this? You guessed it, Camaro5. Even if no one actually donates anything, the fact that people even offered to makes me feel better.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:32 PM   #2763
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Well considering the first thought that went through my head when I saw flames coming out from under the hood was "**** - why didn't I ever install a fire extinguisher." Because I'm willing to bet that if I'd had a fire extinguisher the only things I would have to replace would be the intake manifold, hood, and maybe some of the engine bay wiring - compared to you know, the whole freaking car.

It only takes that 1% of the time you need it that makes lugging it around for the other 99% worth it.
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Stopped by the junk yard this morning to sign a vehicle release form so that GEICO can take the car when they are finished looking at her. Snapped some photos (caution: not for the faint of heart).


Thought this was kind of funny. The whole front end of the car is completely burned, but my Plasti-Dipped wheels don't have more than a few scuffs on them. So in case anyone was still wondering if Plasti-Dip was safe to use on your engine cove, I'm going to go with "Yes."


Apparently the towing company doesn't feel comfortable not having a fire extinguisher in my car either.
that'll buff out. hope you can laugh a little about life's misfortunes buddy.



RJ, I've already texted you my thoughts and condolences. Keep your head up man.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:37 PM   #2764
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:10 PM   #2765
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that'll buff out. hope you can laugh a little about life's misfortunes buddy.



RJ, I've already texted you my thoughts and condolences. Keep your head up man.
Haha might need to break out the Severe Swirl and Haze Remover though
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:31 PM   #2766
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:06 AM   #2767
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...Still no idea, and I'm guessing insurance probably won't care enough to figure out the cause - they probably only care enough to figure out how much they need to pay me.

....So basically the only way to tell would be to pull off all 4 rotors and inspect them one by one, then if they look "OK" I would have to put them on a car to see if they're still OK to drive.

I love Racing Brake don't get me wrong, they easily make the best rotor on the market for our cars - but I don't think I could in good conscience put these rotors on another camaro to "see" if they're still OK to use. It's just way too big of a gamble.
Well considering the cost of replacing them, it might be worth it to ship them to Warren and have him look them over. If they're no good he doesn't ship them back and that's that. If they are good that could save you a couple grand on your next project build starting with a 1LE from the insurance money you're going to get. A phoenix just might rise from the ashes out of all this.
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Very very severe
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Well considering the cost of replacing them, it might be worth it to ship them to Warren and have him look them over. If they're no good he doesn't ship them back and that's that. If they are good that could save you a couple grand on your next project build starting with a 1LE from the insurance money you're going to get. A phoenix just might rise from the ashes out of all this.
That's what I might do Doc. Only thing is, after having talked with insurance I'll get the choice of two options: car's a total loss and GEICO scraps it (i.e. they take Kaylee) or car is deemed totaled and given a salvage title (at which point I could keep her). So the predicament I'm in is is it better to take the salvage title and then remove whatever parts weren't consumed in the fire - possibly getting a better deal then if I took the "GEICO scraps her" deal.

Now the issue is - I don't know if most of the parts are still usable, and I won't know until I am able to ship them off to Warren (or Pete at Pedders for the coilovers). So I'd be rolling the dice - and I'm not really feeling particularly lucky at the moment.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:51 AM   #2769
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Been following since the beginning witht the highs and lows but this stinks.
I share the comments everyone has stated.
With the amount of heat you said was needed to melt your hood I would really think about those other parts. In the end she can be replaced you can not glad you're ok.
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Been following since the beginning witht the highs and lows but this stinks.
I share the comments everyone has stated.
With the amount of heat you said was needed to melt your hood I would really think about those other parts. In the end she can be replaced you can not glad you're ok.
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Thank you much Keith, really appreciate all the help you've given me with everything.
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Just got off the phone with insurance - The adjuster looked at Kaylee, and needless to say she's a total loss. The rest of our conversation didn't go as well as I would have hoped...

GEICO: you said you did some modifications to the car?

me: yes, mostly cosmetic - but about 2 weeks ago I had new rotors and pads put on the car. I emailed you the receipt, along with all of my other receipts.

GEICO: Haven't checked my email yet as our system is updating currently. "I want to get you as much as I can, but let's say you put new interior panels on the car - they aren't going to add much, if anything, to the car's value. But if you put new rotors on as recent as you said you did, then they might, but say if you spent $1,000 on getting everything installed - it won't add $1,000 to the car."

me: Got it. Well I need to get back to work if that's alright, is there anything else you need from me?

GEICO: Nope. Talk to you soon Raimund *click*

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Old 06-04-2013, 10:13 AM   #2772
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Just got off the phone with insurance - The adjuster looked at Kaylee, and needless to say she's a total loss. The rest of our conversation didn't go as well as I would have hoped...

GEICO: you said you did some modifications to the car?

me: yes, mostly cosmetic - but about 2 weeks ago I had new rotors and pads put on the car. I emailed you the receipt, along with all of my other receipts.

GEICO: Haven't checked my email yet as our system is updating currently. "I want to get you as much as I can, but let's say you put new interior panels on the car - they aren't going to add much, if anything, to the car's value. But if you put new rotors on as recent as you said you did, then they might, but say if you spent $1,000 on getting everything installed - it won't add $1,000 to the car."

me: Got it. Well I need to get back to work if that's alright, is there anything else you need from me?

GEICO: Nope. Talk to you soon Raimund *click*

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Geeze man, you have my eyes tearing up at work. I know how much you love that car.


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If it had been totaled in a wreck you'd have all kinds of stuff that could be parted out. Problem with a fire is not much is salvageable for parts. Print out everything you sent him in emails and hand it to him to make sure nothing is "overlooked" or missed. Request a statement of accounting as to how they arrive at whatever amount they say they're going to give you, and let them know you want that BEFORE they tell you the payoff amount. Do you own the title to the car? If not, then they may try and send a check to the title holder(s) to get out of the obligation as quickly as possible. He's already indicating they aren't going to give you what you want so make noise now about seeing how they calculate the settlement before they issue it.
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Just got off the phone with insurance - The adjuster looked at Kaylee, and needless to say she's a total loss. The rest of our conversation didn't go as well as I would have hoped...

GEICO: you said you did some modifications to the car?

me: yes, mostly cosmetic - but about 2 weeks ago I had new rotors and pads put on the car. I emailed you the receipt, along with all of my other receipts.

GEICO: Haven't checked my email yet as our system is updating currently. "I want to get you as much as I can, but let's say you put new interior panels on the car - they aren't going to add much, if anything, to the car's value. But if you put new rotors on as recent as you said you did, then they might, but say if you spent $1,000 on getting everything installed - it won't add $1,000 to the car."

me: Got it. Well I need to get back to work if that's alright, is there anything else you need from me?

GEICO: Nope. Talk to you soon Raimund *click*

me:

As with everyone else I will be able to help if I can.

Go figure though with insurance they are supper stingy when it comes to fixing or replacing something but they will take your money in a heartbeat when it comes to you paying higher rates. Hope everything works out in the end!
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Son of a bitch!!! You have to be kidding me. I always check in on your thread, and then I find this happens to you and the car. First of all, I'm really happy you are okay, and that alone is what matters. However, that doesn't eliminate the crazy sting you are feeling loosing your car. I know you put a ton of time, effort, money, and love building your car, and it was an amazing Camaro that has always been a favorite of mine. It's more than just a car regardless of what some car owners feel about their own car. I can't imagine how you feel right now, but keep your head up the best you can. I wish you the best man!
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