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Old 06-03-2013, 12:36 PM   #341
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I talked with Chevy at G17 the front and rear fascia on the 2014 can be swapped with the original fascias so

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Wow that's excellent news if this is 100 percent fact!!
2014 plus 2010-2013 rear equals HUGE win!!
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:38 PM   #342
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sorry fellas but dont like the changes
i lam glad i bought the 12 ZL1

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although I agree with you to a certain extent. Meaning the only thing I can't stand is the rears on the 14's...I would still rather have your car a million times over!!
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Old 06-03-2013, 02:00 PM   #343
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Very familiar with the "heritage" and the taillights from the previous generations and they do not look like Hondas, maybe similar shaped but they also weren't a solid light/cover and had trim in between them (first gen. that is)..
And maybe you would like to take a look at the 2nd gen. Mr. Heritage, that is right?
So if you like them maybe your a ricer at heart but I'll stand by what I feel they look like on this generation and that's...


Hopefully they smarten up and redo the 6 gen right!!
Hence why I said "Sure, but there weren't many years where the Camaro had taillights similar to the 2010-2013 years." The 2010-2013 Camaro taillights are only similar to 2nd gen Camaros from 1970-1973... HUH, go figure From 1974 through 2002, the taillights are more in line with the 2014's taillights. First gen taillights are still the similar trapezoid shape - just flat instead of wrapping around the bumper.

What does a "ricer at heart" have anything to do with liking taillights that are a direct descendant from the Camaro taillights from 1974 through 2002?

Since we're sharing pictures -- let's look at the heritage of Camaro taillights... Flat, trapezoid shaped 1967 to 1969... Two circles 1970 to 1973... Wrap-around trapezoid 1974 to 2002... Two circles 2010 to 2013... Wrap-around trapezoid 2014+...

"Late 5th Generation":


"Early 5th Generation":


4th Generation (there were two styles 93-96 and 97+ but it's just a lense change, so I'm not going to post separate pics):


3rd Generation:


Late 2nd Generation:


Early 2nd Generation:


1st Generation, though flat, carries the same trapezoid shape:
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:48 PM   #344
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May be minor detail to some,but i do like the non RS h/lamps better on the 14' than on previous models,
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:46 AM   #345
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I apologize. This is way off topic, but I've tried searching the forums, and it keeps bombing out on me. Anyone know of a forum thread that discusses the best child safety seats for the back of this not so stereotypical mommy mobile? Thanks!

This is where you should start a new thread that others with similar interests can search for. Maybe the Moderators will forgive you for being new and move these posts.
Check out the Rumi-Air Booster by Safety 1st. It has the side impact air pillows and a smooth solid bottom that does not stretch out your seats. I do agree with some of the negative reviews, in that the crotch buckle is very short.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:04 AM   #346
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Hey man Awesome, look what I found for you!
Perfect, even has your tail lights you love!
Enjoy!
I think everyone's entitled to their opinions - that said, there's a civil way of saying it.

Mr. Meissen happened to be hired by GM in the not-so-distant past.....

While he may not work on the Camaro team, you might find it iinteresting to know that he's put on one heck of a Camaro show every year for many years now. He's worked tirelessly to do so and receives no compensation to do this. Further, he raises money for a local charity. He's forgotten more about the history of Camaro than many people will ever know....

Team Camaro supports his show in Milford, MI each year.

Calling him a 'Ricer' and posting that last picture, I think, calls for an apology on your part.

It's OK to not like the new taillamps - you've made that abundantly clear........but I ask you:

HAVE YOU SEEN THEM IN PERSON?

If not, I encourage you to perhaps withhold judgement about them until you 'meet' a 2014 in person.....just as I, along with Mr. Meissen will withhold judgement of you until we meet you in person.
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I think everyone's entitled to their opinions - that said, there's a civil way of saying it.

Mr. Meissen happened to be hired by GM in the not-so-distant past.....

While he may not work on the Camaro team, you might find it iinteresting to know that he's put on one heck of a Camaro show every year for many years now. He's worked tirelessly to do so and receives no compensation to do this. Further, he raises money for a local charity. He's forgotten more about the history of Camaro than many people will ever know....

Team Camaro supports his show in Milford, MI each year.

Calling him a 'Ricer' and posting that last picture, I think, calls for an apology on your part.

It's OK to not like the new taillamps - you've made that abundantly clear........but I ask you:

HAVE YOU SEEN THEM IN PERSON?

If not, I encourage you to perhaps withhold judgement about them until you 'meet' a 2014 in person.....just as I, along with Mr. Meissen will withhold judgement of you until we meet you in person.
Thanks for the kind words, Scott.
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I have also seen both the first pictures of the 2014's that were posted on Camaro5, and I've seen a whole bunch of the 2014's up close and personal last Saturday at Brian's annual Fbody Meet & Greet.

the cars in real life look much better (including the tail lights) than they do in the pictures.

I'm not a fan of how high up the rear the diffusers extend, but other than that, the cars look very good.

Just wait till you have a chance to see the cars in real life before you make up your mind about the tail lights. If you see them and still don't care for them, that's fine. Just withhold final judgement untill you do.

And, no, Brian is not a ricer by a long shot.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:03 PM   #349
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Off topic, but I feel a kinship to anyone who mods their car to make it less ordinary. I may or may not appreciate their taste, but looking down on anyone is a sign of insecurity.

And to add to that several "ricer" Hondas and Subarus have shown my "cooler" SS their taillights at the drags. So respect to any fellow car enthusiast.

Back on topic. Love the '14s. More aggressive looking! Wanna get one once I can order with a price. And those Recaros..... Hope I fit and they are at least some what comfortable on long trips. Anyone spent any time in one?

Any change to the current Camaro would bring out the haters. And being a hater is Okay. Just be civil about it.
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:34 PM   #350
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I talked with Chevy at G17 the front and rear fascia on the 2014 can be swapped with the original fascias so
I still say you'll need a new trunk lid and spoiler!
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:11 PM   #351
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If anything they killed the front not the back, would of been nice to see more corvette like tails.
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:47 PM   #352
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Here are a few pictures of a 2014 Camaro LS -- note there are no options shown on this car - replacing the steel wheels are the 18 inch aluminum wheels....

Reaction to the car was overwhelmingly positive at the Delaware River Valley Camaro Club's Annual Camaro/Firebird show in Wilmington....people seem to really like the base grille.
I like the new trunk lid, and I liked the steel wheels were dropped. the LS looks good .
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Here are a few pictures of a 2014 Camaro LS -- note there are no options shown on this car - replacing the steel wheels are the 18 inch aluminum wheels....

Reaction to the car was overwhelmingly positive at the Delaware River Valley Camaro Club's Annual Camaro/Firebird show in Wilmington....people seem to really like the base grille.
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Old 06-09-2013, 03:54 AM   #354
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.......do we see a pattern here?
I feel like I need to put my own two cents in here. I understand what you're saying, and I'm sure that an awful lot of that kind of stuff goes on. People hate change, and people love to complain about stupid things. But I think it's really easy to fall into the trap of looking at everything through that lens and ignoring valid criticism.

This immediately came to mind with me because you used the steering wheel as an example and I don't think it's a good one. The 2010 steering wheel has a lot of issues. I personally think it looks cool, but it's not so easy on the hands and I drive with it every day. The ergonomic issues were a valid complaint. So you went about fixing it, which is good. But you just replaced one problem with another by swapping in an almost bog standard wheel. So now it feels fine but it doesn't look as nice. That wouldn't have stopped me from buying a new model, but it would bother me every time I looked at it. So both complaints were and are still valid even though people have moved on.

Now as for the styling of the refresh, I am in the camp that doesn't like it. My personal opinion is that the original designer did such a great job that there wasn't much that could be done for a major refresh to improve it. But, like with the steering wheel being out of the parts bin, the business dictated that the styling had to change. I get that. But it still makes me question the taste of the company that let it through and I don't think I could bring myself to buy one again. Just doesn't hit me in the heart the way it used to.

That just goes to show you that a group of perfectly competent people can still turn out a product that has issues. It happens for a lot of reasons. But please, please listen to your customers and evaluate each complaint objectively. Otherwise it can become a slow spiral down. And it has happened before to GM and the other American car companies and it wasn't pretty.
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That god awful tacky chrome strip has got to go...

It KILLS the looks of the front end.



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The white car on the left looks ok (WITHOUT the awful chrome stuff)...

But to be honest the Camaro in the middle with the chrome "stuff" is just horrible looking...

It looks so "out of place" and kinda makes no sense of why it's there... It kinda looks like a head brace or something, like the car is injured.
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That god awful tacky chrome strip has got to go...

It KILLS the looks of the front end.



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