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Old 04-25-2013, 01:35 PM   #126
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No need for the breather cap.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:02 PM   #127
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THR is correct. The ZL1 comes with a good clean side separator (the small black plastic canister on the inside radius of the air tube coupler).

The single valve is fine for easy driving, the dual valve gives redundant evac at WOT so for hard driving the dual valve.

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Old 04-25-2013, 02:32 PM   #128
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Thanks, I sent them an email asking for their opinion as to which would suit my driving style. They recommended a single can. The email also mentions they have an optional "breather cap" and I have no idea if that is necessary. Any thoughts on that? I appreciate your assistance/knowledge. Thanks, I'll place my order real soon. What color did you order, I'm thinking black?
if you ever plan on going on a road course with long straits dual can can't hurt.

there is a petcock like a radiator on the bottom of the can and that is connected to a drain tube. when you change the oil you just drain the can as well into you drain pan.

this is a plus minus. there is nothing to unscrew or spill but you do have to let the oil drain a bit or a couple drops will hit the ground as it stays in the tube a bit. I am only at 3k but there was enough in the can I am glad I added it. I have a rare war injury that left a huge piece of lead in my right foot though.

when it comes to color they stock black sometiems so since my car is ashen gray I just went black. the other color can take a bit longer to get in your hands.
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:12 PM   #129
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Here are some pic of the mounting. I straightened the bracket to just a L shape so it would mount correctly and ran the hoses where they are not so obvious. I mounted the can to the bracket and then mounted the bracket and can to the frame area. There are 2 threaded holes on the frame the exact size of the bolt supplied. I used the outer threaded bolt hole as my mounting point. Use a lock washer on the bottom bolt so it does not loosen up. I have had this car on the drag strip and daily driving. It works great in this mounting area and is not so obtrusive to the engine bay.
I really like this spot for the can. Seems like a solid mounting. Gotta decide on a single/dual. I really appreciate everyone's input/advise. Thanks
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Old 04-26-2013, 06:38 PM   #130
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Thanks to everyone's input, it truly was a big help. I ordered the RX Dual Check Valve Catch Can. Two week backlog so hopefully in three weeks tops I can get the install going. Flat black can and I may upgrade the hoses. I'll post a pic after install. Again thanks for all the help.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:02 PM   #131
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:53 AM   #132
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[QUOTE=Skylane765;6202870]Install the CC in a cool place, it will condense better and do what is made
Like this location. Does CC in air box area put much heat into cool air for engine? Looking at RX can is there a spot for drain hose?
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Install the CC in a cool place, it will condense better and do what is made
Like this location. Does CC in air box area put much heat into cool air for engine? Looking at RX can is there a spot for drain hose?
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The residence time in the catch can isn't probably long enough to cause the significant heat up inside the cool air zone for the intake.

In fact, I'd venture to bet that no matter where you put it, unless you have a very good heat shield around a CAI, it really doesn't matter where in the engine bay you mount it because the single biggest heat source is the engine and everything in the engine bay will approach the engine temperature the closer you get to it and since there's only so much space you have in the bay I'd mount it whereever you like.

I'm not saying Skylane is wrong, because, in chemical engineering and separations theory he is absolutely correct [Chem E here], I'm merely stating you have limited options in the engine bay and that every where in the engine bay gets warms.
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The residence time in the catch can isn't probably long enough to cause the significant heat up inside the cool air zone for the intake.

In fact, I'd venture to bet that no matter where you put it, unless you have a very good heat shield around a CAI, it really doesn't matter where in the engine bay you mount it because the single biggest heat source is the engine and everything in the engine bay will approach the engine temperature the closer you get to it and since there's only so much space you have in the bay I'd mount it whereever you like.

I'm not saying Skylane is wrong, because, in chemical engineering and separations theory he is absolutely correct [Chem E here], I'm merely stating you have limited options in the engine bay and that every where in the engine bay gets warms.
Just looks like more out of the way place.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:25 AM   #135
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Hi All,

If I order the RX Dual check Can how do I install when I have the factory intake system? I understand from reading the thread how to install the valley cover and vac port tubes. But for the second valve on the can which gets connected to the intake tube, how do I install? Thanks for the help.
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If I order the RX Dual check Can how do I install when I have the factory intake system? I understand from reading the thread how to install the valley cover and vac port tubes. But for the second valve on the can which gets connected to the intake tube, how do I install? Thanks for the help.
just drill a 1/2 hole in the factory rubber tube and thread the fitting it. throw some rtv at the threads if you hole dose not come out perfect.

It is really simple once you do it.
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If I order the RX Dual check Can how do I install when I have the factory intake system? I understand from reading the thread how to install the valley cover and vac port tubes. But for the second valve on the can which gets connected to the intake tube, how do I install? Thanks for the help.
Roto-Fab has a T inlet that replaces the 90* angle inlet on the air intake elbow. You could probably order that T from them. Watch their CAI install video, its very easy to replace if you don't want to drill a new hole/and then have to thread.
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just drill a 1/2 hole in the factory rubber tube and thread the fitting it. throw some rtv at the threads if you hole dose not come out perfect.

It is really simple once you do it.

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Old 06-06-2013, 09:41 PM   #139
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Attachment 498698Davenport Motorsports installed the elite can on my ZL1 with one of elites existing brackets
so the hose on the middle fitting of the Elite can attach to the upper or lower fitting on the intake? I received my Elite can last week after pissing away over a month's time waiting on a certain POS forum vendor that wasted my time with me ordering from his website.

I will be installing my Elite can this weekend and I want to make sure I get the connections right.
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Hi everybody! Got my RX Dual Check Valve Catch Can today! I was going over everything before starting my install, sort of a dry run if you will, and I noticed the "T" from Roto Fab CAI, I haven't installed the T yet, but its not 3/8th like the RX can and hoses. So what is the solution? Force the 3/8th hose on? Is there a coupler that goes 3/8 to 1/4? What did you do?

Also from reading the various threads, there are NO Clear and Concise instructions on the hoses. Best I could find is the diagram below. Which is very good, but nowhere else could I find good instructions. I'm not mounting it to the radiator shroud, I like the tnspd & zfuzz in post #58. They used the already threaded hole at the bottom of the radiator, into the frame member. It's just more out of the way and if the drain hose ever drips it can drip directly onto the ground.

Just wish the can was marked/stamped 1,2,3 or a,b,c, then you would know exactly where each hose goes. I gotta ask charlietuna if he ever connected the Roto fab hose, and what did he do when the hose wouldn't fit onto the "T"!!!???
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Hi everybody! Got my RX Dual Check Valve Catch Can today! I was going over everything before starting my install, sort of a dry run if you will, and I noticed the "T" from Roto Fab CAI, I haven't installed the T yet, but its not 3/8th like the RX can and hoses. So what is the solution? Force the 3/8th hose on? Is there a coupler that goes 3/8 to 1/4? What did you do?

Also from reading the various threads, there are NO Clear and Concise instructions on the hoses. Best I could find is the diagram below. Which is very good, but nowhere else could I find good instructions. I'm not mounting it to the radiator shroud, I like the tnspd & zfuzz in post #58. They used the already threaded hole at the bottom of the radiator, into the frame member. It's just more out of the way and if the drain hose ever drips it can drip directly onto the ground.

Just wish the can was marked/stamped 1,2,3 or a,b,c, then you would know exactly where each hose goes. I gotta ask charlietuna if he ever connected the Roto fab hose, and what did he do when the hose wouldn't fit onto the "T"!!!???
one of the threads back someone posted a link to the reducers you need. Let me see if I can find it.
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Norma; how long did it take for you to get your Catch Can anyway?
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Norma; how long did it take for you to get your Catch Can anyway?
Thanks for the link, I read so many threads on catch can installs I went crossed eyed there for a while. Anyway to answer your question I ordered my RX Catch Can on 4-24-13, and it arrived today! Yeah, it was a long wait, just wish the connectors on top were labeled. Sent an email to Phastek Perdormance, ordered my CAI thru them, they asked me to give them a call. Will do tomorrow, curious to see their solution. Again, thanks for the link.
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Thanks for the link, I read so many threads on catch can installs I went crossed eyed there for a while. Anyway to answer your question I ordered my RX Catch Can on 4-24-13, and it arrived today! Yeah, it was a long wait, just wish the connectors on top were labeled. Sent an email to Phastek Perdormance, ordered my CAI thru them, they asked me to give them a call. Will do tomorrow, curious to see their solution. Again, thanks for the link.
Normagene, did you get a single or dual valve.I know it was a long wait but the can now will protect your BABY from getting all JACKED up inside,,,, Love that mine is on knowing the shit its collecting is not getting in. When you see all the other posts with pictures of what a motor looks like with out one it sure is the way to go. Every zl1 owner should have one, Don't care about what brand as long as its a reputable catch can.
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Hi everybody! Got my RX Dual Check Valve Catch Can today! I was going over everything before starting my install, sort of a dry run if you will, and I noticed the "T" from Roto Fab CAI, I haven't installed the T yet, but its not 3/8th like the RX can and hoses. So what is the solution? Force the 3/8th hose on? Is there a coupler that goes 3/8 to 1/4? What did you do?

Also from reading the various threads, there are NO Clear and Concise instructions on the hoses. Best I could find is the diagram below. Which is very good, but nowhere else could I find good instructions. I'm not mounting it to the radiator shroud, I like the tnspd & zfuzz in post #58. They used the already threaded hole at the bottom of the radiator, into the frame member. It's just more out of the way and if the drain hose ever drips it can drip directly onto the ground.

Just wish the can was marked/stamped 1,2,3 or a,b,c, then you would know exactly where each hose goes. I gotta ask charlietuna if he ever connected the Roto fab hose, and what did he do when the hose wouldn't fit onto the "T"!!!???
The tee end is 1/2 inch, Need to get 1/2 in hose and a 3/8 to 1/2 in coupler. If you need to find 1/2 in to 3/8 coupler and you cant find one, JEGS has them, I can send you the link if you need one.
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The tee end is 1/2 inch, Need to get 1/2 in hose and a 3/8 to 1/2 in coupler. If you need to find 1/2 in to 3/8 coupler and you cant find one, JEGS has them, I can send you the link if you need one.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Gates/465/2860...ductId=1571522 They have them in stock
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Thanks Joe. G-Oil Guy gave me that same link earlier. I'll talk to Phastek Performance first and see what's up. I got the Dual Can, 3 hoses, and just the plain rubber hoses, nothing fancy, and they don't have a check valve in them either. Not sure why that is.? But the braided lines do. Anyway, should get this in tomorrow or whenever the part comes in if I have to order one.
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Just out of curiosity, I haven't installed yet, but what would happen if it was connected the complete opposite of the below diagram. In other words the intake to the manifold, I guess the center hose would still be the same, to the valley cover, and the manifold to the CAI. Just wondering what would happen. I'm assuming that the manifold hose, the first one closest to the mounting handle/bracket, but it seems just as easily somebody could turn the can around and reverse the process since the can isn't marked. Would it throw a code immediately? Just wondering, be so easy to stamp the can inlets and preclude any misconceptions on the proper procedures.
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Mine is reversed like you're wondering. No codes at all. I don't think it matters.
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Just out of curiosity, I haven't installed yet, but what would happen if it was connected the complete opposite of the below diagram. In other words the intake to the manifold, I guess the center hose would still be the same, to the valley cover, and the manifold to the CAI. Just wondering what would happen. I'm assuming that the manifold hose, the first one closest to the mounting handle/bracket, but it seems just as easily somebody could turn the can around and reverse the process since the can isn't marked. Would it throw a code immediately? Just wondering, be so easy to stamp the can inlets and preclude any misconceptions on the proper procedures.
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It would not matter, both ports do the same thing. It's just a bit cleaner to install like the diagram.

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