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Old 06-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1
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Hauling a ZL1 in a enclosed trailer?

I live in Northern Ontario in a the years to come would like to take my car with me to the Southern States for our winter break. I would really prefer to carry the car in an enclosed trailer to eliminate milage and any chance of road salt. All the 8'.5"w x 20' L trailers I have looked at seem to be a real tight fit as this car is so wide.
Has anyone hauled their car in an enclosed trailer? If so please give me the trailer details and how you felt your car fitted width wise.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:21 PM   #2
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I live in Northern Ontario in a the years to come would like to take my car with me to the Southern States for our winter break. I would really prefer to carry the car in an enclosed trailer to eliminate milage and any chance of road salt. All the 8'.5"w x 20' L trailers I have looked at seem to be a real tight fit as this car is so wide.
Has anyone hauled their car in an enclosed trailer? If so please give me the trailer details and how you felt your car fitted width wise.
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Well my trailer is 48' long so I doubt you need one that big!! IMO 20 is to tight. It's a bitch to strap it down. Plus there's not much room for storage. 24' would be the min. 28' would be ideal.

Width wise they are all tight. On my 48' I can park on either side of the wheels wells and get out of the door. A smaller trailer will not allow that. It's dukes of hazard style. Unless you get a high end trailer with an escape door. That would be the way to go.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:21 PM   #3
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Well my trailer is 48' long so I doubt you need one that big!! IMO 20 is to tight. It's a bitch to strap it down. Plus there's not much room for storage. 24' would be the min. 28' would be ideal.

Width wise they are all tight. On my 48' I can park on either side of the wheels wells and get out of the door. A smaller trailer will not allow that. It's dukes of hazard style. Unless you get a vhigh end trailer with an escape door. That would be the way to go.[/QUOTE

I'm wondering how will you strap it down since this car sits low. I'm asking because I will be hiring a company with an enclosed trailer to haul my car after break in from Maine to Lingenfelter and want to make sure it gets there without any problems.
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In the back I use 24" axle strap wrapped around the lca then attached to a ratchet strap. Yes, the front is low and its a pain. I had Jannetty fab a hoop in the front center on the chassis that I can reach from the front if the car. I hook 2 staps to the hoop and then to the trailer D rings. You can also use race ramps and drive up onto them in the trailer. That will give you plenty of clearance to finagle the straps around the chassis.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:29 PM   #4
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Great info.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:31 PM   #5
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:40 PM   #6
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:03 PM   #7
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I picked my ZL1 up in February and hauled it in a 20' enclosed trailer. It was made by Royal Trailers. It was super tight width wise, like an inch from the wheel wells. The bottom of the doors unexpectedly cleared the wheel wells , but barely. The rear was easy to tie down because the rear of the trailer was ramped slightly. The front was a super pain in the butt because the D-rings on the trailer were located right under my front splitter. I was able to criss cross the straps still but had to put the straps on the wheels, through the spokes. I wrapped the straps in microfiber and also placed a blanket between the spokes so it wouldn't scratch. 4.5 hours later the car safely got home and didn't move a bit. But moral of the story is i would not use a 20' again lol
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I have towed several of my camaros across the country and back in a 20' enclosed trailer. They are tight width wise but I had no problem length wise. I installed an e-track the entire length of the trailer with the below wheel straps. The great thing about these wheel straps is that they let the car suspension work and by design, the ratchet is far enough away, there are no issues or concerns about hitting the car. By having the e-track the entire length, I have endless possibilities of strapping cycles, 4 wheelers, etc.

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Old 06-13-2013, 01:00 AM   #10
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I am looking at buying a 20' trailer to haul my car and I will also get the e track
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:21 AM   #11
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I ordered a 24x8.5 v-nose and got the escape door on it ($350 option). Be careful first time you open it, mine didn't clear and the door hit the opening right at the bottom. You can put some 2x12's down to clear the opening. I raised the floor since I haul my drag car and its low to the ground.
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I live in Northern Ontario in a the years to come would like to take my car with me to the Southern States for our winter break. I would really prefer to carry the car in an enclosed trailer to eliminate milage and any chance of road salt. All the 8'.5"w x 20' L trailers I have looked at seem to be a real tight fit as this car is so wide.
Has anyone hauled their car in an enclosed trailer? If so please give me the trailer details and how you felt your car fitted width wise.
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I took a enclosed trailer to pickup my ZL1 it will fit in a trailer. You will need to exit the open drivers window. The only problem tying down the ZL1 is the underbelly pan underneath. It covers the eye holes in the front frame. So what I did was wrap nylon straps around the lower A Arms. And chris cross the straps in a x configuration. To the eye hooks on the floor of the trailer. Road fine 450 miles.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #13
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I have a wide body Wells Cargo. . . plenty of room to go in.

Went with a 10,000 lb capacity, since the 7,700 lb, have zero weight safety factor with the ZL1 coming in at 4,200 lbs.

I use the factory tie down points with "T" hooks. On the front had to route out a hole in the belly pan, but looks like it is supposed to be there.

I also have a custom raised deck rails and over sized drivers awning door so that I can get in and out of the car.
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24' long 8.5' wide, 10,000 lb. Here are pics:









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24' long 8.5' wide, 10,000 lb. Here are pics:












No doubt this is the best way to transport the car. Very,very nice and extremely well thought out.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:55 AM   #16
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Great info guys, Supercharged how wide is that trailer and what make is it. I was thinking of a 20' 8x5 with a V nose in the front. The v gives about 4' of extra trailer and I would go with the floor track. I like the rised floor to clear the wheel wells and to leave room to store ramps and stuff. I would also go with 5200 axles as I also feel 3500 pound is just to tight. This trailer would go on long trips from time to time.
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Awwww man, love that escape door!

I'm getting too old to be crawling out windows.
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Awwww man, love that escape door!

I'm getting too old to be crawling out windows.
I have a 18x8.5' enclosed car hauler. with a beavertail rear(slanted) and a v nose. I had my 1992 Z in there at one point but never strapped it down, cant imagine getting under the ZL1 to strap it down

I like the escape door as well, but ive got a vert so I wouldn't need it lol. lucky me
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Definitely go with 5,200 lb axles . . . one thing to remember the "typical" curb weight of a 20' to 24' trailer is 3,500 lb add a ZL1 and you max out at 7,700 lbs . .

A V nose ~20' or a square 24' gives you plenty of room for misc storage. . . although I am not a big fan of having too much stuff in the trailer since it becomes a projectile in an "incident" . . .

The awning escape door is AWESOME . . . plus this old man can't fit through the window of a 5th gen . . LOL
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my 18x8.5' v nose, 5200 # axles is 3850 empty. I also have upgraded beams underneath as well. and my ZL1 is almost 4400 pounds. over 8000 is too much for my trailblazer SS to handle. I plan to use an open trailer for long distances as I get about 9.5-10 mpg pulling it on the highway
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I believe the strap over the wheels tied to the floor via the e track would make securing it a bit easier.
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:36 PM   #22
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I believe the strap over the wheels tied to the floor via the e track would make securing it a bit easier.
On my open trailers its very easy to tie the car down over the tires. PITA in an enclosed trailer.
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Always tie your car down to the frame. At least for race cars. You anchor the tires only and the entire suspension works they whole way, wears it out.
We use chain cinches to suck the car down onto blocks, does not move.
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Here is a pic of the frame tie down locations I use.

The rear locations are easy to find, in front of the tires about in line with the jack pad notches on the side rails.

The front locations on a ZL1 take a bit of work. take out about 4 - 5 of the bolts on either side of the belly pan so that it is loose enough to pull down so that you can find the factory hole in the frame rail. Locate the hole on the belly pan, and use a Dremel with a roto cutting tool and route out the hole using the factory frame rail hole as your guide.
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What brand trailer is that THR??
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