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Old 06-16-2013, 01:39 PM   #26
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This^^^

If they were allowed to tell you to piss off they would have. But they're not. So they were trying to get rid of you as quickly as possible so they could go back to selling cars instead of dealing with someone who was clearly wasting their time.
actually I was interested. But their immediate rudeness and ignorance on the car put me off. If it was in good condition and not thrashed to hell sure why not look at it more seriously?

What ticked me off besides how neglected the SS was, was that they said my car would end up like that and the finance guy got upset I wasn't financing 40k on a used Camaro and begging him to get approved.

I told him straight it was a bad deal and they should feel ashamed for trying to sell a car like that in such a condition.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:49 PM   #27
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19k is a fair price for a base model dude. Trade in is always like that. If you plan on buying a car and trading it in 2 weeks later don't buy brand new. Plan on keeping it a couple years unless you want to loose alot of money.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:52 PM   #28
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It is really sad to read fellow Camaro owners trash members on this forum.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:53 PM   #29
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19k is a fair price for a base model dude. Trade in is always like that. If you plan on buying a car and trading it in 2 weeks later don't buy brand new. Plan on keeping it a couple years unless you want to loose alot of money.
oh I know lol... Like I said I was just going for fun but next time I'm only going to a Chevy dealership
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:55 PM   #30
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:00 PM   #31
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oh I know lol... Like I said I was just going for fun but next time I'm only going to a Chevy dealership
Why would you go for fun?? Just to waste people's time?? You possibly took somebody away from a paying customer just so you could drive a beat up SS and be a smart ass kid and talk trash to them. Good job. Don't go anywhere unless your actually planning on buying or at least there for a real reason. The guys are there to make money. Your stopping them from putting food on the family table. Good job!
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:37 PM   #32
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oh I know lol... Like I said I was just going for fun but next time I'm only going to a Chevy dealership
#1 Sales people work by commision and are not paid entertainers so try and avoid to being a waste of their time and you might get more respect.
#2 Before you mock a VW sales person for not knowing camaros you might want to correct your own profile and correctly display your car as a 2LS not an lS2.


PS: He may have almost put 87 in it but he was paying money out of HIS pocket so YOU could drive the car.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #33
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actually I was interested.
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Like I said I was just going for fun...
At least get your story straight.


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Why would you go for fun?? Just to waste people's time?? You possibly took somebody away from a paying customer just so you could drive a beat up SS and be a smart ass kid and talk trash to them. Good job. Don't go anywhere unless your actually planning on buying or at least there for a real reason. The guys are there to make money. Your stopping them from putting food on the family table. Good job!
This ^^^ times about a billion.
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i only paid $22,000 out the door for mine, so i would think $19,000 on a trade would be a fair price
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actually I was interested. But their immediate rudeness and ignorance on the car put me off. If it was in good condition and not thrashed to hell sure why not look at it more seriously?
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Like I said I was just going for fun
Lol!
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:32 PM   #36
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19k for a starting point on trade was about right. It's used.

Sounds like the SS was a beater so price is way high.

And in the original post you said MSRP of $27k. Not sure how you got that figure...
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Old 06-16-2013, 04:39 PM   #37
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i only paid $22,000 out the door for mine, so i would think $19,000 on a trade would be a fair price
Same paid and feel the same way.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #38
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Why would you go for fun?? Just to waste people's time?? You possibly took somebody away from a paying customer just so you could drive a beat up SS and be a smart ass kid and talk trash to them. Good job. Don't go anywhere unless your actually planning on buying or at least there for a real reason. The guys are there to make money. Your stopping them from putting food on the family table. Good job!
First off calm down. I spoke seriously about trading up IF it was reasonable. I had no clue going in the car was in such bad shape. Isn't the ONE thing people say here to do when upgrading to an SS is to go test drive it?

If anyone's time was wasted it was mine because any chance of them getting a sale was wasted with their terrible attitudes and the product they were selling.

Stop playing the woe is me to the salesman. I certainly went in with an upbeat attitude looking forward to the car. I even in the back of my mind was hoping if I liked it and the car was in good shape to maybe make it a sale.

I had NO idea going in the experience would be bad. I was put off by their attitudes. The only time I obviously displayed dissatisfaction was when they insulted MY car and tried to play off how much in terrible shape their car was...
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:50 PM   #39
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#1 Sales people work by commision and are not paid entertainers so try and avoid to being a waste of their time and you might get more respect.
#2 Before you mock a VW sales person for not knowing camaros you might want to correct your own profile and correctly display your car as a 2LS not an lS2.


PS: He may have almost put 87 in it but he was paying money out of HIS pocket so YOU could drive the car.
I love the bashing by everyone here. How odd that I said I was test driving the car to make a purchase in the future but was put off by the experience. I'll tell you this and you all can take it or leave it.

IF the car was in good condition, and the price was fair I would have maybe looked at trading up IF it was a decent deal and the car itself wasn't thrashed.

And why CAN'T it be both serious AND fun? I was excited test driving an SS since I love my Camaro. Isn't that what it's about? All of you need to stop reading this the wrong way thinking I was dicking some salesman...
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:52 PM   #40
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Lol!
can't be fun and serious can it?
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:27 PM   #41
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I was dicking some salesman...
Well you openly admit you where doing this.... So how where you not dicking the salesman around?? You say you went in there to waste his time. We all know you wouldn't throw all that money out the window 3 weeks after buying a brand new car. If you had the money to get a SS why did you get the base model? Should have gotten at least a 2LT. You just wanted to test drive. It's painfully obvious.
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Well you openly admit you where doing this.... So how where you not dicking the salesman around?? You say you went in there to waste his time. We all know you wouldn't throw all that money out the window 3 weeks after buying a brand new car. If you had the money to get a SS why did you get the base model? Should have gotten at least a 2LT. You just wanted to test drive. It's painfully obvious.
Jazy, based on everything you wrote, we think you may have some issues.....or you're a troll...with issues...
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Jazy, based on everything you wrote, we think you may have some issues.....or you're a troll...with issues...

or a troll......with issues.........with waaaaaaaay too much time on his hands.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:58 PM   #44
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It is really sad to read fellow Camaro owners trash members on this forum.
I've been on a lot of car forums, and I've never seen a forum this bad before...ever.

If anyone says anything bad about a Camaro or something that needs to be improved (heaven forbid), they jump all over the person, thinking they are saving the Camaro's reputation, which their egos are completely co-dependent with. What really happens, is they make Camaro owners just look like complete a-holes, thereby ruining the reputation of Camaros. Sad.

Fortunately, most Camaro buyers never see this forum.

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Old 06-17-2013, 02:55 AM   #45
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Well you openly admit you where doing this.... So how where you not dicking the salesman around?? You say you went in there to waste his time. We all know you wouldn't throw all that money out the window 3 weeks after buying a brand new car. If you had the money to get a SS why did you get the base model? Should have gotten at least a 2LT. You just wanted to test drive. It's painfully obvious.
I actually went in with an attitude of potentially making a future purchase and the price and mileage on the SS seemed decent! What turned me off was the attitude of the people there so if I came off jaded in the initial post it was my end experience sadly.

The first salesman I spoke with on the phone was a great guy. However when I was test driving with this other guy it was just a bunch of I don't knows. It really wasn't even the salesman it was their finance manager who seemed offended by me telling him the car had issues.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:56 AM   #46
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Jazy, based on everything you wrote, we think you may have some issues.....or you're a troll...with issues...
No but I had issues with the experience. My apologies if I came off like an ass it wasn't intentional.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:58 AM   #47
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I've been on a lot of car forums, and I've never seen a forum this bad before...ever.

If anyone says anything bad about a Camaro or something that needs to be improved (heaven forbid), they jump all over the person, thinking they are saving the Camaro's reputation, which their egos are completely co-dependent with. What really happens, is they make Camaro owners just look like complete a-holes, thereby ruining the reputation of Camaros. Sad.

Fortunately, most Camaro buyers never see this forum.

Michael

Well I wasn't even saying the SS was bad at all which is perplexing if that is what people thought. I was saying that the previous owner treated the car poorly which made me well sad.

It's a wonderful machine! It felt good, had that growl I love but Lord if it wasn't thrashed... I'm certain I'd be praising the car up and down if it was treated better and maintained like I'm almost certain we all do here to our cars cause we love them.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:52 AM   #48
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I've been on a lot of car forums, and I've never seen a forum this bad before...ever.

If anyone says anything bad about a Camaro or something that needs to be improved (heaven forbid), they jump all over the person, thinking they are saving the Camaro's reputation, which their egos are completely co-dependent with. What really happens, is they make Camaro owners just look like complete a-holes, thereby ruining the reputation of Camaros. Sad.

Fortunately, most Camaro buyers never see this forum.

Michael
This. I belong to many automotive sites. None seem to be as touchy and sensitive as this one. I'm not suggesting that it should be the wild wild west in here, but as they say in the NFL playoffs..."let them play".
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I personally don't think that this forum is too bad. The mods do a really good job calling out those who start personal attacks.

Intentional or unintentional the first post had a lot of troll qualities. Take this post, change Camaro for Mustang, Challenger, Civic, whatever, and post in one of those other forums and see what happens. He's trying to buy a used car from a non-GM dealer and complains that the dealer doesn't know much about the SS. Overstates his MSRP by quite a bit and complains about a realistic trade-in value. Test driving a car after only having his for a very short period of time. OP is just having fun but is serious. Not sure how we are all supposed to jump on the sympathy bandwagon...

I don't see much that warrants any "shame on you for replying that way" - spank spank.

And this thread will long be forgotten in a short period of time and the OP will be treated nicely as everyone is around here...
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