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Old 06-17-2013, 07:20 AM   #35
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I never have understood rotating tires.
Bunch of BS. Like 3,000 mile oil changes.
I rotate my truck tires every 5K miles, when I get the oil changed. Last set of tires on my Ram1500 went over 70,000 miles and still had decent tread.

Did the same with Honda Civic. Got 80,000+ miles out of last tires. I intend to rotate my SS tires at every oil change - maximize tread-life. These tires ain't cheap!
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:19 AM   #36
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Yep, one person makes one mistake and you should NEVER use that dealer again.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:30 AM   #37
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Not so. See your manual. They just have to be rotated properly: side-to-side, rather than the traditional way. If our factory RS tires were "directional" tires (which would have an arrow on the sidewall) you would be correct. However, we do not have "directional" tires.

I'm pretty sure your dealer did this during service. I never let dealers to tire service of any kind.
Rotating side to side is a waste. That's why I said what I did. Side to side wear should be consistent with each other unless your car is out of whack. No need to rotate side to side.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:32 AM   #38
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Also, I agree... dealer is an idiot. Yes, mistakes may happen but if you can't get this right, you have no business servicing cars. Pay attention to what you're doing. Also, the service advisor who suggested this should be questioned.

I'm sure the OP was charged for this service. Hope he gets history back.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:16 AM   #39
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Again... not so. Read your manual.
From the factory, you are correct.

However, many people put directional tires on after the factory ones are through.

And at that point, reading the first line in the manual would indicate not to rotate the tires.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:39 AM   #40
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Last month I saw a black RS Camaro with inferno orange stripes driving along. Given that I also own a RS Camaro (although was not driving it at the time) I decided to check the vehicle out from the rear. Something looked slightly out of balance or not symmetrical. I realized at that moment that the 275's were both on the passenger side and the 245's were on the drivers. Obviously, snow tires had been replaced with the summer rims. I tried to bring this to the drivers attention, but they were not talking.
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:22 PM   #41
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It just amazes me how f*cking stupid, carelesss and incompetant many dealership are. The sad thing is that most people trust dealerships and believe that they are experts at servicing the vehicles they sell (which they should be!). The truth is that you have to watch them like a hawk and make sure they're doing what they're supposed to do. The idiot that rotated those tires needs to be fired. Who could do that without noticing the wheels are staggered?
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #42
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Interesting....Never heard of this actually happening....I would have thought that Stabilitrak warning light or whatever would have come on right away...
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:09 PM   #43
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Also, I agree... dealer is an idiot. Yes, mistakes may happen but if you can't get this right, you have no business servicing cars. Pay attention to what you're doing. Also, the service advisor who suggested this should be questioned.

I'm sure the OP was charged for this service. Hope he gets history back.

Oh well. I brought it in - the new service advisor looked perplexed, then showed me to her boss, who looked at my car - apologized, and told me he'll take care of it.
Its all fixed now, only took a few hours of my life, all good, lots of apologies thrown my way.
They were always nice anyway - and once in a while throws in a car wash for me.

Though I came back to the board now and realized you were right - I was charged for it back then. Oh well! how much would it have costs, buried with the rest of cost for the half year maintenance? Hope it wasnt a big chunk of it, lol. I guess I need to start learning more about my own car besides how to drive it.

Though this whole fiasco got me to create an account on this forum - good to see so many helpful people around!
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:10 PM   #44
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Do what other people seem to always do.

DEMAND! a brand new car as a replacement with a 1000k 100year full warranty included AND a brand new set of wheels/tires of YOUR choosing.

PLUS!
DEMAND that the offending dealer be put out of business for all eterninty including any past, present, or future relatives of anyone working at the dealership.

OR

Simply have them put the wheels/tires on the proper locations and move on.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:51 PM   #45
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Who imagines the left wears out quicker or slower than the right?
Unless you are driving on an oval and seconds in a pit stop mean something.

Do you ever see a race crew rotating tires?

We all make rights and lefts.
Actually any car that is tracked should do side to side swaps to prolong tire life if the tires are not directional. You don’t see the pros doing it because they have big budgets and new tires are almost always faster. It’s not just ovals either. Most road courses are clockwise and therefore will have more right hand turns than left. One track that I go to frequently has 8 right hand turns and only two left hand turns. If you don’t swap side to side on a regular schedule you’ll cord the left side tires while right side tires still look pristine.

For cars that only see street duty side to side rotation is probably not necessary. Maybe if you regularly push it hard on exit/entrance ramps that are all in the same direction. Other than that I don’t see it. If in doubt a simple visual inspection will tell you if one side is wearing more heavily than the other. If so go ahead and swap ‘em.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:30 PM   #46
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Rotating side to side is a waste. That's why I said what I did. Side to side wear should be consistent with each other unless your car is out of whack. No need to rotate side to side.
Even wearing of the tires, through proper rotation, helps keep your car from going out of whack. Properly balanced wheels/tires also contributes.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:34 PM   #47
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From the factory, you are correct.

However, many people put directional tires on after the factory ones are through.

And at that point, reading the first line in the manual would indicate not to rotate the tires.
That's why I said "factory RS tires". What someone puts on after the fact is on them to know how to properly care for them.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:36 PM   #48
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I wonder if it helped true your tires....I'm gonna run out and have mine rotated too
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:27 PM   #49
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i think we're being trolled...
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:50 PM   #50
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Left to right is what the manual calls for. However...I would not do that. Most rotations involving same-size tires are front to rear.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:21 PM   #51
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i think we're being trolled...
Well, I did take a picture before I left this morning. You can see the front is larger...and if you turn your head around, you'll make out the faint 245 on the rear.


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