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Old 06-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #18
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Okay - so you're comparing the peak dyno numbers too. Seems to be a ton of debate swirling around how to compare dyno numbers.
Just out of curiosity, how many passes did it take you to crack into the 12s in stock form?
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:39 PM   #19
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I never did run 12's in stock form.My best was a 13.3 but that was in 90 degree
heat.I never ran my car stock in cold air. Could it have picked up three tenths? maybe.
I also ran my car then with 36 psi in the tires and was cutting 2.xx 60' times.

But this isn't about "my car is faster than your car" I just thought the 1le with all the goodies would be faster than 12.9's and maybe it will be.Thats why I said I would wait and see what others post up.

Drop...please post your dyno #'s when you get them.
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:08 AM   #20
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I never did run 12's in stock form.My best was a 13.3 but that was in 90 degree
heat.I never ran my car stock in cold air. Could it have picked up three tenths? maybe.
I also ran my car then with 36 psi in the tires and was cutting 2.xx 60' times.

But this isn't about "my car is faster than your car" I just thought the 1le with all the goodies would be faster than 12.9's and maybe it will be.Thats why I said I would wait and see what others post up.

Drop...please post your dyno #'s when you get them.
Yep we need more passes. One car, 8 passes at one track is hardly definitive.
I suspect times will improve as he gets more seat time.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:25 AM   #21
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Come on Guy's the 1LE has to be as fast as the SS M6.

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Just ran mine last night. Best time was a 13.545 with a DA of 1900. First time at the track in years. Bone Stock.
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Just ran mine last night. Best time was a 13.545 with a DA of 1900. First time at the track in years. Bone Stock.
Not bad! Keep trying and let us know how it goes. Lots of advice around here, but the best advice I got was more seat time.
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Mines been consistently faster then my 2011 SS, by about .3 that being said I need to take a trip to somewhere closer to sea level my 4000+ DA most runs makes me look slow :(

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psst! any of you guys want to post in the unofficial list that corrects for DA.....kinda lonely all by myself.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52264
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Not bad! Keep trying and let us know how it goes. Lots of advice around here, but the best advice I got was more seat time.
That was awful that night. Traction was a major problem. Plus if you look at the MPH on that pass is low. It was my first run and I didn't shift to 4th and hit fuel cutoff right before the traps. The rest of the night didn't get any better as far as ET goes. I am going back on the 23rd for a redo.
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psst! any of you guys want to post in the unofficial list that corrects for DA.....kinda lonely all by myself.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52264
This is the first forum I have been to out of a dozen plus automotive and motorcycle forums that uses DA. I completely understand it, but magazines, manufacturers nor any drag association that I know of use DA.

With that being said. Here is mine when it was 100% stock

DA Corrected time for Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
12.656 @ 112.982 MPH
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This is the first forum I have been to out of a dozen plus automotive and motorcycle forums that uses DA. I completely understand it, but magazines, manufacturers nor any drag association that I know of use DA.

With that being said. Here is mine when it was 100% stock

Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
12.656 @ 112.982 MPH
12.656 out of a stock 1LE You sir can drive the shit out of that car! I was watching ZL1s run 12.6s at our track last month.
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This is the first forum I have been to out of a dozen plus automotive and motorcycle forums that uses DA. I completely understand it, but magazines, manufacturers nor any drag association that I know of use DA.

With that being said. Here is mine when it was 100% stock

Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
12.656 @ 112.982 MPH
No most don't use DA but as someone who lives nowhere near sea level and constantly races in plus 4000DA I couldn't understand why I was getting nowhere near the times I see posted here all the time when my 60 was the same or better. So until I take a 12.5 hour drive to the closest racetrack that's near sea level I guess I will just have to be happy with the 12.515 at 115.28 MPH that drag times corrects my run to.
Oh and that's on street tires
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No most don't use DA but as someone who lives nowhere near sea level and constantly races in plus 4000DA I couldn't understand why I was getting nowhere near the times I see posted here all the time when my 60 was the same or better.
DA correction is just for fun, but it does help you figure out if you are doing better or worse at the track each time you go. But there are other factors too when comparing like modded or not modded cars such as weight of the driver, what's in the car at the time of the run, how much gas, and the cars weight difference to start with. From the weights I have seen posted a base 1SS no option 1LE is about 100 pounds lighter than a loaded 2SS with a sunroof. Maybe someone else has more exact figures.

The 60' is the most important aspect of the run but then there is the shift points and speed of the shift. I ran about 75+ runs trying to get my stock 1LE into the 12s with lots of low 2.1 60's. The closest I could get was 13.2. I gave up and finally just went full bolt on minus a tune with DRs. But the chase was fun.

Oh, and every Challenger owner at the track says the Goodyears are awful tires for a good 60'. The regular SS Pirellis are much better. In my '11 SS I was able to get a few 1.9s with them.
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12.656 out of a stock 1LE You sir can drive the shit out of that car! I was watching ZL1s run 12.6s at our track last month.

That was the DA Corrected Time I was showing.....

Real time was a 12.991 @ 880 ft above sea level...

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No most don't use DA but as someone who lives nowhere near sea level and constantly races in plus 4000DA I couldn't understand why I was getting nowhere near the times I see posted here all the time when my 60 was the same or better. So until I take a 12.5 hour drive to the closest racetrack that's near sea level I guess I will just have to be happy with the 12.515 at 115.28 MPH that drag times corrects my run to.
Oh and that's on street tires
Simple, you have bad air and at a higher elevation than most. Like a dyno, you should be more concerned with your improvements over the last run

Experienced drag racers know when to run the cars and when not to. If someone in Michigan wants hero run numbers we have to run in the spring or fall when the air is better. We can can also wait for evening test and tune.....But too cool and the track gets slicks. It is a balance. as it is cool and October here I am going back to the track one more time for some "hero" runs as the 12.991 was in the middle of the summer with a brand new car that wasn't broken in yet.
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That was the DA Corrected Time I was showing.....

Real time was a 12.991 @ 880 ft above sea level...

I clarified my post above.

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Simple, you have bad air and at a higher elevation than most. Like a dyno, you should be more concerned with your improvements over the last run

Experienced drag racers know when to run the cars and when not to. If someone in Michigan wants hero run numbers we have to run in the spring or fall when the air is better. We can can also wait for evening test and tune.....But too cool and the track gets slicks. It is a balance. as it is cool and October here I am going back to the track one more time for some "hero" runs as the 12.991 was in the middle of the summer with a brand new car that wasn't broken in yet.


Unfortunately even experienced drivers have no choice but to run in 4000+ DA here as that is simply all there is. When track elevation is above 4000 ft there is only so much you can do. Either get used to running at high elevation or simply not race. Its easy to say wait for cooler air. That run was taken on a night with good DA here 4679ft I have spent many entire weekends where we never get below 6000DA
I am quite happy with my consistent improvements over the last 3 years but I suppose a 12.5 hour trip is in order to make some "HERO" runs and see how I truly stack up against other 1LE's
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Unfortunately even experienced drivers have no choice but to run in 4000+ DA here as that is simply all there is. When track elevation is above 4000 ft there is only so much you can do. Either get used to running at high elevation or simply not race. Its easy to say wait for cooler air. That run was taken on a night with good DA here 4679ft I have spent many entire weekends where we never get below 6000DA
I am quite happy with my consistent improvements over the last 3 years but I suppose a 12.5 hour trip is in order to make some "HERO" runs and see how I truly stack up against other 1LE's
I think that came off wrong. I was just saying I wont run my car in the summer at the strip as I know it will post slower times and I don't want to bother with abusing the car just for some passes.

Yes, your altitude and DA are awful, If you are constantly improving I would be impressed/happy with that and not worry about comparing it to others on here.

Yes! a trip to Mission or Firebird (assuming both are about 12 hours from you) and you would see numbers you want to from the car.......I think Montana has a couple of drag strip that would be closer in the 6ish hour range from you...

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Old 10-21-2013, 07:50 AM   #34
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Finally ran a 12 with my 1LE

I picked up my 1LE in May, and have been loving every minute of it! It's been to two road courses, several autocrosses, and 22 1/4 mile passes.
I've been steadily improving my 1/4 mile times with practice, figuring out tire pressures, and getting better air. A week ago I got down to a 13.07 at MCIR in LaRue, OH, and yesterday I gave it one last shot to break into the 12's while it's still stock.
I went to National Trail Raceway near Columbus, OH and the conditions were great... 60deg, sunny, tailwind, sticky track. Ran a 12.858 @ 112!
I'm not sure what others are finding, but I've been down, up, and in-between with rear tire pressures (20-35psi), and got my best 60' and ET's with 34-35psi. Dropping pressures just seemed to make it wheel hop more and run slower on the big end. Also, I'm walking it out of the hole from about 2500rpm, shifting a little easy into 2nd to avoid wheel spin and bog (which I've been told is the torque management) and then powershifting 3rd and 4th.
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