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Old 06-21-2013, 04:21 PM   #1
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Subframe bushing inserts help!

I'm installing the Pedders subframe bushing inserts and can't even get started. What is the torque value of the sub-frame bushing bolts? I can't even get those suckers off!
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #2
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According to the Pfadt instructions, they are torqued to 100 ft-lbs. Get a big 1/2" breaker bar and the right size socket, and they'll come loose!
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:32 PM   #3
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Use a breaker bar or a good impact. I had no issues with the actual bolt. Biggest issue was getting the hat off the sub-frame.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #4
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I have a cheap impact and they came off no problem. A breaker should work also.

I dropped the entire cradle which was easy and made access much better. However, I read somewhere where somebody lowered the carrier and then placed 4 sockets between the bushes and car and then jacked the carrier up letting the weight of the car do the work and press them out.

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:37 PM   #5
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Ah yes, works much better with a longer torque wrench capable of 250 ft/lb. Hopefully this was the only hurdle I'll run into. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:48 PM   #6
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I have a cheap impact and they came off no problem. A breaker should work also.

I dropped the entire cradle which was easy and made access much better. However, I read somewhere where somebody lowered the carrier and then placed 4 sockets between the bushes and car and then jacked the carrier up letting the weight of the car do the work and press them out.

good luck fun stuff
Haddad Motorsports did drop the cradle on my ZL1 when I watched them install mine last month. Made a huge difference.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:30 PM   #7
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:46 PM   #8
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
Torque the bolts after you time the bushings.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:10 PM   #9
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use a pipe stick it over the ratchet or breaker bar to break the torque or a big combo wrench to gain extra leverage on your wrench !!!! Easy pipe to use is your pipe jack from your car jack is what I use all the time for breaking torque on hard to break bolts.
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Does it matter if I re-torque the bolts before or after dropping the car back down?
Are you talking about the subframe bolts? I did mine before I put the car on the ground.

Tip: put a little blue locktite on the bolts and get try to torque them to around 80# and you should be good.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:51 PM   #11
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Timed, locktited, and torqued! Thanks for the help everyone! That was definitely the most challenging mod I've done so far. Getting those metal plates off the bottom of the front bushings SUCKED!

Now to do the radius rod inserts on Sunday, get an alignment during the week, then hit the track next Saturday.
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Did you do it on jack stands? Got any advice? What are your impressions?

I'm planning on doing this mod soon
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Timed, locktited, and torqued! Thanks for the help everyone! That was definitely the most challenging mod I've done so far. Getting those metal plates off the bottom of the front bushings SUCKED!
Now to do the radius rod inserts on Sunday, get an alignment during the week, then hit the track next Saturday.
What method did you use to get the metal plates off?


The radius rod inserts are super easy.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #14
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I'll throw this thread out there just in case someone hasn't seen it yet. It might help someone with the install.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=pedders
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:35 PM   #15
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Did you do it on jack stands? Got any advice? What are your impressions?

I'm planning on doing this mod soon
Yes I use jack stands. Make sure you have the right tools and I strongly suggest another pair of hands. So far it feels great, we'll see how it performs at the track this weekend.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:39 PM   #16
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What method did you use to get the metal plates off?
Took the wheels off, then I use a large screw driver from under the car to pry at the plate, then a friend used a crowbar to pry from the wheel well and used a hammer for the extra force/vibrations on the crowbar.

Screw driver slipped and I ended up punching the car at almost full power a couple times.

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The radius rod inserts are super easy.
Took some effort to get the bolts started, then took a lot of effort to get the driver side bolt in and out because of the washer fluid bottle.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:55 AM   #17
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I'll throw this thread out there just in case someone hasn't seen it yet. It might help someone with the install.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=pedders
Good info Caverman!

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Yes I use jack stands. Make sure you have the right tools and I strongly suggest another pair of hands. So far it feels great, we'll see how it performs at the track this weekend.
Getting ready to do this mod soon also!
Did you take out the axle back exhaust too? Seems like it would have to come out! What all did you take loose to lower the cradle? Thanks for the info!
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