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Old 01-09-2013, 11:59 PM   #1
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Cool DIY Install LED SWITCHBACK TURN SIGNALS White DRL and Amber Blinker in one! For RS

This is a DIY for RS camaro switchback turn signal LED lights. Switchback turn signals are white as DRLS but go back to blinking amber when the blinker is applied.

I bought these (discontinued now): http://www.v-leds.com/Shop/Control/P...481/menu_num/2
Along with 2 50w 6ohm resistors and mounting plates.

EDIT: That link doesnt seem to work, so I think these are the only ones that V-LEDS sell, CLICK HERE . Unfortunately, these seem to have 42 leds instead of the 92 led ones I bought. Id call V-Leds or email them to see if they have the other ones, or to check fitment on these, etc.

It does look like the new ones are an improved designed and are probably just as bright or brighter than mine, with an aluminum housing, so I wouldnt worry about the 92 vs 42 led thing.


They are 5000k, 92 LED 3157 size bulbs. V-LED is great quality so far. and 5,000k is nearly a match for the halos.


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1. Strip back a section (or use a t-tap) of both factory wires on each blinker wire harness.

2. Splice in the resistor across these two factory wires.
- You are splicing the resistor across the amber blinker wire and the negative to simulate a stock bulb, which will make the blinker blink at the correct rate, and keep you from getting a CEL.

3. Find the halo power wire. Purple on the driver's side. Brown/White on the passenger. The wire is on the outside of both sides, with the ground being the opposite side.

4. Strip back a section, and run a new length of wire from the Halo power, to the middle unused part of the blinker harness.

5. You will have to drill a hole through the middle channel of the blinker harness, and run the halo power through it, to power the white LEDs, and keep them on with the halos. If you match your drill bit to the thickness of your wire, then all you should need to do is shove the wire in the new hole, and make sure it is snug, and it will stay in place and make a good contact.

- You should notice that the blinker light harness assembly is two parts that can be separated, do this when drilling.

6. Now you should mount your resistor to the frame or hide it wherever you want, resistors can get hot, but since the blinkers are not on often, these resistors will stay cool most of the time.

7. Now be sure to electrical tape all connections and put any wires back in the wire loom as applicable.

You lights should now be white with the halos and headlights. They should be off when just the fogs/drls are on. And they should turn to just amber for the blinker.

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Good job on the write up!

One note on the power resistors...

These are required so that the BCM does not sense that the bulb is burned out. Without them, the car will display an error as well as blink quickly.

The heat sink for these resistors are not needed. That is because almost no current is going through these when the blinker is off. When the blinker is illuminated, current does flow through. Since the blinkers are on and off, and usually only for a short duration, these resistors will rarely even become warm. My suggestion is to hide them however you can.

Any additional details on how you got the middle wire to stay contacted with the bulb wire inside the connector?
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Good job on the write up!

One note on the power resistors...

These are required so that the BCM does not sense that the bulb is burned out. Without them, the car will display an error as well as blink quickly.

The heat sink for these resistors are not needed. That is because almost no current is going through these when the blinker is off. When the blinker is illuminated, current does flow through. Since the blinkers are on and off, and usually only for a short duration, these resistors will rarely even become warm. My suggestion is to hide them however you can.

Any additional details on how you got the middle wire to stay contacted with the bulb wire inside the connector?
You know what, I thought about that after. I was like, they arent going to get hot because no one drives around with their blinker on all the time. Either way, the aluminum plates made for an easier installation. But maybe I will hide them better the next time im messing around in the engine bay.

Actually I just matched the drill bit up a tad smaller to the wire I was using and shoved it in there, It was a really snug fit, I was planning on adding silicone but I couldnt even pull the wire back out when tugging on it. I taped everything back up with electrical tape. And I used a big enough wire, and left enough extra in the channel that it made a good connection.

I wiggled everything around and all of my connections were tight. On my old car I usually put a bit of solder when I spliced connections, or used real connectors, but I didnt have time last night.

One thing thats weird, is that if you look at the blinker light harness, its actually two pieces. ALmost a mounting piece for the bulb (which has three working poles/contacts) and then the wiring harness that plugs on to that.

So it isnt like I thought before, you arent just trying to get a piece of wire to touch the little lead on the bulb, it is in a female slot, and the bulb mounting piece has the male end, so when they get shoved and locked together theres nowhere for the wire to go.

Just use a decent sized wire. Also thanks man, couldnt have done it without you
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:36 AM   #4
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Heres a video of them working also
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:44 PM   #5
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Ive never heard of anyone having issues with it, and ive specifically asked a few ppl who have them.

A lot of cars have white or blue drls on the front of the car, and also have yellow running lights, that also blink, so I dont see why this would be different.

Cant see any reason for them to be illegal
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very kewl idea
Thanks bro, got it from pyr0boy a while back, then he made his the car the tron Camaro and it looked even better
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Thanks bro, got it from pyr0boy a while back, then he made his the car the tron Camaro and it looked even better
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I have everything already wired for the switchbacks. I bought what I thought were switch backs awhile ago but turned out just to be white while running and blinking... I'm in the military and I got a load of bs every time I would go to base. I'm thinking that as long as they signal amber and run white I will be fine? If anyone knows the law for WA I would be grateful as the MA's on base have nothing better to do and would love paper proof so they stop trying to assert there "base" authority lol
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I have everything already wired for the switchbacks. I bought what I thought were switch backs awhile ago but turned out just to be white while running and blinking... I'm in the military and I got a load of bs every time I would go to base. I'm thinking that as long as they signal amber and run white I will be fine? If anyone knows the law for WA I would be grateful as the MA's on base have nothing better to do and would love paper proof so they stop trying to assert there "base" authority lol
Im not sure of particular laws. But I cant see a reason the way I have mine configured would be illegal.

They are white (not an illegal color for the front of the car) running all the time. And they blink JUST amber when blinking (they dont alternate amber/white like some out there).

So I dont see an issue. Lots of cars have white, blue, or even amber running lights on the front of the car.
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I can't imagine that they could have a problem with the colors. Many stock automobiles have amber and white on the front. This can't be illegal in any state. The only problem that I can foresee would be that they could claim that they couldn't see your turn signals since the alternating white and white+amber isn't very much contrast. Why not swap them out with the kind that alternate bewteen white and amber?
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I can't imagine that they could have a problem with the colors. Many stock automobiles have amber and white on the front. This can't be illegal in any state. The only problem that I can foresee would be that they could claim that they couldn't see your turn signals since the alternating white and white+amber isn't very much contrast. Why not swap them out with the kind that alternate bewteen white and amber?
That's what I was thinking. I still think he would be fine if they alternated amber/white. But just to be safe, go with alternating amber/off
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:19 PM   #14
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Anyone done this mod on a 2013 yet and verify all of the plugs and wiring are the same?
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Necro! Valid question, though.

Note that some states have a limit on how many white lights can be on the front of the car.
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All good on my 2013. Gen5diy and NightOwl helped me sort it out!!!
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Necro! Valid question, though.

Note that some states have a limit on how many white lights can be on the front of the car.
In Georgia, the law states that you cannot have more than two sets of "beams" on at a time. I have to imagine this would be the case in other states as well. It would get down to a real fine line if it were to just say "lights". The audis and other cars that have individual LEDs as eyebrows could be considered individual lights. But still, your point of checking your local laws is very good Tony!
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I must admit I never spent much time looking at the front of my car during day, night, lows, highs. I assume in stock configuration our DRLs shut off when we turn our headlights on? So are all of the people adding DRL harnesses manually turning them off somehow at night or are they just crossing their fingers?
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My resistors from gen5diy got fairly hot so I did decide to hard mount them in case the hazards were ever left on for any amount of time. The mounts extruded on the resistors had the holes so close you cannot fit a fastener. This is how I mounted them. I only took pica of the passenger side but the drivers is a mirror image.
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From WI DOT website:

Trans 305.075  Auxiliary lamps. Trans 305.075(1)(1) Auxiliary lamps that are fog lamps or adverse weather lamps may not be used in lieu of headlamps during those times when headlamps are required except as expressly allowed by s. 347.26 (3), Stats. Other auxiliary lamps may not be used in lieu of headlamps.
Trans 305.075(2) (2) Unless specifically permitted by this chapter or by ch. 347, Stats., no motor vehicle may be operated upon a highway with a lighted auxiliary lamp unless the auxiliary lamp:
Trans 305.075(2)(a) (a) Is mounted below the level of the center of the headlamps, except that when added equipment, such as a snow plow, blocks the transmission of light from factory installed headlights, alternate headlights may be mounted above the factory installed headlights and may temporarily be used during the time the light obstructing equipment is in place.
Trans 305.075(2)(b) (b) Directs light forward of the vehicle.
Trans 305.075(2)(c) (c) Every auxiliary lamp shall be properly aimed so as to conform with manufacturers recommendations, and so that glaring light rays from the auxiliary lamp are not directed into the eyes of an approaching driver.
Trans 305.075(2)(d) (d) Meets the photometric specifications in SAE technical reports J581, J582 and J583 for auxiliary driving lamps, auxiliary low beam lamps or front fog lamps.
Trans 305.075 Note Note: SAE Standard J581 was approved in March 1979 and completely revised by the Lighting Coordinating Committee in June 1989. SAE Recommended Practice J582 was approved in January 1981 and completely revised by the Lighting Committee in September 1984. SAE Standard J583 was approved in May 1937 and completely revised by the Lighting Committee in July 1977 with an editorial change in May 1981. The SAE standards, published in the 1994 SAE Handbook, are available in the offices of the Department of Transportation, the Secretary of State, and the Legislative Reference Bureau. These standards may also be purchased from the Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc., 400 Commonwealth Drive, Warrendale, PA 15096-0001. Trans 305.075(3) (3) Whenever the operator of a vehicle equipped with auxiliary lamps projecting a beam beyond that of the vehicle's low beam headlamps approaches an oncoming vehicle within 500 feet, or approaches or follows another vehicle within 500 feet, the operator shall extinguish the auxiliary lamps in order to prevent glaring rays being directed into the eyes of the operator of another vehicle.
Trans 305.075(4) (4) Adverse weather lamps shall be mounted below a horizontal line between the centers of the headlamps. If equipped with 2 adverse weather lamps, they shall be mounted on the same horizontal plane and on opposite sides of the center of the vehicle.
Trans 305.075(5) (5) Motor vehicles may be equipped with auxiliary off-road lamps that may face to the front or rear of the vehicle. The lamps shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits and may not be lighted when the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway.
Trans 305.075 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff. 3-1-96; am. (1) and (5), renum. (2) (c) to be (2) (d), cr. (2) (c), Register, October, 1997, No. 502, eff. 11-1-97.
Trans 305.08 Trans 305.08  Back-up lamp.
Trans 305.08(1)(1) Every motor vehicle originally manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be equipped with back-up lamps in proper working condition and in conformity with this section and s. 347.26 (4), Stats.
Trans 305.08(2) (2) The back-up lamp wiring and connections shall be maintained in good condition.
Trans 305.08(3) (3) Back-up lamps may be activated by a switch on the transmission system so the lamps can be lighted only when the transmission is in reverse gear or may be manually turned on by a switch in the driver's compartment providing there is an indicator light plainly visible to the vehicle driver indicating when the back-up lamps are on.
Trans 305.08 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff. 3-1-96; am. (1), Register, October, 1997, No. 502, eff. 11-1-97.
Trans 305.09 Trans 305.09  Direction signal lamps.
Trans 305.09(1) (1) The front and rear direction signal lamp system of every motor vehicle manufactured after January 1, 1955, shall be maintained in proper working condition and in conformity with this section and s. 347.15, Stats.
Trans 305.09(2) (2) All self-canceling direction signal switches shall be in proper working condition.
Trans 305.09(3) (3) All direction signal indicator lamps shall be installed and maintained in proper working condition and may not be covered or obscured by any object or material.
Trans 305.09(4) (4) All directional signal lenses shall be installed and maintained in proper condition and may not be covered or obscured by any object or material.
Trans 305.09(5) (5) All wiring and connections shall be maintained in good condition.
Trans 305.09(6) (6) There shall be no cracked, broken or missing lenses or reflectors.
Trans 305.09 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff. 3-1-96; renum. (4) and (5) to be (5) and (6), cr. (4), Register, October, 1997, No. 502, eff. 11-1-97.
Trans 305.10 Trans 305.10  Hazard warning lamps.
Trans 305.10(1) (1) Every motor vehicle originally manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be equipped with hazard warning lamps in proper working condition and in conformity with this section and s. 347.26 (11), Stats.
Trans 305.10(2) (2) Hazard warning lamps shall be securely mounted.
Trans 305.10(3) (3) Hazard warning lamp wiring and connections shall be maintained in good condition.
Trans 305.10 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff. 3-1-96; am. (1), Register, October, 1997, No. 502, eff. 11-1-97.
Trans 305.11 Trans 305.11  Headlamps.
Trans 305.11(1)(1) 
Trans 305.11(1)(a) (a) Every motor vehicle shall be equipped with a headlamp system meeting the specifications of the headlamp system with which the vehicle was originally manufactured. Every homemade or reconstructed vehicle shall be equipped with a headlamp system meeting the specifications of headlamp systems on vehicles manufactured in the year in which the homemade or reconstructed vehicle is first registered.
Trans 305.11(1)(b) (b) Every headlamp shall be properly aimed so as to conform with manufacturer's recommendations and so that glaring light rays from the headlamp are not directed into the eyes of the driver of any oncoming vehicle.
Trans 305.11(2) (2) 
Trans 305.11(2)(a)(a) The headlamp system on every motor vehicle shall be maintained in proper working condition and in conformity with this section and ss. 347.09 and 347.10, Stats.
Trans 305.11(2)(b) (b) The headlamp switch, dimmer switch and beam indicator shall be in proper working condition. All wiring and connections shall be in good condition.
Trans 305.11(3) (3) 
Trans 305.11(3)(a)(a) Every motor vehicle shall have an equal number of headlamps on each side of the vehicle installed at least 12 inches from the center of the vehicle and at the height specified in s. 347.09 (2), Stats.
Trans 305.11(3)(b) (b) Every headlamp shall be properly installed, adjustable and securely fastened. The headlamp mounting shall be in good condition.
Trans 305.11(3)(c) (c) No headlamp may have any type of cover that in any way tints the emitted light or reduces the amount of light emitted to below that required by s. 347.10, Stats. This paragraph applies only at times when the use of headlights is required.
Trans 305.11 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff.3-1-96.
Trans 305.12 Trans 305.12  Parking lamps.
Trans 305.12(1)(1) Every motor vehicle manufactured commencing with the 1950 models, and every homemade or reconstructed motor vehicle registered on or after January 1, 1975, shall be equipped with parking lamps to the front meeting the visibility requirements of s. 347.27 (1) (b), Stats.
Trans 305.12(2) (2) The parking lamps and lens of every motor vehicle shall be maintained in proper working condition and in conformity with this section and s. 347.27, Stats.
Trans 305.12(3) (3) All wiring and connections shall be maintained in good condition.
Trans 305.12 History History: Cr. Register, February, 1996, No. 482, eff. 3-1-96.
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I must admit I never spent much time looking at the front of my car during day, night, lows, highs. I assume in stock configuration our DRLs shut off when we turn our headlights on? So are all of the people adding DRL harnesses manually turning them off somehow at night or are they just crossing their fingers?
In stock form the lower fog lights are on during the day, turn the knob once, and just the halos are on, turn it again, and just the halos and headlights are on.

The blinkers and fogs never are running with everything else.
The harness everyone gets is to make the fogs stay on all day, with the halos, and with the halos and headlights.
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i clicked this link and it said it was not found so is there an easier way to find the bulb?
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i clicked this link and it said it was not found so is there an easier way to find the bulb?
Sorry about that.

http://www.vleds.com/bulb/3157-3156-...57-1-pair.html

These are the same, only with less LEDS. I dont see the 92 led ones I bought anymore, you can try another site. But they might be bigger leds or something and shine just as much.

What you need is 3157 Switchbacks(dual color). You can try other websites. I dont think you need the CK kind of bulb base (get the regular), I think its only for toyotas.

There are two "types" sometimes, one blinks amber and white, the other blinks amber and off, both run white during the day.
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Sorry about that.

http://www.vleds.com/bulb/3157-3156-...57-1-pair.html

These are the same, only with less LEDS. I dont see the 92 led ones I bought anymore, you can try another site. But they might be bigger leds or something and shine just as much.

What you need is 3157 Switchbacks(dual color). You can try other websites. I dont think you need the CK kind of bulb base (get the regular), I think its only for toyotas.

There are two "types" sometimes, one blinks amber and white, the other blinks amber and off, both run white during the day.
thank you, that helped alot lol. and does the resistor come with it or is that a separate purchase? and also im guessing i can just buy wire at a hardware store?
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thank you, that helped alot lol. and does the resistor come with it or is that a separate purchase? and also im guessing i can just buy wire at a hardware store?
They dont come with the resistors on that site, you can get them from ebay, or any other site that sells them if V-leds are out if them.

Remember you need two resistors.

You can get the wire anywhere as well, its usually good to go with a close to similar guage, i had some lying around.
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