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Old 06-23-2013, 11:37 PM   #26
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you def need to datalog and have a proper dyno tune done!
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:04 AM   #27
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I just emailed CBM motorsports so i have a reminder to give them a call... same with Cunningham... just gotta wait for the morning to come now.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:34 AM   #28
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Your numbers do seem real low I have the Edelbrock SC. I think you need to get the tune check. And also your going to need to the JRE fuel line mod for it if your want to get more power out of it. Here is the link for the fuel mod http://www.jreperformanceparts.com/j...el-system.html.
If you looking for the 3.5 pulley I have one with the belt if your look for the pulley you can P.M. me. And also you can call Haddad Motorsports (310) 412-8032 ask for Mike
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:26 AM   #29
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Your numbers do seem real low I have the Edelbrock SC. I think you need to get the tune check. And also your going to need to the JRE fuel line mod for it if your want to get more power out of it. Here is the link for the fuel mod http://www.jreperformanceparts.com/j...el-system.html.
If you looking for the 3.5 pulley I have one with the belt if your look for the pulley you can P.M. me. And also you can call Haddad Motorsports (310) 412-8032 ask for Mike
he can help with the tune.

Pm sent.. as for the fuel system, the site says 52lb injectors... the kit I got already included these with it... I'll put Haddad motorsports on my list for contacts tomorrow as well.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:23 AM   #30
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318rwhp bone stock, I entered with 369rwhp with LTH, cai, flowmasters, no cats no tune... came out with 443 sc'd, tuned and cai kinda became obsolete since they hacked it up... AEM custom built a new one for us shortly after, but didn't get it re tuned yet.
I was at 428 with just a cam in my L99,
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #31
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So back to the original subject... Throttle Body upgrade, any recommendations on brand?
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:38 PM   #32
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In a 102 mm you have 2 choices. Nick Williams and TPIS. The NW 102 has major issues on higher boost builds but you may be ok. The TPIS takes a little work to dial it in but works with all the blowers.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:19 PM   #33
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did BBK just come out with one, or is it not trusted? i saw the one for NW, but didn't see one for TPiS
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:22 PM   #34
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did BBK just come out with one, or is it not trusted? i saw the one for NW, but didn't see one for TPiS


The bbk one was supposed to be released a little while ago. As far as I know it's not available yet but I haven't followed it.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:32 PM   #35
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The bbk one was supposed to be released a little while ago. As far as I know it's not available yet but I haven't followed it.
Yeah, that's what i'm starting to see... all the sites have them listed for sale, but none actually have any 'real' inventory even though the site says they do ha.

I read a thread on here just moments ago saying another few weeks... which i guess has been going on for a few months now...
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Yeah, that's what i'm starting to see... all the sites have them listed for sale, but none actually have any 'real' inventory even though the site says they do ha.

I read a thread on here just moments ago saying another few weeks... which i guess has been going on for a few months now...
It's been a few weeks for a few months now. You can do the math...


I wouldn't hold your breath. The NW 102 is a great piece, as long as it doesn't slam shut on you.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:44 PM   #37
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FWIW, my shop dyno'd my car with full bolt-ons, and then again after the Maggie. It gained almost 150 whp.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:33 PM   #38
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In a 102 mm you have 2 choices. Nick Williams and TPIS. The NW 102 has major issues on higher boost builds but you may be ok. The TPIS takes a little work to dial it in but works with all the blowers.
What do you consider higher boost?

Also, the problem with the NW 102 slamming shut, is that an issue with all of them or just the older ones?
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What do you consider higher boost?

Also, the problem with the NW 102 slamming shut, is that an issue with all of them or just the older ones?
The NW seems to fail when you start pushing the pd blowers up past 14 psi, give or take a psi or so. Mine failed closer to 16 but some do a bit less.

It's an issue with all the NW 102's. I've tried all the revised ones. We tried 4 in one day at the camaro fest last year.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:43 PM   #40
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I would assume my 9-10lbs would be safe?

Porting: Does only the edge where the TB and snout meet need to be ported, or all the way back?
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:59 PM   #41
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i got a hold of CBM Motorsports, this guy has basically said what is on this thread - numbers seem low and should estimate 20hp w/ each # of boost... he also didn't knock the edelbrock SC... so, it looks like i may have a winning tune shop to go with. quoted me $600 for tune and would install the pulley and belt for me included... not bad
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Old 06-24-2013, 05:24 PM   #42
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Those #'s are low but its the overall gain thats pathetic. Something is not right there. I would think you should have gained double that.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:13 PM   #43
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On pd blowers I think 8 or 9 psi is about tops with the stock l99 cam. Much more and you have too much boost at the peak torque and detonation is too hard to avoid without giving up more power than its worth. That's why I went centri. 7 psi peak torque, 13 psi at 6200 rpm redline and all is good.

I think you should invest ID 850's, the fuel rail mod, ZL1 pump, ADM FPCM, and then push 8 or 9 psi. You will love the power once the tune is on and You have plenty of fuel supply.
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:22 PM   #44
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The NW seems to fail when you start pushing the pd blowers up past 14 psi, give or take a psi or so. Mine failed closer to 16 but some do a bit less.

It's an issue with all the NW 102's. I've tried all the revised ones. We tried 4 in one day at the camaro fest last year.

So you think my whipple would be fine with the 3.875 pulley about 9 to 10 psi. I am visiting ted over the fourth of july and will pick one up if JRE has it in stock. 20 hp is not to bad I will take it.
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So you think my whipple would be fine with the 3.875 pulley about 9 to 10 psi. I am visiting ted over the fourth of july and will pick one up if JRE has it in stock. 20 hp is not to bad I will take it.

NYNY69 is running a 3.875 on his whip and its been ok. I'd check with Ted and get his thoughts on the fuel aspect of it. I think you'd be ok.
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NYNY69 is running a 3.875 on his whip and its been ok. I'd check with Ted and get his thoughts on the fuel aspect of it. I think you'd be ok.
Ya I updated my fuel since my initial install to a ZL1 pump and a ADM FPCM.
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Ya I updated my fuel since my initial install to a ZL1 pump and a ADM FPCM.

Let it roll. I don't see any problems!
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Let it roll. I don't see any problems!
Will do thanks. I am traveling from WI over the 4th to NY then stopping at Teds on my way to maine ,if I got any money left. I am driving my car there to see if Ted has any ideas for me to spend more money.
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Will do thanks. I am traveling from WI over the 4th to NY then stopping at Teds on my way to maine ,if I got any money left. I am driving my car there to see if Ted has any ideas for me to spend more money.
102mm tb.

Is Ted even open on the 5th?
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I'll have my Nick Williams 102 for sale soon. Love the TB, but mine has shut twice at the track. I'm at 718 rwhp and see about 11 lbs of boost.
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