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Old 03-05-2013, 02:58 PM   #71
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Scott: Is there any way that we could get the figures for the 2010 Model year? I promise to not make a chart using your figures
We're working on it.

There are preliminary numbers in the Camaro White book - but the numbers don't -- I believe - represent every car built for that model year. It may be only for North America or the U.S.

Now here's the bad part - the system where we pull the numbers from has been purged for the 2010 model year. I'm working with someone in I/T to see if we can take another system (warranty) and somehow re-construct........

More to come.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:40 PM   #72
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:04 AM   #73
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All -- I caution everyone about these charts -

while it's an 'interesting' look - (..... I'm not exactly sure how the O.P. came up with these figures - it appears that the percentages of interiors were applied across the various colors/transmissions/models -- which really doesn't mean anything....thus, the figures are misleading -- one could argue they're false.........)

I have concern that someone will look at the chart -- perhaps the ONE guy that owns (according to this chart) The ONLY Camaro built like this:

"Imperial Blue 1SS Coupe Manual Transmission Non RS with a Beige Cloth interior. "

The reality is that there may have been 12 of them built like that - again the database for the chart seems to me that percentages were applied across the various model configurations.

Further --

The chart shows that we built 26 2LSs with a Manual Transmission (not possible as a 2LS comes with only Automatic)

....and 1,016 1LSs with an Automatic Transmission....... (not possible as a 1LS comes with only a manual transmission.)

There's a reason we don't break the numbers down further than what I've posted - it's simply too difficult to take the numbers and break them down further without running the risk of having false figures.....


Thus - I ask that the charts be removed.
Well - I was going to remove this morning, but I guess the mods got to it first (Also they are still showing in quoted text. Unsure of a way to remove those). I am subscribed to this thread and usually read the responses every night. Sorry to all that have asked questions and I didn't respond. It has been hectic here of late to say the least. Thanks to All Star\Fbodfather for pointing out the 1LS\2LS issue - I just didn't have the time to recalculate everything.

Reading the responses and my original posts, it seemed like everyone understood that these were rough probabilities based on percentage allocations. This is also why I added it to this thread instead of created a new one - I wanted people to see the official numbers from source and then lead in to my estimates such that no one would take it as the exact.

I do believe that this is an interesting enough view to keep in the community, but perhaps refreshed - two options to consider:
  • Into general percentages (And remove interior) - This would give the idea of out of the total v6s\v8s, the likely percentage that your car would fall into.
  • Create a 1-10 index on rarity (And remove interior) - use the numbers above without the interior break-downs to create a 'rarity index' with 1 being most rare and 10 being most common. This also alludes to a general idea of how rare an option set is.
Otherwise - if we don't feel that either of these options is a good middle-ground, then I will simply do nothing more, or create charts based on the actual data supplied versus creating estimates.

Fbod - If you have the time, PM me and let me know your thoughts.

Thanks all for the comments.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:12 PM   #74
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I hope this will help, I did a search on the www and found this:
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:43 AM   #75
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thanks again for this Scott, seemed like a lot of work
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:49 AM   #76
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Your efforts on this are appreciated. Very informative.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:52 AM   #77
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I just found a new 2012 2SS/RS Synergy edition (OK, it had 196 miles on it because the salesman that sold it to me loved it) at a dealership on Sunday, and my husband and I were wondering about this. Thanks for the info!

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Old 06-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #80
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thank you for your time putting this info, together for our Camaro owners. We have wanted this info since the day we purchased our cars.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:58 AM   #81
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I bet there's not too many like mine, 11 SS2/RS vert beige top, beige leather. Hope I can keep it forever!
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thank you for your time putting this info, together for our Camaro owners. We have wanted this info since the day we purchased our cars.
Many here are still waiting for accurate 2010 build figures from GM.... Scott ?
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Many here are still waiting for accurate 2010 build figures from GM.... Scott ?
Getting the 2010 numbers will be a bit more difficult. It requires that we use another type of database - I'm working on 2013s right now.........
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Getting the 2010 numbers will be a bit more difficult. It requires that we use another type of database - I'm working on 2013s right now.........
Scott- I'm glad you havn't forgotten about us loyal old timers....
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