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Old 06-14-2013, 10:55 AM   #18
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Interesting. I wonder if this affects how the airbags are activated?
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:09 PM   #19
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Interesting. I wonder if this affects how the airbags are activated?
No effect. Airbags function off impact-sensors mounted behind the front bumper.

Also remember this is a factory GM part, same as 2013 auto Camaro, and 2010-2012 manual and auto Camaros. It will provide the all the same features and functionality as it does in those applications.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:55 PM   #20
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No effect. Airbags function off impact-sensors mounted behind the front bumper.

Also remember this is a factory GM part, same as 2013 auto Camaro, and 2010-2012 manual and auto Camaros. It will provide the all the same features and functionality as it does in those applications.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:28 AM   #21
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Changed mine out last night.... Works like a charm!!!!!! Ding Dong the HSA is DEAD! add that to my already installed "skip Shift Eliminator" and...no more nannies!! WoooHooo!!! I'm a happy camper, I can now drive my standard like it should be!!

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Old 06-22-2013, 12:08 PM   #22
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Finished mine just now and I'm much happier!!

Only thing that's a pain in the ass is the two rear screws that hold down the back of the console. Barely got them out but now I'm going to Harbor Freight to get this: http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece...ver-92630.html so I can reinstall them tight.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:11 AM   #23
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I might have to try this. The biggest problem I have with HSA is being inconsistent when it activates. Most of the time I have my wheel turned so I can't see the indicator in the gauges that it activated. I never had an issue stalling as I'm responsive enough to feel the brakes being applied before RPMs dropping.

Can't tell if the inconsistency is because of the way I drive or the car itself. I don't always come to a complete stop, and I believe that is required for it to activate.
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #24
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Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy a used one? Am I off base?
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:48 PM   #25
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Holy tits I just found this thread. Yea buddy!
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:21 AM   #26
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I wonder, is there room for both in the console, and would it be possible to leave the old, install the new, and have some sort of switch to switch from one to the other? (like an On/Off for HSA)
I wonder if the computer in the car would tolerate an on-the-fly change like that or if you'd be in CEL hell (or worse?). The switching would be easy enough if the computer didn't have an allergic reaction.
It could be tested by having the car running and unplugging the stock unit and see what happens, then plug it back in and see if the CEL's go away?
Who wants to try it?
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:32 AM   #27
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I wonder, is there room for both in the console, and would it be possible to leave the old, install the new, and have some sort of switch to switch from one to the other? (like an On/Off for HSA)
I wonder if the computer in the car would tolerate an on-the-fly change like that or if you'd be in CEL hell (or worse?). The switching would be easy enough if the computer didn't have an allergic reaction.
It could be tested by having the car running and unplugging the stock unit and see what happens, then plug it back in and see if the CEL's go away?
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Why would someone even want to do? It is counterproductive! The purpose is to remove it as it is not needed or wanted.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:23 AM   #28
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After engaging HSA then blipping the throttle to 4k+ rpm to reset the torque sensor (as mentioned in another HSA thread), I've found that the brakes actually release as they should, when the should. While I agree, for me, I'd rather have no HSA in the first place, occasionally my wife needs to drive my car for one reason or another. As she doesn't have much experience with a standard (we're working on it), I thought it would be cool to be able to switch the HSA back on for her now that it seems to be working correctly.
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After engaging HSA then blipping the throttle to 4k+ rpm to reset the torque sensor (as mentioned in another HSA thread), I've found that the brakes actually release as they should, when the should. While I agree, for me, I'd rather have no HSA in the first place, occasionally my wife needs to drive my car for one reason or another. As she doesn't have much experience with a standard (we're working on it), I thought it would be cool to be able to switch the HSA back on for her now that it seems to be working correctly.
I tried getting HSA to work the way the manual states it should, several times before swapping sensors. Every single time it would hold the brakes for 2-3 seconds. If GM can't figure out how to program the system to know when you're pressing the gas pedal and to release the brakes immediately then I don't want that system on my car.

It's not brand new technology, it shouldn't be difficult to make it work correctly and it sure as hell shouldn't be mandatory.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:29 PM   #30
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It's not brand new technology, it shouldn't be difficult to make it work correctly and it sure as hell shouldn't be mandatory.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:23 PM   #31
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I would've expected my car would need a different sensor but gmparts shows it to be the same part #. Tempted to do this... I do stall this car more than I ever did my GTO. And that scares me as I'm still breaking it in.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:10 PM   #32
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Would it be a good idea to disconnect the battery before tearing down the console and swapping the sensor?
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:33 PM   #33
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I've said it elsewhere, BMW had this on their manuals in 2006, maybe even earlier, and it was no problem what so ever. There are a HUGE number of technologies just coming out in American cars which have been around for a VERY long time in the foreign jobs. Why is it we can't seem to "copy" other peoples crap correctly? Aren't we supposed to be "leader in tech?"

Aside from that little rant, I'm glad this seems to be my biggest issue with my 1LE thus far. Thanks for the writeup.

Anyone know what the ramifications to your warrant might be? Electrical gremlins are the worst kind to catch and I'm not too eager at the idea of my stealer telling me I caused an issue because I messed around changing a sensor.

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Old 07-09-2013, 12:42 PM   #34
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I've said it elsewhere, BMW had this on their manuals in 2006, maybe even earlier, and it was no problem what so ever. There are a HUGE number of technologies just coming out in American cars which have been around for a VERY long time in the foreign jobs. Why is it we can't seem to "copy" other peoples crap correctly? Aren't we supposed to be "leader in tech?"

Aside from that little rant, I'm glad this seems to be my biggest issue with my 1LE thus far. Thanks for the writeup.

Anyone know what the ramifications to your warrant might be? Electrical gremlins are the worst kind to catch and I'm not too eager at the idea of my stealer telling me I caused an issue because I messed around changing a sensor.

Been there done that, had the T-shirt and burned it.

The installed part has to be proven as the cause of a failure. I have read of no other people having that trouble at the dealer.The first question you need to ask yourself is why would a dealer even investigate? They aren't trouble shooters, they find the defective part and replace it. I will replace mine and not worry about it!
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