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Old 03-18-2013, 12:34 PM   #18
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It also depends on who is driving. A guy in town has a '13 gt500, and he could not take me in my SS bolt on only.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:17 PM   #19
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It also depends on who is driving. A guy in town has a '13 gt500, and he could not take me in my SS bolt on only.
Awesome, those are the posts I like to see.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:12 PM   #20
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When I was cammed and full bolt ons with stock heads I hit high 11s and low 12s all night long. Best I've ever seen a ZL1 do is a 12.3 with average being 12.6-12.8
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:24 PM   #21
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When I was cammed and full bolt ons with stock heads I hit high 11s and low 12s all night long. Best I've ever seen a ZL1 do is a 12.3 with average being 12.6-12.8
What kind of power were you making and was that on P-zeros? I've been curious what my car would do in the 1/4 since I got the blower, but I haven't been to the track since last year. Back then, I was full bolt-ons and 3.70 gears and my best was 12.8 (although, I'm not a very experienced drag racer, so there was room for improvement). I was making about 350-ish rwhp. Now I'm at about 500 rwhp. I've wondered if I could make it out of the 12's with P-zeros.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:10 AM   #22
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It also depends on who is driving. A guy in town has a '13 gt500, and he could not take me in my SS bolt on only.
That guy does not know how to drive his 13 GT500...... If he had his nannies off the car is actually slower(if you can't drive) as it wont hook until third, with the nannies on it hooks up better but you can feel the power loss in the engine as the ECM reduces the power to compensate for wheel-spin. If you know how to drive this car with the nannies off it flies.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:25 PM   #23
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Makes me wish I would have bought an SS and thrown the extra $$ into mods. Oh well, too late now. Just have to mod the ZL1 I guess.
The LSA engine is much stouter than the LS3. Go with a 417 stroker (since your in there add a cam and forged internals), swap the 1.9 for a 2.3 maggie or whipple, and crank the boost up to about 14 psi and you are looking at 725-750 to the wheels my friend!
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:33 PM   #24
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Well my car makes 476 wheel which is ~560 crank. So 20 less than a ZL1 but it weighs less as well. Plus you have to factor in boost and such. I think I could take a bone stock one but once they do anything it's over. Especially a pulley.
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:13 PM   #25
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My car is N/A with Lethal Racing Night Fury cam, Heads, LT Headers, Corsa, Vararam, and all supporting bolt ons. 508 RWHP. Seems to me that a ZL1 would have tough time getting around this one.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:05 AM   #26
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One thing to also think about is gears. ZL1 has 3:73 stock ss has 3:45. Based on the dyno ZL1's are 485 - 515 on the dyno. Another consideration is body movement. On mine when I switched over to pfadt rear frame and differential bushings It was like night and day for both handling and takeoff. An ss with engine, gears and chassis mods should be able to keep up or beat a zl1.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:11 PM   #27
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It also depends on who is driving. A guy in town has a '13 gt500, and he could not take me in my SS bolt on only.
This is the most obvious and understated fact of a drag or any other race. If there is a significant difference in the abilities of the drivers, the "slower" car can win.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:42 PM   #28
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My car is N/A with Lethal Racing Night Fury cam, Heads, LT Headers, Corsa, Vararam, and all supporting bolt ons. 508 RWHP. Seems to me that a ZL1 would have tough time getting around this one.
And you'll have a tough time around a corner, lol. I love when people compare a stock car vs a modified I justify there car being faster or choosing it because it was the cheaper route. Anytime you put $$ into a car to modify it itll end up being faster then it's big brother counterpart in this case the ZL1.
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Old 08-11-2013, 03:25 PM   #29
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And you'll have a tough time around a corner, lol. I love when people compare a stock car vs a modified I justify there car being faster or choosing it because it was the cheaper route. Anytime you put $$ into a car to modify it itll end up being faster then it's big brother counterpart in this case the ZL1.
The title of this thread is "ZL1 vs n/a modded SS". He was answering the question, so what was the purpose of your comment?
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Old 08-11-2013, 03:34 PM   #30
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I've had both cars

A good driver in a M6 bolt on only SS... With 3.90 gear
430rwhp

No heads or cam needed

Can beat a stock zl1

Zl1s are HEAVY
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Old 08-11-2013, 05:35 PM   #31
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What would win in a race a stock ZL1 or an SS with heads, cam, ud pully, ported tb?
You could modify a n/a SS to outrun the ZL-1 I'm sure. But remember, when you do heavy modifications like that you usually decrease the lifespan of the car and you also decrease its value from stock condition. So to get this ZL-1, you would have to sink a good bit of $ into the SS, probably make it less daily driver friendly (if you had that in mind), and reduce its salvage value later. But could you mod one to beat a ZL-1? Sure. In America, if you have the $ you can do pretty much anything.
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:00 PM   #32
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The title of this thread is "ZL1 vs n/a modded SS". He was answering the question, so what was the purpose of your comment?
A public forum usually generates personal opinions or opinionated statements. In other words I felt like it, no need to get emo on me.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:07 PM   #33
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A public forum usually generates personal opinions or opinionated statements. In other words I felt like it, no need to get emo on me.
Nah, I might have misread, but you seemed mad that he would compare the two cars when that was the very purpose of this thread. Don't worry, I'm not emo because I'm selling my car anyway for something better.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:35 PM   #34
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Nah, I might have misread, but you seemed mad that he would compare the two cars when that was the very purpose of this thread. Don't worry, I'm not emo because I'm selling my car anyway for something better.
Noooo I'm not mad. I love this forum too much to have it effect my mental state. Tons of great members on this forum and the amount of knowledge here can't be compared to any other forum that I have ever been apart of. I love it!

Sorry to hear your selling your car. Hope everything works out for you.
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