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Old 11-26-2012, 03:21 PM   #35
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As a Supercharger manufacturer I can assure you that the margins are not as high as many of you may think.

But building supercharger kits sure beats digging ditches!!
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:34 PM   #36
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As someone who just finished a tvs2300 install and went for their first drive. I can tell you they are worth every penny.
Plastic surgery couldn't take the grin off my face.
And I drive a high 9 second drag car. This is my first foray into FI and there is something crazy about boost. All that power under the peak curve is my guess.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:56 AM   #37
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i really never seen the value in going down a supercharger route. after everything is installed and tune. and lets be honest who the hell just puts a s/c in there car?. people do other mods as well. exhaust, maybe a PSI gauge, rims and tires maybe. other supporting mods to help longevity. maybe suspension mods etc..all of that with for the most part loss of a warranty.

I feel like if you were to take that money, put it into a Zl1 the payments really wouldn't be much more, or even more at all. you will be getting a better suspension, s/c engine, better rims/tires and a warranty.
What happens if you want more than 580hp? Or a car that can't just be bought off of any dealership. I really wanted a zl1 when they came out just because they had more power, but I have a decent amount more and a better handling car in an ss. I can see your warranty concern but I don't worry about that because all my labor is free.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:15 PM   #38
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As a Supercharger manufacturer I can assure you that the margins are not as high as many of you may think.

But building supercharger kits sure beats digging ditches!!
Have you tried using paper-mache as a building material? Might be able to save some money on the production side...

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:15 PM   #39
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..European rattle box's don't do anything for me... .
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:18 PM   #40
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They are expensive because the people who buy them are willing to pay a lot for them.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:20 PM   #41
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I imagine part of the difference in price between Camaro and Mustang S/C would have something to do with volume also. My guess is that there are more customers for Stang chargers??
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:42 PM   #42
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There is an insane amount of R& D that goes into producing something like a supercharger.
I know that the eaton rotors in the TVS are not cheap... Then factor in the labor hours to machine the pieces & assemble them. I think SLP has it right by offering their new supercharger system at 6750...

The reason the mustang supercharger is cheaper is because it is a front drive. Compare apples to apples and it will work out to be right about the same.
The Edelbrock and the SLP S/C are front drive S/C. I paid $6200 for my
E-Force S/C. The price is not only the S/C itself. It's all the parts that go with it. Radiator, hoses, water pump, fuel lines, heater hoses, etc.







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Old 06-27-2013, 02:59 PM   #43
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The Edelbrock and the SLP S/C are front drive S/C. I paid $6200 for my
E-Force S/C. The price is not only the S/C itself. It's all the parts that go with it. Radiator, hoses, water pump, fuel lines, heater hoses, etc.


Looks like someone is going to have fun this weekend!
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:01 PM   #44
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Looks like someone is going to have fun this weekend!
No, it's been on since Sept. 2010. That was 19K miles ago.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:49 PM   #45
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I would say it's market driven...

My for instance I'm only talking about Centrifugal Blowers. PD have a lot of tech and are pricey, no denying that. Keep in mind below are still retail prices.

However...

Nice older styled oil cooled non-intercooled Paxton kit for Rustang $2500: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAXTON-NOVI-...00e97f&vxp=mtr

Novi 1200 non-intercooled Kit for Rustang 4.6 mod motor $4255:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paxton-NOVI-...893b17&vxp=mtr

Novi 1500 non-intercooled kit for Rustang carbed $4000k:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-351ci-C...34d35f&vxp=mtr

Intercooler with piping and BOV for anything, universal crap $300:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-TU...344ab5&vxp=mtr

Finally for a tuner kit if you could source out mounting brackets and pulley's and using intercooler you would need the head unit, and I've seen some V3's as low as $1300 new:

Vortech V3 $1700:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortech-V3-S...2629bc&vxp=mtr

Or Procharger P-1SC for $2300:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Procharger-P...57f946&vxp=mtr

I just can't figure how to get the brackets

Blower V3 $1700+intercooler $300+ brackets and pullies ($500 guess)= $2500

I would say demand definitely drives prices.
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Rattle boxes?
Yup... my opinion....

I've ridden in some high end European vehicles, Mercedes, Audi, BMW's, one Lambo, and every one of them had some piece part here or there....

Most of them were body panels or interior pieces that just didn't seem to stay in place... it was a harmonic rattle usually RPM related, but intolerable never the less....

Only one of these was a brand new car but all of them were less than 2 years old....
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:03 AM   #47
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My for instance I'm only talking about Centrifugal Blowers. PD have a lot of tech and are pricey, no denying that. Keep in mind below are still retail prices.

However...

Nice older styled oil cooled non-intercooled Paxton kit for Rustang $2500: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAXTON-NOVI-...00e97f&vxp=mtr

Novi 1200 non-intercooled Kit for Rustang 4.6 mod motor $4255:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paxton-NOVI-...893b17&vxp=mtr

Novi 1500 non-intercooled kit for Rustang carbed $4000k:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-351ci-C...34d35f&vxp=mtr

Intercooler with piping and BOV for anything, universal crap $300:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-TU...344ab5&vxp=mtr

Finally for a tuner kit if you could source out mounting brackets and pulley's and using intercooler you would need the head unit, and I've seen some V3's as low as $1300 new:

Vortech V3 $1700:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortech-V3-S...2629bc&vxp=mtr

Or Procharger P-1SC for $2300:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Procharger-P...57f946&vxp=mtr

I just can't figure how to get the brackets

Blower V3 $1700+intercooler $300+ brackets and pullies ($500 guess)= $2500

I would say demand definitely drives prices.
+ belt, + idlers, + piping, +clamps, +silicone couplers, + hardware, +fuel system, + air inlet, +Bypass/bov. A blower kit is a lot more than brackets, pulleys. Just the brackets are $600-2000 depending on the bracket. Idlers, tensioners, etc all add up.
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As someone who just finished a tvs2300 install and went for their first drive. I can tell you they are worth every penny.
Plastic surgery couldn't take the grin off my face.
And I drive a high 9 second drag car. This is my first foray into FI and there is something crazy about boost. All that power under the peak curve is my guess.


The S/C and install was a pretty penny, but the car is such a blast now. Heck, it was a blast with just bolt-ons, now it's a little scary. Say you spend 8-10K to supercharge your car. You're making as much power as cars that cost 100K+, so relatively speaking, it's pretty cost effective.
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Mine cost under $6k to do. Install was too easy. And now that the roads have better traction it is even funner (less scary though )
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I did say tuner kit

I did say tuner kit... Generic intercooler for $300 came with couplings, BOV, etc. Brackets for mounting blower costs $600-2000!!! Thats insane. Pure insanity. Numbers will never add up, as evidenced by cheaper cars kits costing half as much for similiar power gains. Most of the big companys only claim 150hp more or so on our cars.


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+ belt, + idlers, + piping, +clamps, +silicone couplers, + hardware, +fuel system, + air inlet, +Bypass/bov. A blower kit is a lot more than brackets, pulleys. Just the brackets are $600-2000 depending on the bracket. Idlers, tensioners, etc all add up.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:51 PM   #51
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What is a twin turbo kit gonna run you, parts only?
if you want top quality and to harness the power of that tt set up think 11k, if u get it installed and tuned add another 3500. Its not cheap. But its hella fun
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