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Old 06-28-2013, 08:42 PM   #99
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:49 PM   #100
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That I understand. It's just that Invoice is actually confusing. Invoice is the goal, but there is Invoice that doesn't include freight and advertising and Invoice that does and the difference between those two numbers is significant. I am just trying to figure out the real invoice.

As for as not making a lot of money that is true of GM dealers. The difference between MSRP and Invoice is a very narrow margin. Ford allows its dealers to make more money.

It's kind of surprising how much more expensive a camaro is compared to a mustang considering the small margin the dealership gets.
I think there is a profit margin that no one sees but GM and the owner of the GM garage. Another big factor is volume sales discount for the dealer. A dealer will sell below invoice to meet the quota for volume sales. Once quota is met GM gives the dealer incentives be it cash or lower buying price on new stock
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:07 AM   #101
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Never understood why people order cars before pricing is announced and then get shocked when they realize they can't afford the car.
This happened to us once. Back in Feb of 08 we ordered our Buick Enclave. While we were waiting for the car to be built GM had a strike. In mid june we received a note that our 08 car would not be built as they retooled for the 09. We talked to the dealer and said fine keep the deal the same and the dealer ordered the 09. The car arrived at the dealer a few days later, and along with it the new pricing. About $1500.00 higher. Because of the timing and strike, the dealership did not have the any of the new paper work until the day after the car arrived.
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:01 PM   #102
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I think there is a profit margin that no one sees but GM and the owner of the GM garage. Another big factor is volume sales discount for the dealer. A dealer will sell below invoice to meet the quota for volume sales. Once quota is met GM gives the dealer incentives be it cash or lower buying price on new stock
Of course there is. I am sure they get big bonuses for meeting certain criteria that make up. However, as a consumer the difference between the two invoices is a good chunk of change so it helps to know which invoice you are aiming for to know if you are getting a good deal or not.
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:35 PM   #103
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Dang 5 spokes went up exponentially. What was it, $470 this year, and $900 msrp next?

Plus, why is preferred pricing on gas guzzler tax MORE than MSRP?? Does not compute? I thought that was a flat fee, regardless.
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:13 PM   #104
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Plus, why is preferred pricing on gas guzzler tax MORE than MSRP?? Does not compute? I thought that was a flat fee, regardless.
Good catch. I'm curious as well.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:16 PM   #105
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Has the pricing been officially released to the dealers?
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:24 PM   #106
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:51 AM   #107
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Is it me or did the ZL1 MSRP go down? Wasn't it $56K last year?
$605 price increase on the ZL1. Base MSRP for 2013 was $54,350
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:38 AM   #108
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Dang 5 spokes went up exponentially. What was it, $470 this year, and $900 msrp next?

Plus, why is preferred pricing on gas guzzler tax MORE than MSRP?? Does not compute? I thought that was a flat fee, regardless.
Yes, I was wondering that myself . ( the 5 spoke rims). Almost double. 2013 says polished aluminum . 2014 says bright aluminum. Asked dealer, guess what? I don't know. Any way ordered 2014 Black 2ss rs convertible IOA trim seats and orange rally stripe with the rims. Production week 7-22. Got it 100 under preferred pricing.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:59 PM   #109
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What does DFC on 2014 Camaro Pricing sheet stand for?

On the 2014 Camaro pricing sheet what does DFC $995 stand for? Distance finance charge or what?
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:48 PM   #112
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$605 price increase on the ZL1. Base MSRP for 2013 was $54,350
That's MSRP for a 1LE in Canada!!
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