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Old 07-01-2013, 06:21 PM   #126
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I was answering a question in another thread and snapped a quick photo of a Kooks (top), Stainless Works (middle), and ARH (bottom) drivers side header for comparison sake. Though this might be a good place to post it as well.

Chase it would've been nice if you took the wrapping off our collectors to show the difference. Anyone that knows anything about headers will notice a few distinct differences between the three designs pictured and not just from the collectors. Take a close look at primary length and routing as an example. It is radically different. This is why all headers are not created equal.

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Old 07-01-2013, 08:21 PM   #127
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Chase it would've been nice if you took the wrapping off our collectors to show the difference. Anyone that knows anything about headers will notice a few distinct differences between the three designs pictured and not just from the collectors. Take a close look at primary length and routing as an example. It is radically different. This is why all headers are not created equal.

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It wasn't relevant to the point that was being made in the other thread and I didn't see any reason to destroy packaging. I have something else in the works that will cover some of the things you mentioned in more detail.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:01 PM   #128
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I think this is the most constructive thread out here.....
It is very simple but interesting to see the three headers laying next to each other....
They are different in many ways....

Then I looked at Texas Speed and yet another design.....
Very interesting.....
Glad you have found it helpful. I have more that I will be adding as soon as I get a chance to put it together.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:44 PM   #129
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Great Post!

I was very happy with my JBA 1 7/8" Long Tubes and they had a V-band connection to the mid-pipes. They are built from 409SS but I always get ceramic coated so 304vs409 means nothing really to me. I love the Kooks products and ARH but they are out of my price range.

I have attached an image so you can compare the JBA DR side.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:29 PM   #130
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Great Post!

I was very happy with my JBA 1 7/8" Long Tubes and they had a V-band connection to the mid-pipes. They are built from 409SS but I always get ceramic coated so 304vs409 means nothing really to me. I love the Kooks products and ARH but they are out of my price range.

I have attached an image so you can compare the JBA DR side.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:33 PM   #131
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I have a question. I have a 2010 ss Camaro and I want to put Borla long tube headers on it. I currently have a Cat back borla but the headers will get rid of the cat. If i put on the headers will i need a tune or will the car run well. I know the check engine light will be on but other than that?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:07 PM   #132
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I have a question. I have a 2010 ss Camaro and I want to put Borla long tube headers on it. I currently have a Cat back borla but the headers will get rid of the cat. If i put on the headers will i need a tune or will the car run well. I know the check engine light will be on but other than that?
To be honest, you can get a much better set of headers for your money. Borla makes nice exhaust systems but their headers are not very good. I would recommend looking elsewhere. Your car will run without a tune but you are leaving a lot of performance on the table (and adding power is what going to LT headers is all about) and you are playing with fire when you drive around with your CEL on.
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To be honest, you can get a much better set of headers for your money. Borla makes nice exhaust systems but their headers are not very good. I would recommend looking elsewhere. Your car will run without a tune but you are leaving a lot of performance on the table (and adding power is what going to LT headers is all about) and you are playing with fire when you drive around with your CEL on.
Im deciding between the 1 7/8 Kooks Lt headers with high flow cats and x pipe or 1 7/8 american racing headers with high flow cats and x pipe whats your opinion with price and performance ?
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:25 AM   #134
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Im deciding between the 1 7/8 Kooks Lt headers with high flow cats and x pipe or 1 7/8 american racing headers with high flow cats and x pipe whats your opinion with price and performance ?
The good news is that you can not make a wrong decision between those two. In terms of quality and performance they are almost identical. Price is really the only factor of any significance.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:28 PM   #135
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Pfadt headers/cats arrived yesterday afternoon, very nice. Going on today, taking it to a friend who has a lift, will start another thread w/pics.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:13 PM   #136
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Pfadt headers/cats arrived yesterday afternoon, very nice. Going on today, taking it to a friend who has a lift, will start another thread w/pics.
Awesome! Can't wait to read your thread.
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:03 PM   #137
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The good news is that you can not make a wrong decision between those two. In terms of quality and performance they are almost identical. Price is really the only factor of any significance.
I went by my shop to see about getting some headers installed.
I told them I wanted to et the tri y's,
They kind of said the American racing would see the same type of gains.
What do you think between these two choices?
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I went by my shop to see about getting some headers installed.
I told them I wanted to et the tri y's,
They kind of said the American racing would see the same type of gains.
What do you think between these two choices?
To give a full answer I really need to know more about your car and how you use it. In a broad stroke, they both are an outstanding set of headers and priced pretty much identically. Peak gains are probably going to be similar but Pfadt Tri-Ys have the advantage most of the time in the mid-range.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:15 PM   #139
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To give a full answer I really need to know more about your car and how you use it. In a broad stroke, they both are an outstanding set of headers and priced pretty much identically. Peak gains are probably going to be similar but Pfadt Tri-Ys have the advantage most of the time in the mid-range.
I got a ss with CAI
Plan on doing headers, either the pfadt or AR....
Maybe a night fury cam and tune as well.
I don't race, just city driving.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:27 PM   #140
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I have a question. I have a 2010 ss Camaro and I want to put Borla long tube headers on it. I currently have a Cat back borla but the headers will get rid of the cat. If i put on the headers will i need a tune or will the car run well. I know the check engine light will be on but other than that?
I saw these in person the other day with the borla exhaust. I have to say that I wasn't super impressed with the look or sound. I agree that you can do better.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:30 PM   #141
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I got a ss with CAI
Plan on doing headers, either the pfadt or AR....
Maybe a night fury cam and tune as well.
I don't race, just city driving.
Ill be posting up the same setup soon! 13 SS, CAI, apex scoop, pfadts, npp, nf cam, vmax ptb! Might be a couple weeks till I can make it to lethal tho! Stupid work! Lol
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:01 AM   #142
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Ill be posting up the same setup soon! 13 SS, CAI, apex scoop, pfadts, npp, nf cam, vmax ptb! Might be a couple weeks till I can make it to lethal tho! Stupid work! Lol
That's awesome.
Same setup but I don't have the scoop!
Also heard the tb didn't do anything?
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Awesome! Can't wait to read your thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=46

With everything stock except for the Pfadt headers, very noticeable acceleration gains.
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ARH is equal length right, what about the difference in these headers vs non equal length?
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With everything stock except for the Pfadt headers, very noticeable acceleration gains.
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This thread is helping. I have JBA shorty headers and will be swapping out to LTs. When I started reading and searching I was a bit lost. Several very good options available within a very close price range. I'm torn between Kooks stepped headers and the recently released Pfadt tri-y offering. Almost a flip of a coin to choose........
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This thread is helping. I have JBA shorty headers and will be swapping out to LTs. When I started reading and searching I was a bit lost. Several very good options available within a very close price range. I'm torn between Kooks stepped headers and the recently released Pfadt tri-y offering. Almost a flip of a coin to choose........
Glad to hear that the thread has been helpful. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:28 PM   #148
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That's awesome.
Same setup but I don't have the scoop!
Also heard the tb didn't do anything?
The ported throttle body I did for added throttle response not the gains. I've read like 5-10whp but that's just a plus as far as I'm concerned! It was worth it though trust me!
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The ported throttle body I did for added throttle response not the gains. I've read like 5-10whp but that's just a plus as far as I'm concerned! It was worth it though trust me!
Improved throttle response is the primary benefit of the ported throttle body. A little extra power is just gravy.
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Old 08-10-2013, 07:07 AM   #150
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One thing to keep in mind is the cab noise with an exhaust like these. This is my camaro, and it's loud, but I can't go without hearing that rumble.
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