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Old 06-12-2013, 01:15 PM   #1
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Tuning really sucks ( who to believe )

OK, I had my car on a dyno and I posted the sheet in another post. We all saw that I was lean way to much time and then rich right at the end. I emailed this sheet to my tuner along with a logged run. Now I'm told from them everything is just fine. I've seen other dyno sheets on here and the A/F line is ALOT smoother than mine. So now it seems everyone is a great tuner and contacting me (PMs) about what they can do for me. Well I have $1,000.00 invested already and we all see where that has gotten me. How can I make myself not want to go back to stock or convince myself another tuner will do any better. I know I will spend another $1,000.00+ for two tunes and some software. I know there are great tuners out there but with this LFX none are close to me. So than I have travel time and leave my car or hotel for a couple days. After this experience are Emailed tunes really as good as a dyno tune? I want to go fast and keep the LFX community going at a good pace. You folks have helped me reach this point of fun/horsepower now I just need some more help on my next or maybe final decision. PLEASE NO BASHING, I just want good respectful input.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:18 PM   #2
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Hit up Rhino79 or Matt @ FSP and see if they can help. I don't think it will cost $1K to get HP or EFI live and a remote tune from them.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:31 PM   #3
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Hit up Rhino79 or Matt @ FSP and see if they can help. I don't think it will cost $1K to get HP or EFI live and a remote tune from them.
I agree with this. You have an LFX, take advantage of that. Rhino79 and Matt@FSP are two of the best out there. Don't think you can go wrong with either of them.
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Derricks car's afr was flat as a pancake before the turbo install when I did some baseline tuning. Let me know if I can help.
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I agree with this. You have an LFX, take advantage of that. Rhino79 and Matt@FSP are two of the best out there. Don't think you can go wrong with either of them.

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Yes, Matt and I have spoke before and he has made me a GREAT offer.

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:06 PM   #7
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Thanks for feedback folks. I sent a PM to Matt@FSP to hook me up. I did not come this far to quit.
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OK Matt,
Got the car all lettered up to kick some @$$. Looking forward to our venture. I'll need some FSP stickers you know!!!

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:42 PM   #11
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July 3 update. Got the A/F meter in and just received my HP Tuners software in the mail. On vacation this week, so more to follow in the coming weeks.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:28 PM   #12
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UPDATE: Couple tuning updates done so far. Engine feels ( butt dyno ) very crisp and transmission shifts are nice. It's been in the upper 90s+ here so bear with MATT and myself as we deal with this fun weather. So far I am soooooooo glad I decided to go this route and not give up. i love the HP Tuners software, I get to see LIVE data and can look at the changes being made with each tune update. More to come be patient and when the weather breaks I'm hoping to do some all motor runs. Once that is all worked out than some nitrous tuning.
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Tagging along!! MATT is only an hour drive from me if i go that route. I have a Dynotunenitrous Wideband AFR/Nitrous Pressure on the way and will be anxious to see where my Trifecta has my numbers at various stages of throttle. Hate spending the money twice though...neither one are cheap!! I do like the idea of what u just got so i could turn the fans on sooner. It gets so hot and humid down here!

Does his tune include free updates? what about adjusting the timing for the NOS?
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Tagging along!! MATT is only an hour drive from me if i go that route. I have a Dynotunenitrous Wideband AFR/Nitrous Pressure on the way and will be anxious to see where my Trifecta has my numbers at various stages of throttle. Hate spending the money twice though...neither one are cheap!! I do like the idea of what u just got so i could turn the fans on sooner. It gets so hot and humid down here!

Does his tune include free updates? what about adjusting the timing for the NOS?

Depending on the updates... I do not want to go into tuning wars of tuner A vs B here. What I will say is that how we are doing it with the wideband gauge attached is one of the best methods. Others cannot get widebands to log in their software, so they are relying on customer input and estimated RPM ranges for the wideband reading. We are looking right at the actual wideband being logged and adjusting that way. We really don't have any planned future updates, but yes if I came across something in another tune that would work well on yours I would do a free update no problem. If you add heads/cam combination to the car, then we'll go on a per case by case basis on how much additional for that round of mods. Right now we have a sweet deal going on that includes a free custom tune (This does not mean one tune file, this means from start to finish remote tuning) coupled with the HPTuners software.

You are more than welcome to come here to use the dyno, we can get some base pulls on the car and see if it would be worth even touching the current tune. That is up to you.

etmx: Just shot you a file bud. Enjoy the Camaro cruise!
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Depending on the updates... I do not want to go into tuning wars of tuner A vs B here. What I will say is that how we are doing it with the wideband gauge attached is one of the best methods. Others cannot get widebands to log in their software, so they are relying on customer input and estimated RPM ranges for the wideband reading. We are looking right at the actual wideband being logged and adjusting that way. We really don't have any planned future updates, but yes if I came across something in another tune that would work well on yours I would do a free update no problem. If you add heads/cam combination to the car, then we'll go on a per case by case basis on how much additional for that round of mods. Right now we have a sweet deal going on that includes a free custom tune (This does not mean one tune file, this means from start to finish remote tuning) coupled with the HPTuners software.

You are more than welcome to come here to use the dyno, we can get some base pulls on the car and see if it would be worth even touching the current tune. That is up to you.

etmx: Just shot you a file bud. Enjoy the Camaro cruise!
Thanks for the info...of course the weather right now is not ideal, but I guess a tune for this weather then have another file for when it starts getting nice out would be very handy. I will be in touch with you. Just finishing the wiring on the nitrous and have some dress up goodies to deal with, but once my gauge gets here and installed I will touch base with you. I expect the gauge any day now.
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So...if I were to weld up a bung and install a wideband, and IF I had a HPT, I could somehow log my AFR on my LFX?

Hmmm....

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The afr setup I bought can datalog.
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I should add to the above: I can data log AND send it to be looked at...?

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YES you can I'm doing this right now with MATT@FSP. You can see anything
you want with HPT. If you want to see it live let me know. I'll video tape HPT in use with the wideband and post it on youtube for you to see. PS, you will need their PRO Suite to datalog the Wideband.

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I can't wait to see the results of this. You are going to be the first one running a 100+ shot and the 3.45 gears. I think you are going to be low 12s and maybe even high 11s if you make a trip to ATCO or Englishtown.
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What are you complaining about...you can tune the Sonic!
oh really? I thought they only had trifecta. lol
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So...if I were to weld up a bung and install a wideband, and IF I had a HPT, I could somehow log my AFR on my LFX?

Hmmm....

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HP Tuners has some pre designed PIDs for most widebands and all you have to do is click them into your main table file.

You also have to be mindful of the voltage to your wideband. I run my wideband on a separate power source to keep it pure and independent.

The LFXs can be a little tricky. I got a call from a shop last year because the car kept going into reduced power at WOT and the tuner didn't know how to address it.
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