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Old 07-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #1
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Best intake without tune?

Wondering if any other fellow 1LE owners have installed and intake WITHOUT a tune.

Chime in with what you've got and your thoughts as far as fit, finish, noticeable performance increase, driveability concerns, etc.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:16 PM   #2
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I bought Cold Air Inductions Inc intake...fit and finish was great and looks nice. No CEL and ended keeping it when I put the Maggie on.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:21 PM   #3
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https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...=1&output=html
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:37 PM   #4
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So CAI seems to be the best all around then. Most HP/TQ gains, least installation time, not too much knock,
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:12 AM   #5
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Yeah, no knock, little temp climb, ease of install, fitment & looks, and hp gain
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:41 AM   #6
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Yeah, no knock, little temp climb, ease of install, fitment & looks, and hp gain
Thanks for showing me that table of all those intakes!
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:06 PM   #7
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Yep CAI is pretty much #1 in performance. Roto-Fab is a great system as well and a bit more cost effective. The spread sheet shows the old design but has since been improved upon.

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Old 07-05-2013, 01:08 PM   #8
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After looking at the chart and searching the forums I went with a CAI intake from Apex Chase. Appearance wise, I don't believe the other intakes have anything on it..

I installed it last Saturday and am satisfied with it. Super easy install and detailed, near dummy proof, instructions.. I found it easier than installing the catch can..

Didn't notice as much of a difference, performance wise, as people on here claim, although there was a difference... maybe I was expecting too much after reading rave reviews.. maybe it'll wake up when I get around to installing the scoop and washer relocate... anyway, I think its worth it from the mpg differences alone.. used to average 16 mpg with spirited driving.. now it sits around 18-19.. but who knows how accurate the computer is.. ill find out what it actually is when I make my trip to NY in sepember

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Old 07-05-2013, 01:38 PM   #9
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Awesome spreadsheet! this is some great info. How does Vararam or Volant compare to CAI?? anyone have experience with either. I'm really thinking of getting Vararam. thanks
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:59 PM   #10
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I am looking to possibly add the CAI to my Camaro but was wondering if they have an oil free filter. My last car was a 2012 Mustang GT and I could never get the filter oiled right on the C & L CAI. The car would constantly die on me. I ended up having to remove it.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:52 PM   #11
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Anyone know yet if any of these (current) aftermarket intakes are going to fit the 2014s?
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:34 PM   #12
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I am looking to possibly add the CAI to my Camaro but was wondering if they have an oil free filter. My last car was a 2012 Mustang GT and I could never get the filter oiled right on the C & L CAI. The car would constantly die on me. I ended up having to remove it.
I think on the CAI website it's $16 extra for the dry filter
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:25 PM   #13
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Here's what I put on mine (see line item 2), no tune and I dyno'd at 411 at the wheel whatever that means ...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262501

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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2063
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:07 PM   #14
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Here's what I put on mine (see line item 2), no tune and I dyno'd at 411 at the wheel whatever that means ...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262501

Dyno...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2063
Do you happen to know what your afr was?
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:23 PM   #15
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You have a build thread?! Your 1LE is bad assed!
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:57 PM   #16
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Wondering if any other fellow 1LE owners have installed and intake WITHOUT a tune.

Chime in with what you've got and your thoughts as far as fit, finish, noticeable performance increase, driveability concerns, etc.
Hands down performance wise is the CAI......
and fitment is a snap and obviously not least the finish!!
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:07 AM   #17
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Hands down performance wise is the CAI......
and fitment is a snap and obviously not least the finish!!
Nice... got to get that washer bottle relocated.

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Old 07-06-2013, 12:15 AM   #18
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I like my roto-fab...was about a half-bill cheaper than CAI, looks awesome, gets compliments, etc...imo, and i've said this elsewhere, there's not a major power difference between the big manufacturers. so i went with the cheaper one that i thought looks better in the bay. also, if i ever decide to go with a ram air hood, my air box is already open for it although i would have to drill for my vents again, and wouldn't get anything for my stock hood lol :(
as far as noticeable performance changes...i really don't remember now. i installed it right after my dyno run at 500 miles in january
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:36 AM   #19
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Nice... got to get that washer bottle relocated.

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Yea that's on my to do list. Had the race scoop and relocation done on my 12, just keep putting it off cause I hate the install on the scoop!
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:34 AM   #20
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Going to get one in the very near future! As soon as I pay off this new washer/dryer combo I got during all these crazy Fourth of July sales lol
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:06 AM   #21
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Do you happen to know what your afr was?
What the AFR was stock then now? No clue. Will hooking up my ODBC II monitor tell me?


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Old 07-06-2013, 06:07 AM   #22
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AFR - no. You need a real wideband sensor to detect it and something to display it in real time or log it for review.
So, if it's just a code reader, you really cant tell anything unless the car has stored some codes. The car can store some codes and not activate a CEL.
However, if you have a data logger, then you should be able to see the fuel trims. If they are pegged, then you need a tune or hardware correction.

If we are just talking a couple of bolt-ons, run it over to your dyno shop for an A/F check. If you are running anything more exotic then you may want to install a wideband gauge or logger.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:49 AM   #23
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I had a CAI on my 12', this time went with RotoFab on my 13' and if I were doing it again I'd go with a New Era kit. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:11 PM   #24
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^^^ New Era looks like a nice unit. Someone needs to make a CAI that feeds from the dri. side fog light. Then make a lower billet grill that has fog lights built in it. No one better steal my idea LOL!!
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:18 PM   #25
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It would look something like this. http://www.efihardware.com/products/...-75mm-doughnut
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