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Old 07-02-2013, 06:46 PM   #15
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Who said it was stock and who said its making 850 to the wheels?




In case you missed my post

Weistec's own website and a Drive review.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:29 PM   #16
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Weistec's own website and a Drive review.
You are referencing a totally different car with a totally different engine and induction system.

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Old 07-05-2013, 07:42 AM   #17
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I'd love to own one of these modded AMG's just to hurt people feelings.
Why would it hurt feelings? It's a 65k+ performance sedan.

If you want to hurt feelings, then buy a gutted, LS3 turbo Miata.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:04 AM   #18
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660whp has to be on a very conservative dyno. They weigh what, 3600-3700 lbs? 139mph trap on 660whp at that weight is fast. Definitely not Dynojet numbers.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:12 AM   #19
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660whp has to be on a very conservative dyno. They weigh what, 3600-3700 lbs? 139mph trap on 660whp at that weight is fast. Definitely not Dynojet numbers.
There's no such thing as a conservative dyno.

There is however such a thing as a dyno operator that manipulates the factors on his mustang dyno, which can make it say anything.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:43 AM   #20
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There's no such thing as a conservative dyno.

There is however such a thing as a dyno operator that manipulates the factors on his mustang dyno, which can make it say anything.
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Different dyno manufacturers use different methodology to derive horsepower and torque. Especially with turbocharged cars you will see different results with water-brake, inertia, and electric dynos. Load will affect spool and thus impact charge air temperatures at peak boost as well. You can do all the calibrating in the world and not get inertia and load-bearing to read identical without seriously fudging some numbers, especially on high horsepower turbocharged cars.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:57 AM   #21
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GT500 could have been built as a dyno-queen. If that's the case then you can expect it to lose to numerous other cars with far less HP. I've seen 800hp Supras routinely disappoint in the 1/4 mile because they aren't built for speed, they're built for glorified dyno sheets.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:15 PM   #22
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Why would it hurt feelings? It's a 65k+ performance sedan.

If you want to hurt feelings, then buy a gutted, LS3 turbo Miata.
Because a gutted LS3 turbo Miata looks and sounds like a race car, not like the stock looking AMG's that are roaming around California and would still probably loose considering this AMG didn't loose to that C6Z with a twin turbo LS7 with methanol injection.

If the 660whp C63 still isn't enough then the owner can always take out his 900whp+ CLS he mentioned to combat all those pesky turbo Miata's dominating the texas invitational and other sanctioned roll race events.
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:08 PM   #23
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Different dyno manufacturers use different methodology to derive horsepower and torque. Especially with turbocharged cars you will see different results with water-brake, inertia, and electric dynos. Load will affect spool and thus impact charge air temperatures at peak boost as well. You can do all the calibrating in the world and not get inertia and load-bearing to read identical without seriously fudging some numbers, especially on high horsepower turbocharged cars.
I'm fully aware that a vehicle with a power adder that requires load to operate will read weird on different dynos. What I'm saying is that I take dyno numbers with a grain of salt these days. Too many people want either money shot numbers, manipulated numbers (claiming to do more with less) and those who want real world figures. Thanks to the first two the last one is quite rare as most operators have settings to suit the most popular bullshit numbers.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:52 PM   #24
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Because a gutted LS3 turbo Miata looks and sounds like a race car, not like the stock looking AMG's that are roaming around California and would still probably loose considering this AMG didn't loose to that C6Z with a twin turbo LS7 on meth.

If the 660whp C63 still isn't enough then the owner can always take out his 900whp+ CLS he mentioned to combat all those pesky turbo Miata's dominating the texas invitational and other sanctioned roll race events.
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Because a gutted LS3 turbo Miata looks and sounds like a race car, not like the stock looking AMG's that are roaming around California and would still probably loose considering this AMG didn't loose to that C6Z with a twin turbo LS7 with methanol injection.
Ok so the C63 "looks" stock. A 900awhp GTR can "look" stock too. I still don't understand how it will hurt feelings??


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If the 660whp C63 still isn't enough then the owner can always take out his 900whp+ CLS he mentioned to combat all those pesky turbo Miata's dominating the texas invitational and other sanctioned roll race events.
What does this have anything to do with my original question?
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