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Old 06-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #26
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13.3 on DRAG RADIALS. Show me all these 350zs and 370zs running high 12s stock, please. They are mid 13 second cars on average. I ran a 12.77@111 bone stock in 3400DA with stock 18" 235 series Pirelli all seasons and when I did that time there wasn't a single 350z that ran faster than a 13.8, and none of them were stock either.
The 350Z stock on average is a 14 second car. The fastest one may be capable of a high 13. But they are not as fast as this dude claims. The 370Z is faster, but they ain't faster than the SS. Maybe the Nismo can hang. But the rest are mid to high 13s.
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13.3 on DRAG RADIALS. Show me all these 350zs and 370zs running high 12s stock, please. They are mid 13 second cars on average. I ran a 12.77@111 bone stock in 3400DA with stock 18" 235 series Pirelli all seasons and when I did that time there wasn't a single 350z that ran faster than a 13.8, and none of them were stock either.
Nice, so you were running what my friend's srt8 charger did on a 75 shot and what a ZL1 was running here last night. They both trapped 111-112...

Hell my friend's full bolt on GTO with CAI/IM/full exhaust/tune did 13.0 @ 108 mph, my other friends pullied and tuned 04 Cobra with 420 whp did 13.0 @ 109 mph, last one I should mention is my buddy in his 2013 5.0 6-speed manual with intake/exhaust and tune(dyno'd 394 whp at KC2k13) did 13.1 @ 110 mph. No way in hell a stock 5th gen is or has come anywhere near that time at thunder valley stock.
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Nice, so you were running what my friend's srt8 charger did on a 75 shot and what a ZL1 was running here last night. They both trapped 111-112...

Hell my friend's full bolt on GTO with CAI/IM/full exhaust/tune did 13.0 @ 108 mph, my other friends pullied and tuned 04 Cobra with 420 whp did 13.0 @ 109 mph, last one I should mention is my buddy in his 2013 5.0 6-speed manual with intake/exhaust and tune(dyno'd 394 whp at KC2k13) did 13.1 @ 110 mph. No way in hell a stock 5th gen is or has come anywhere near that time at thunder valley stock.
if im not mistaken zl1s trap 115+ and im not one to argue about trap speed of an SS at Thunder valley but ill be sure to try!
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if im not mistaken zl1s trap 115+ and im not one to argue about trap speed of an SS at Thunder valley but ill be sure to try!
Yes ZL1's do trap 115+, but not in 90 degree 3000 DA like last night.

All of the cars run better when DA is 600-1000. My friend's intake/exhaust/tune srt8 traps 111 mph on motor in 600 DA... the same speed he traps on nitrous in 3000 DA. HUGE difference.
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I have been on their forums. If they're running high 12s stock then the SS is running mid 12s stock in the same conditions. Those cars are not impressive. And their performance numbers have been greatly inflated. For what they claim to be running in the quarter compared to what the SS claims...the SS sure does feel a hell of a lot more powerful in the drivers seat. I drove one of them after reading all the sooped up reports and I was underwhelmed. Not to mention that their mods have been shown to do nothing significant. Dude, they can't hang...
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My brother had a bolton A7 370z and I had a 2007 Mustang GT (Shelby GT but same thing) with boltons and 4.10 gears. Whooped his ass every time from a roll. That Shelby barely kept up with stock 5th gen Camaros but always lost in the end. Quite the anecdote I'll admit, but as good as anyone else's.
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This is a stupid discussion.

Everyone and their mother knows that on a tighter track the edge goes to the 370z due to its size and on a longer track (longest being a 1/4 mile track lol) the edge clearly goes to the camaro due to its torque.

1LE will favor the camaro on tighter tracks that would usually favor the 370z.

Mod discussions are retarded. What would be interesting would be to actually find a video of a nismo 370 and camaro 1le going head to head. 1 Track to favor the camaro and 1 Track to favor the 370z. That would be cool to watch.
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Can we please get rid of this troll who just posts hero runs of imports? Isn't there a vote him off the island option?
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Sorry but the 1LE would not lose on any track to a 370z
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In reference to the article originally posted, I think I agree with the result (even though I noticed the picture of the interior was not a 2013 model :P). With the 1LE package or even aftermarket upgrades to the SS, the Camaro really becomes a good handling car. I wish I could say the same about the stock suspension on my V6 lol.

At the end of the day, if you want a true handling car, the 370Z, and the Infiniti alternatives are gonna be the better choice IMO (As well as Bimmers and the famed S2000) But for how heavy our Camaro's are they certainly hold their own.

I just need to stop driving my mom's S2000, it makes my Camaro feel like a sloppy drunk haha!
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Can we please get rid of this troll who just posts hero runs of imports? Isn't there a vote him off the island option?
I have an American car too... thank you.

Something that people don't seem to wrap their minds around... A person whom is impartial to where a car is made, i.e. me. I don't care. I have an open mind, I'm not ignorant and only buy American and think all Japanese cars are crap or vice versa.

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That sounds like a bit of an exaggeration...
One would never guess. coming from him, huh?
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I have an American car too... thank you.

Something that people don't seem to wrap their minds around... A person whom is impartial to where a car is made, i.e. me. I don't care. I have an open mind, I'm not ignorant and only buy American and think all Japanese cars are crap or vice versa.

Why'd you buy that slow Camaro when you have the fastest car in the world?

A G35. G35 will put at least 3 lengths on that thing in the 1/4. Easily.

Musta just bought it. Diggin' the temp tags.
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13.3 on DRAG RADIALS. Show me all these 350zs and 370zs running high 12s stock, please. They are mid 13 second cars on average. I ran a 12.77@111 bone stock in 3400DA with stock 18" 235 series Pirelli all seasons and when I did that time there wasn't a single 350z that ran faster than a 13.8, and none of them were stock either.
So much B.S. in this thread.

Low 13s are hero passes for a 350z. There's on a few guy in the country that have run very low 13s in bone stock 350z.

Also - the comment about intake, exhaust, and tune and most 370z run low to mid 12s is total B.S. I would love to see this list of 350z or 370z running low 12s with intake, exhaust, and tune.

A Camaro SS - mod vs. mod - will easy beat a 350z or 370z with equal driver skill.
Heck, my L99 ran 12.16 @ 114 mph with 20" wheels, stock gears, stock conveter, no weight reduction, with just basic bolt ons and a tune. - How many Z's have done that?
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So much B.S. in this thread.

Low 13s are hero passes for a 350z. There's on a few guy in the country that have run very low 13s in bone stock 350z.

Also - the comment about intake, exhaust, and tune and most 370z run low to mid 12s is total B.S. I would love to see this list of 350z or 370z running low 12s with intake, exhaust, and tune.

A Camaro SS - mod vs. mod - will easy beat a 350z or 370z with equal driver skill.
Heck, my L99 ran 12.16 @ 114 mph with 20" wheels, stock gears, stock conveter, no weight reduction, with just basic bolt ons and a tune. - How many Z's have done that?
I had an older 2000 for about 2 weeks, but it was craigslist deal from hell.... constant title issues, blew motor, etc.

So I bought a replacement for that car, bone stock 1 owner ls1. Going to build this car myself...

I bought it because I am aware of the potential and the huge aftermarket support of the LSx.



Oh yeah.

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html


Bolt on 370z's. There would be more but there simply less 370Z's on the road then Mustangs or Camaros and owners are less likely to take them to the strip. Plus most don't even bother to post their numbers on the list.

1) jnaut ------------ 09 Base Sport 6MT 12.245 @ 111.81 mph 1.813 60ft street
2) Z eliminator ----- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.420 @ 114.37 mph 1.854 60ft DR
3) secondnissan ----- 10 Tour ----- 7AT 12.856 @ 106.25 mph 1.944 60ft street
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 12.860 @ 109.09 mph 1.921 60ft street
5) FPenvy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.899 @ 110.74 mph 1.950 60ft street
6) chuckd05 --------- 09 Base ----- 6MT 12.926 @ 108.97 mph 1.980 60ft ET street
7) Eighties Meta ---- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.933 @ 107.26 mph 1.920 60ft street
8) One_Quick_Z ------ 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.984 @ 108.87 mph 2.026 60ft street



Stock 370Z's
STOCK WITH STREET TIRES
1) jmarcel88 -------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 12.938 @ 108.31 mph 1.972 60ft
2) b1adesofcha0s ---- 09 Tour ----- 7AT 12.986 @ 107.46 mph 1.967 60ft
3) Speedy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.080 @ 105.14 mph 2.083 60ft
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.127 @ 105.27 mph 1.890 60ft


At thunder valley my friend did 12.6 @ 111 mph with full bolt ons(including 4.08 gears, rear end from 6mt swapped in for gear change) and 1.9 60 foot, it's a 7at. He's not on the list.

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I had an older 2000 for about 2 weeks, but it was craigslist deal from hell.... constant title issues, blew motor, etc.

So I bought a replacement for that car, bone stock 1 owner ls1. Going to build this car myself...

I bought it because I am aware of the potential and the huge aftermarket support of the LSx.



Oh yeah.

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html


Bolt on 370z's. There would be more but there simply less 370Z's on the road then Mustangs or Camaros and owners are less likely to take them to the strip. Plus most don't even bother to post their numbers on the list.

1) jnaut ------------ 09 Base Sport 6MT 12.245 @ 111.81 mph 1.813 60ft street
2) Z eliminator ----- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.420 @ 114.37 mph 1.854 60ft DR
3) secondnissan ----- 10 Tour ----- 7AT 12.856 @ 106.25 mph 1.944 60ft street
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 12.860 @ 109.09 mph 1.921 60ft street
5) FPenvy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.899 @ 110.74 mph 1.950 60ft street
6) chuckd05 --------- 09 Base ----- 6MT 12.926 @ 108.97 mph 1.980 60ft ET street
7) Eighties Meta ---- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.933 @ 107.26 mph 1.920 60ft street
8) One_Quick_Z ------ 09 Tour Sport 7AT 12.984 @ 108.87 mph 2.026 60ft street



Stock 370Z's
STOCK WITH STREET TIRES
1) jmarcel88 -------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 12.938 @ 108.31 mph 1.972 60ft
2) b1adesofcha0s ---- 09 Tour ----- 7AT 12.986 @ 107.46 mph 1.967 60ft
3) Speedy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.080 @ 105.14 mph 2.083 60ft
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.127 @ 105.27 mph 1.890 60ft


At thunder valley my friend did 12.6 @ 111 mph with full bolt ons(including 4.08 gears, rear end from 6mt swapped in for gear change) and 1.9 60 foot, it's a 7at. He's not on the list.
I'm still skeptical. You're telling me that a stock base 370Z on street tires ran a 12.93 yet a 370Z with a 50 shot ran only a 13.17...while other modified 370Zs ran high 13s and mid to hig 14s?? Yeah right.

And why are you posting their times over here anyway?? If I wanted to know what they run, I'd go over to their site and find out. This is a Camaro site. I don't see you posting over there about how awesome the Camaro is or the times we're running. Dude, if you're soo in love with those cars, why not just post that stuff on their site? I love Mustangs, but you don't see me over here praising them. And I don't go over to the Mustang sites praising Camaros. Nobody over here cares how awesome you think those cars are. And the few that might be fast does not mean that all of them are fast. Stock to stock, the SS will beat any of them. Equal modifications and the SS will STILL win. There is no argument.
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I'm still skeptical. You're telling me that a stock base 370Z on street tires ran a 12.93 yet a 370Z with a 50 shot ran only a 13.17...while other modified 370Zs ran high 13s and mid to hig 14s?? Yeah right.

And why are you posting their times over here anyway?? If I wanted to know what they run, I'd go over to their site and find out. This is a Camaro site. I don't see you posting over there about how awesome the Camaro is or the times we're running. Dude, if you're soo in love with those cars, why not just post that stuff on their site? I love Mustangs, but you don't see me over here praising them. And I don't go over to the Mustang sites praising Camaros. Nobody over here cares how awesome you think those cars are. And the few that might be fast does not mean that all of them are fast. Stock to stock, the SS will beat any of them. Equal modifications and the SS will STILL win. There is no argument.
I bought and now own a Camaro. I am on a Camaro forum. The thread is discussing the 370z and Camaro, I brought up some facts about the 370z.

I am not going to delve into all the variables at the track either(prep, driver, temp, DA, 60 foot, shift points, etc).

That is not a 370z "fast list", it's the times they got... Even if its joe blow who missed 3rd gear, he can still post his time.

I have already started modifying my ls1 and put on an OR/Y pipe and tune and I just bought it yesterday, stock LSx engines are generally turds... especially auto ones with GM torque management. With mods yes they are better.

I expect the worst at my track in this 100 degree weather. I will be happy if I get 13.9 or better seeing all the 5th gen SS's get mid-high 13's(my friend's SRT8 charger with intake/tune did 13.5 @ 105 mph as best run of the night not long ago). Come fall I hope for low 13's, maybe 12.9. 2.73's and 10 bolt being my primary weakness.

Last fall my friend did 13.2 @ 106 mph in his stock ls1 Camaro auto, so hope for 12.9 with minimal mods.

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I'm still skeptical. You're telling me that a stock base 370Z on street tires ran a 12.93 yet a 370Z with a 50 shot ran only a 13.17...while other modified 370Zs ran high 13s and mid to hig 14s?? Yeah right.
Here's the full list. The average of these times is 13.45, which is exactly in line with what every road test put the 370z at. The 370z is a mid 13 second car, per every road test, and per owners of 370z's.

And I know random youtube videos aren't good for much, but they're usually fun to watch. Here's a 370z running against some older Camaro's, a GTO, etc:



STOCK WITH STREET TIRES
1) jmarcel88 -------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 12.938 @ 108.31 mph 1.972 60ft
2) b1adesofcha0s ---- 09 Tour ----- 7AT 12.986 @ 107.46 mph 1.967 60ft - Yokohama Advan S4 245/45/18
3) Speedy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.080 @ 105.14 mph 2.083 60ft
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.127 @ 105.27 mph 1.890 60ft - oil cooler
5) NickTurnon ------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 13.292 @ 104.87 mph 2.057 60ft - 275 rear tires
6) Bored2Much ------- 10 Base ----- 7AT 13.341 @ 106.79 mph 2.124 60ft
7) One_Quick_Z ------ 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.366 @ 103.50 mph 2.018 60ft
8) Alstann ---------- 12 Base Sport 6MT 13.546 @ 103.97 mph 2.065 60ft
9) Tigger ----------- 12 Tour ----- 7AT 13.573 @ 105.14 mph 2.183 60ft
10) 03WhiteGT ------- 11 Base ----- 6MT 13.574 @ 104.54 mph 2.119 60ft
11) theART ---------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.581 @ 105.07 mph 2.216 60ft - Hankook V12 285/35/19
12) 1slow370 -------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.628 @ 100.78 mph 2.063 60ft
13) 98intrigue ------ 10 40th ----- 6MT 13.629 @ 103.74 mph 2.130 60ft
14) agrotech -------- 12 Tour Sport 7AT 13.678 @ 102.32 mph 2.133 60ft
15) PapaJFresh------- 11 Tour Sport 7AT 13.704 @ _97.95 mph 2.065 60ft
16) ZOLE ------------ 09 Tour ----- 6MT 13.818 @ 103.59 mph 2.214 60ft
17) Chriz ----------- 10 Base Sport 7AT 13.824 @ 99.350 mph 2.159 60ft

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Here's the full list. The average of these times is 13.45, which is exactly in line with what every road test put the 370z at. The 370z is a mid 13 second car, per every road test, and per owners of 370z's.

And I know random youtube videos aren't good for much, but they're usually fun to watch. Here's a 370z running against some older Camaro's, a GTO, etc:



STOCK WITH STREET TIRES
1) jmarcel88 -------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 12.938 @ 108.31 mph 1.972 60ft
2) b1adesofcha0s ---- 09 Tour ----- 7AT 12.986 @ 107.46 mph 1.967 60ft - Yokohama Advan S4 245/45/18
3) Speedy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.080 @ 105.14 mph 2.083 60ft
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.127 @ 105.27 mph 1.890 60ft - oil cooler
5) NickTurnon ------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 13.292 @ 104.87 mph 2.057 60ft - 275 rear tires
6) Bored2Much ------- 10 Base ----- 7AT 13.341 @ 106.79 mph 2.124 60ft
7) One_Quick_Z ------ 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.366 @ 103.50 mph 2.018 60ft
8) Alstann ---------- 12 Base Sport 6MT 13.546 @ 103.97 mph 2.065 60ft
9) Tigger ----------- 12 Tour ----- 7AT 13.573 @ 105.14 mph 2.183 60ft
10) 03WhiteGT ------- 11 Base ----- 6MT 13.574 @ 104.54 mph 2.119 60ft
11) theART ---------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.581 @ 105.07 mph 2.216 60ft - Hankook V12 285/35/19
12) 1slow370 -------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.628 @ 100.78 mph 2.063 60ft
13) 98intrigue ------ 10 40th ----- 6MT 13.629 @ 103.74 mph 2.130 60ft
14) agrotech -------- 12 Tour Sport 7AT 13.678 @ 102.32 mph 2.133 60ft
15) PapaJFresh------- 11 Tour Sport 7AT 13.704 @ _97.95 mph 2.065 60ft
16) ZOLE ------------ 09 Tour ----- 6MT 13.818 @ 103.59 mph 2.214 60ft
17) Chriz ----------- 10 Base Sport 7AT 13.824 @ 99.350 mph 2.159 60ft
Yes, I agree that they are on average a mid 13 car...the 370Z. Some cars may be exceptional since every car is not the exact same. And with a great driver on a great day in certain areas, yea they can do a hero run. But on average, they are not as fast as 08 is trying to make them out to be. And they are not faster than an SS whether it's stock to stock or with similar mods. In fact, the SS with similar mods would widen the gap, because the mods for 370Zs barely make any difference.
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My fiancee and I settled this debate last night. I've got a 370z Nismo and she has a SS 6MT. After nearly 3 years we finally went out and raced. It took so long because I wanted to get tires that were actually worth a damn. The stock tires on the 370z leave a lot to be desired. After we went to auto-x last night we then went and had a little straight line fun. We did 3 drag runs, switching cars on the third run, and one rolling run.

1st drag: I launched perfect, she didn't, by 110 there was a 1/2 a car between us

2nd drag: I launched good, she launched good, by 110 my front bumper was at her side mirror

3rd drag: We switched cars. Now mind you this was only the 2nd time for her driving my car and 1st time racing it. I got a good launch, she got a average one, by 110 the 370z bumper was at the Camaro's rear wheels.

Roll race: Started at 60mph and both started in 3rd. By 130 we were next to each other with my bumper (370z) at her front wheels.

Take home from what I saw. First off in the drag race the cars seem to be mostly even with neither car pulling on the other until about 80mph. At that time it seems the Camaro does start to pull. In all three races that is where the Camaro made it's biggest pull. Secondly, and most important, the cars are so close performance wise that it really comes down to the driver. On paper the edge goes to the Camaro and I'm sure a single driver driving both cars back to back will probably pull slightly better numbers with the Camaro. But on the street or at the track with two average joes behind the wheel it's going to come down to driver. No sense arguing who is faster, rather argue who is the better driver.

On the rolling race the cars seemed even until about 4th gear and the Camaro started edging out. After about 115mph the Z seemed to be in it's stride and stopped the Camaro from pulling. Basically telling me that as speeds increased areo started playing a bigger factor.

All that being said if we are talking about a 1LE I would whole heartily put the money on the Camaro simply because the more aggressive gearing will give it the advantage it needs to make a clear victory.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:35 PM   #48
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Here's the full list. The average of these times is 13.45, which is exactly in line with what every road test put the 370z at. The 370z is a mid 13 second car, per every road test, and per owners of 370z's.

And I know random youtube videos aren't good for much, but they're usually fun to watch. Here's a 370z running against some older Camaro's, a GTO, etc:



STOCK WITH STREET TIRES
1) jmarcel88 -------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 12.938 @ 108.31 mph 1.972 60ft
2) b1adesofcha0s ---- 09 Tour ----- 7AT 12.986 @ 107.46 mph 1.967 60ft - Yokohama Advan S4 245/45/18
3) Speedy ----------- 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.080 @ 105.14 mph 2.083 60ft
4) tranceformer ----- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.127 @ 105.27 mph 1.890 60ft - oil cooler
5) NickTurnon ------- 09 Base ----- 7AT 13.292 @ 104.87 mph 2.057 60ft - 275 rear tires
6) Bored2Much ------- 10 Base ----- 7AT 13.341 @ 106.79 mph 2.124 60ft
7) One_Quick_Z ------ 09 Tour Sport 7AT 13.366 @ 103.50 mph 2.018 60ft
8) Alstann ---------- 12 Base Sport 6MT 13.546 @ 103.97 mph 2.065 60ft
9) Tigger ----------- 12 Tour ----- 7AT 13.573 @ 105.14 mph 2.183 60ft
10) 03WhiteGT ------- 11 Base ----- 6MT 13.574 @ 104.54 mph 2.119 60ft
11) theART ---------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.581 @ 105.07 mph 2.216 60ft - Hankook V12 285/35/19
12) 1slow370 -------- 09 Base Sport 6MT 13.628 @ 100.78 mph 2.063 60ft
13) 98intrigue ------ 10 40th ----- 6MT 13.629 @ 103.74 mph 2.130 60ft
14) agrotech -------- 12 Tour Sport 7AT 13.678 @ 102.32 mph 2.133 60ft
15) PapaJFresh------- 11 Tour Sport 7AT 13.704 @ _97.95 mph 2.065 60ft
16) ZOLE ------------ 09 Tour ----- 6MT 13.818 @ 103.59 mph 2.214 60ft
17) Chriz ----------- 10 Base Sport 7AT 13.824 @ 99.350 mph 2.159 60ft

How the hell is an LS2 GTO going to lose to a G8 GT? It has like 40 more hp and weighs less. I doubt the tune does that much.
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How the hell is an LS2 GTO going to lose to a G8 GT? It has like 40 more hp and weighs less. I doubt the tune does that much.
<shrug> I think the G8 had headers. Not sure if the GTO was stick or auto, but if auto that ancient 4 spd doesn't help it.
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:29 AM   #50
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The LS2 in the GTO is overrated.

At local dyno day my friend's L99 with intake and programmer did 357 whp.

A stock LS2 manual did 323 whp, and another ls2 with headers/intake/tune did 366 whp.


LS2's really make more around 370 at the crank stock, an auto ls2 would have dyno'd significantly lower then those 6-speeds.


GTO's weigh about 3600 lbs. G8 GT's weigh around 3900 lbs.... The GTO has a 200 lb passenger(just a guess) and essentially eliminates the weight difference. From my experience close races like that are determined by whichever car has a passenger(when there's just one for the 2 cars).


The LS1 is a better more reliable overall package then the ls2 when it comes to heads/cams... It's stronger and the best years for the LS1. My friend's has 460 whp and traps 119 mph and pulls cars that trap 120+ in real life, his is the ls1.
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