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Old 07-07-2013, 10:08 PM   #43
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You mistook my 2015 mustang comment.

I would think the mustang numbers would be down, not up. With how much hype there is for the 15's.

Seems very uptight in this thread.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:31 PM   #44
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Makes sense. The Camaro is losing some steam. The Challenger is probly grabbing a few Camaro sales and the Mustang is getting better and better. It's a good car with excellent weight and some great packages. I think the new Mustang will be a huge success.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:59 PM   #45
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If the Challenger continues at the rate that it's going, it will catch up to Camaro sales at some point early next year if you go by the Trending chart.
It's a good car for people who buy for looks. The power to weight ratio is the worst in it's class...it's so bad there's probably a dozen other current stock production cars that could beat it off the line. A 475hp model costs $44k(from the Dodge website). That's robbery in this generation.

I think a black Chally with red stripes down the sides looks completely awesome...but if I owned one I'd pray nobody challenged me to a race unless I stripped it to the bone and threw about $10k worth of performance mods into it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:53 PM   #46
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You mistook my 2015 mustang comment.

I would think the mustang numbers would be down, not up. With how much hype there is for the 15's.

Seems very uptight in this thread.
If you could read, you would have noticed that Mustang numbers are down and not up........
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:54 PM   #47
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It's a good car for people who buy for looks. The power to weight ratio is the worst in it's class...it's so bad there's probably a dozen other current stock production cars that could beat it off the line. A 475hp model costs $44k(from the Dodge website). That's robbery in this generation.

I think a black Chally with red stripes down the sides looks completely awesome...but if I owned one I'd pray nobody challenged me to a race unless I stripped it to the bone and threw about $10k worth of performance mods into it.
The SRT-8 Challenger is under rated and $44,000 for 470BHP isn't that bad of a deal, it is a good deal cheaper then a GT500 or a ZL1 Camaro.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:15 AM   #48
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If you could read, you would have noticed that Mustang numbers are down and not up........
Mustang numbers kicked the Camaro's ass. Perhaps you should re-read what I had posted in both replies.

I guess owning a 2004 grand prix leaves only the sales threads for you to troll...
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:52 AM   #49
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Mustang numbers kicked the Camaro's ass. Perhaps you should re-read what I had posted in both replies.

I guess owning a 2004 grand prix leaves only the sales threads for you to troll...
"I would think the mustang numbers would be down, not up. With how much hype there is for the 15's"

That is a complete thought..... Mustang numbers were down not up as you stated, which was wrong....

For those who can read, the Mustang out sold the Camaro last month that is clearly stated.
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You missed "both" replies. As this is like a conversation, there is no need to repeat myself at each reply. Stick to this section of the site, it's where you belong.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:58 AM   #51
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I think it is funny that just a few years ago some were claiming this segment to be a dead segment. All we have seen is steady sales increase for this market segment and really no sign that it will stop in the near future. Chevy and Dodge getting back into this segment has really ignited the love for the pony cars (muscle car in the case of the Dodge).

Can't you read? Sales are down.

Ha ha ha
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:18 AM   #52
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Maybe mustang owners want THIS generation before it moves on to a fusion/evos styled "eurostang", hence the surge in sales.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:39 AM   #53
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I the saw on another article that challenger was used in the new fast and furious movie? I didn't see the movie, but maybe that has something to do with the big jump in sales, as dumb as it sounds?
No dumber than the Camaro being in those horrible Transformer movies.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:43 AM   #54
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either way, its not good for the Camaro..Year to year sales are down and YTD sales as with mon/month. I really doubt that people are waiting for the '14 refresh to hit the streets!!
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Ford always has a big bump in the middle of every year, but lags overall. I've heard they pull some tricks with the numbers having to do with fleet sales or something. Expect them to drop again like every year. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the 2014 Camaro facelift vs. the 2015 Mustang redesign. We may see some back and forth for the next several years. Should be good for customers of both brands.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:09 PM   #56
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The June returns throw me off for this reason, Chevy and Camaro had record pace car and parade car
exposure at Indy and every racing event I watched. The parade of Indy drivers was all matching camaro convertibles,white with dual blue stripes (66 Shelby GT350 dress). Chevy put more money in racing promotions in the second quarter of 2013 than any sponsor I can recall. Chevy engines and teams ran well at Indy and NASCAR all May and June. Where is the pay-off? Mustang, in this environment, leads by 2000 units in a 30 day month. Makes no sense relative to "advertising pays." Something else is going on other than rebates. I have priced a new GT and rebate or no they want $9K
more than I paid for the 07GT. That ain't giving them away. That 07 GT reduced my cash on hand a fair bit.
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